Actually we have been dealing with it since Nov., We know China had the virus in Nov. From the whistle blower. This is main stream media news, if you look the number of influenza like case started spiking in Nov.
I really don't understand the stupidity in that people think they only started getting it when they started to test for it, especially when the same people will also complain about the lack of testing in the early stages, you know when Trump was dismissing it in January.
And no, the RO factor about 2.25.
Yes you need 70% to kill it, but once you reach 50% the fight gets a lot easier because it makes it very hard for the virus to survive long term.
I understand that the idea is to slow the spread, but majority of healthy young adults and kids are not in danger of it, and the realisticallyh industry won't be overrun society can continue to function while those demographics at risk should remain in lock down until this thing blows over.
The idea is were headed for a 15 year depression which could have a far greater negative impact on society than this pandemic.
when i say the thing is only getting started i don't mean that the virus entered US territory now. i mean the US is at the beginning of the exponential curve.
WHO has estimated R to be between 2 and 2.5, and several other
sources have had it at 3. but i agree that it really doesn't matter at all to the argument that i'm trying to make here. 2 still means exponential growth and it's horrifying.
you seem to think that out of the 50%, very few people will require hospitalisation. are you paying any attention to what's going on in NY? do you understand what's going on in italy and spain? the two worst hot spots in europe are in countries in total lockdown, and it took weeks for italy to finally somewhat slow down the progress. not stop it, just slow it down.
even if every number i cite here is wrong, if i'm off by a multiplier of 100, you're still seeing reports from actual hospitals saying they're at maximum capacity and can't handle any new patients. you're seeing this right now, when numbers aren't showing any indication whatsoever of slowing down. do you understand what i'm saying? forget the numbers and predictions i'm citing. just look at the current state.
do you feel like the country can just forget about having any healthcare available for a few months? because with an overrun system, that's what happens. cancer treatment, appendixes, concussions, car crashes, fires... people that need any kind of medical attention are fucked because there simply aren't enough people in any hospital to help them out. even if we go the selfish asshole route and say fuck it, only the weak will die from this, all of us healthy young bucks don't give a flying fuck about these feeble inferiors... even if we do that, are you truly willing to gamble your life on this, knowing that whatever bad thing happens to you or your loved ones in the next couple of months, no doctors are available to help you out?
people like you keep saying we need to save the economy because the consequences of staying in lockdown will be worse in the long run. you don't understand than an unchecked pandemic causing literal millions of deaths will also fuck up the economy. not slow it down, drive it to the fucking ground. so your current choice isn't death or immense economical damage. the damage is already off the table and is happening regardless.