Media Jiri Prochazka, says he would never quit like Tom Aspinall…”this is the true sport of man… FIGHT UNTIL THE END.”

[Pancake Sprawl]

Jiri already had his eye gouged, ref. almost called it, Jiri kept saying he’s fine, fought compromised in one eye and KOed hill dead.

Every announcer said no way Jiri will let the ref call it, even if he’s blind. Can’t say that about Tommy boy.

i guess you didn't read what i said. i said watch him get gouged and then ktfo. i guarantee you he changes his tune if that happens. it doesn't matter what happened before that.

 

[koa pomaikai]

i guess you didn't read what i said. i said watch him get gouged and then ktfo. i guarantee you he changes his tune if that happens. it doesn't matter what happened before that.

Happened to plenty of people, no one ever gave up on the stool as a champion.

KTFO or not, not one ever quit on the stool due to an eye poke as champion and contrary to the doctor too lol.

Name me one fighter that quit as champion because of an eye poke, a self voluntary quit against the opinion of the doctor.

Aspinall setting records, first champion to quit on the stool due to eye poke, after the hundreds of eye pokes that have happened.

Aspinall out here setting records. Unprecedented records.

 

[MRT]

Jiri never smack talks, so this coming from him is strong. I think he thinks Tom lacks honor, I can’t see any other reason he’d step out and make this comment.



“I will play the game for the doctor, no way to stop the fight because of an eye poke,” Prochazka said post-fight. “I’ve got one more eye. This is the true sport of man.

“Fighting with eyes, no eyes, no eyes, doesn’t matter,” Prochazka explained. “Fight until the end.”

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Let’s see if I get dubbed again for literally quoting Jiri’s take on this.

There should be nothing wrong with quoting a fighter...

As for what he is saying, I would argue that one position does not need to invalidate another.

If we want to respect Jiri more for choosing to take such a perspective for himself, that is fine...but it does not necessarily follow that another fighter deserves disrespect for not adopting that same position.

 

[knock_you_out]

It was Gane who has no honor and executed a foul move. Accident, my ass. He needs to keep his fucking hands closed.

 

[koa pomaikai]

There should be nothing wrong with quoting a fighter...

As for what he is saying, I would argue that one position does not need to invalidate another.

If we want to respect Jiri more for choosing to take such a perspective for himself, that is fine...but it does not necessarily follow that another fighter deserves disrespect for not adopting that same position.

If Aspinall strives to be great, he has to be compared to those who are great.

I cannot fathom any of the great fighters that I’m a fan refusing to leave the stool because of an eye poke, even a really bad one.

I can’t think of one, can you? Isn’t Aspinall the first champion that couldn’t answer the bell via eye poke that wasn’t forced upon them by the doctor?

 

[egk]

I think if Aspinall got scared of that poke that much that he feared going blind, he’s in the wrong sport.

I was wondering about that. He's already talked about retiring again when he said he'd never do it like Bisping. He did the same thing after he injured his knee against Blaydes. I believe he talked retirement because of the lack of money in the sport too. If you're contemplating retiring that much, MMA probably is the wrong sport to be in. The whole idea going into a fight is to hurt someone.
Jiri is definitely a different kind of guy.

 

[koa pomaikai]

I was wondering about that. He's already talked about retiring again when he said he'd never do it like Bisping. He did the same thing after he injured his knee against Blaydes. I believe he talked retirement because of the lack of money in the sport too. If you're contemplating retiring that much, MMA probably is the wrong sport to be in. The whole idea going into a fight is to hurt someone.
Jiri is definitely a different kind of guy.

I think Jiri has the mindset of all great champions.

I was in utter shock when Aspinall refused to come out after the eye poke, yes it was a bad eye poke… but I’ve just never seen a champion voluntarily say they can’t continue against the opinion of the doctor.

Like 15 years of watching fights, never saw a champion quit on the stool over an eye poke. I did rage at Aspinall a little lol.

 

[Khaosan]

Nice yellow card.

 

[Ibm]

I beleive him.

 

[koa pomaikai]

I beleive him.

I don’t think a single mma fan would ever think Jiri would quit on the stool over an eye poke.

Jiri could be blind and he’d be there guessing how many fingers the ref was holding up.

 

[MRT]

If Aspinall strives to be great, he has to be compared to those who are great.

I cannot fathom any of the great fighters that I’m a fan refusing to leave the stool because of an eye poke, even a really bad one.

I can’t think of one, can you? Isn’t Aspinall the first champion that couldn’t answer the bell via eye poke that wasn’t forced upon them by the doctor?

Title defenses go a long way towards defining greatness. Every GOAT candidate has a slew of defenses.

Do you think anyone (especially among the many people shitting on Tom over the past few days) would be praising his toughness or saying 'wow, he is just like Jiri...what a warrior mindset', if he went back out there and lost the fight, or worse, got KTFO in the process?

LOL - hell no. There would be a whole lot of 'overrated', 'hype train derailed', etc. talk...and probably a 20-page 'shoop dat KO'd Tom' thread.

 

[koa pomaikai]

Title defenses go a long way towards defining greatness. Every GOAT candidate has a slew of defenses.

Do you think anyone (especially among the many people shitting on Tom over the past few days) would be praising his toughness or saying 'wow, he is just like Jiri...what a warrior mindset', if he went back out there and lost the fight, or worse, got KTFO in the process?

LOL - hell no. There would be a whole lot of 'overrated', 'hype train derailed', etc. talk...and probably a 20-page 'shoop dat KO'd Tom' thread.

If he was truly great, he’d have fought on through the eye poke and risked it for the win.

Yes, he can get KTFO, but all great fighters have gone on after fouls and won or lose.

If Aspinall wants to be Heavyweight GOAT, he’d need to have fought Cyril and beat him despite being fouled. If he couldn’t, he gets hate either way.

If he wanted admiration, that comes with the risk of being shit on if you lose. He chose the quit route, which is just being shit on without the chance of glory.

The fact that the betting line was shifting to Gane and the fact that Gane goes 5 rounds all the time while Aspinall usually goes 2 mins, all adds to the narrative that he was going to lose foul or not. He’s going to come out looking like a loser if he can’t beat Gane, only way was to win.

And well, if he couldn’t win after being poked, he’s overhyped since he was like a -400 favorite to Gane.

 

[fries in the bag]

jiri is preparing for the inevitable move to heavyweight.
he's planting the seeds for an aspinall fight in 3 years.

he knows with pereira retiring, jones retiring, and the heavyweight division in shambles,
it's the weakest time in history to become heavyweight champion.

almeida is a pacifist, volkov can't defend takedowns, curtis blaydes is curtis,
tai tuivasa is fat....

 

[MRT]

If he was truly great, he’d have fought on through the eye poke and risked it for the win.

Yes, he can get KTFO, but all great fighters have gone on after fouls and won or lose.

If Aspinall wants to be Heavyweight GOAT, he’d need to have fought Cyril and beat him despite being fouled. If he couldn’t, he gets hate either way.

If he wanted admiration, that comes with the risk of being shit on if you lose. He chose the quit route, which is just being shit on without the chance of glory.

The 'if he was truly great' stuff sounds nice...but isn't it better to have the belt than not, especially if he is going to get hate either way?

Thinking about it from that perspective...is it really even controversial as to whether or not Tom did the right thing for himself?

Whether someone believes he truly could not see and it was right for the fight to be called off....or he could not see, or could not see well, but should have toughed it out...or he was playing it up and found his way out of the fight. Regardless of where you fall on that spectrum, Tom will be the defending HW champ next time he steps in the cage.

It seems crazy to argue to that he should have 'toughed it out', win or lose.

 

[koa pomaikai]

The 'if he was truly great' stuff sounds nice...but isn't it better to have the belt than not, especially if he is going to get hate either way?

Thinking about it from that perspective...is it really even controversial as to whether or not Tom did the right thing for himself?

Whether someone believes he truly could not see and it was right for the fight to be called off....or he could not see, or could not see well, but should have toughed it out...or he was playing it up and found his way out of the fight. Regardless of where you fall on that spectrum, Tom will be the defending HW champ next time he steps in the cage.

It seems crazy to argue to that he should have 'toughed it out', win or lose.

No one is saying it wasn’t the smart thing to do.

The smart thing to do though isn’t always the most honorable thing.

I’ve said it again and again, it was smart to quit, but it’s also cowardly. It can be smart to dodge the vietnam draft but it can also be dishonorable and unpatriotic.

Tom did what was best for him, and people are rightfully shitting on him for it.

 

[clutchCAT420]

War JIRI!!
Fakespinall should just go to wwe. Leave the fights for the real fighters

 

[RoyJonesJr]

Oh really, Chael eh?

he's checked out of fights multiple times

ya and he even admits that he's checked out before, and says based on experience Tom checked out


Which is the crazy party

 

[TheCryingElite]

To the Tom fans and people who are generally defending him; you guys are allowing yourself to be trolled a little too easily.
I’m fairly certain even the devoted trolls, know that Tom was within his rights to refuse to fight with a disadvantage and I’m sure most would have made the same decision.
But we’re also watching a violent entertainment product with two giant men about to hurt each other in order to see who becomes the “Baddest Man on the Planet”
I think people are being disingenuous thinking that no one should question Tom’s heart in his decision. Especially considering we have had numerous examples of fighters fighting through the same thing or even worse.

Gane is ultimately to blame for the foul even happening. I don’t think it was intentional but given his history, he probably should be scrutinized more so than other fighters. Like he should be given the warning in the back and the first time he commits a foul(unless it’s shown to ultimately be accidental) a point should be taken immediately. It would probably make him more wary of how he’s using his weapons. It would be in the same vein as allowing historically tough fighters extra time to fight back if they’re hurt in a fight.

 

[TheMaster]

Jiri never smack talks, so this coming from him is strong. I think he thinks Tom lacks honor, I can’t see any other reason he’d step out and make this comment.



“I will play the game for the doctor, no way to stop the fight because of an eye poke,” Prochazka said post-fight. “I’ve got one more eye. This is the true sport of man.

“Fighting with eyes, no eyes, no eyes, doesn’t matter,” Prochazka explained. “Fight until the end.”

Jiri Prochazka gives damning assessment of Tom Aspinall eye poke controversy at UFC 321

They don't make 'em like Jiri Prochazka often... 😅

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Jiri Prochazka becomes the latest to question Tom Aspinall after eye pokes led to UFC 321 no contest | BJPenn.com

Former UFC light heavyweight champion Jiri Prochazka would've continued fighting if he was in Tom Aspinall's position at UFC 321.

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Let’s see if I get dubbed again for literally quoting Jiri’s take on this.

I guess Tom really didn't think there would be so much backlash from fighters and fans, and he would be considered a pussy for taking the way out in his first Title fight that thousands had payed to see and where he was getting beat up before he got accidently poked.

Bisping fought the last part of his career with one eye....

Tom is perhaps more mentally fragile in comparison.

 

[Gregoire1]

Two opposites. Jiri is a fighter, and this scarecrow is a quitter.