Crime Jeffrey Epstein Dead

[dissectingaorticaneurysm]

one hell of a drop, especially since he cannot stand on the top bunk and would have to roll off of it. Unpredictable how one could land.

https://superstarfloraluk.com/2386324-New-York-MCC-Cell.html

Those are typical jail cells and hanging/strangulation is the most common suicide method for inmates. Jails also have higher suicide rates than prisons despite being more restrictive.

 

[trident]

I find it more than a little unlikely that a person killed and then rigged up his dead body to hang from the bunk. Anybody thought of that yet, or are we still full derp mode because he had a common hanging injury?

You find unlikely that if someone did indeed strangle him they would then stage it to look like a suicide? You find that unlikely? lmao

 

[HereticBD]

I find it more than a little unlikely that a person killed and then rigged up his dead body to hang from the bunk.

Why? It wouldn't take long at all. You've already murdered the man. What's a few extra minutes of work to make it look like a suicide? It's not like murderers haven't done that ever before.

Terrible logic, Failty.

 

[Ornife]

Truly hope this is intentional misinformation and not reality.

 

[Teppodama]

Deep State Dark Senate orders CIA to cultivate Epstein as an operative to gather blackmail material on American and Ally politicians, captains of industry, entertainment luminaries and tech hierophants. This material could then be used to keep these people in line should the need arise and one decide to step off the reservation or support for a particular action or policy needed.

 

[Deleted member 539235]

obviously after you murder someone you drop one of your leather gloves like the white guy in don't be a menace

c'mon guiz

 

[Scerpi]

well, if you look at the pictures of a standard MCC cell I posted above. You can easily see how he could roll off the top bunk, then tuck and transition into an aerial summersault, stopping halfway through, and landing directly on the top of the head to break the neck.

Pretty standard maneuver for math teachers, investing wizards, and experts at manipulation who are smarter than the average prisoner.

 

[method115]

I find it more than a little unlikely that a person killed and then rigged up his dead body to hang from the bunk. Anybody thought of that yet, or are we still full derp mode because he had a common hanging injury?

You mean because he had an injury more commonly associated with homicidal strangulation than suicidal hanging correct?

"Jonathan L Arden, president of the National Association of Medical Examiners, said a hyoid can be broken in many circumstances but is more commonly associated with homicidal strangulation than suicidal hanging"

 

[Hollywood Jack]

I know some of you don't like Tim Pool, and I increasingly don't like him too much these days either, but he did a good video about Epstein's autopsy and how it indicates strangulation rather than hanging, especially in the manner in which he is alleged to have hanged himself. Leaning forward with a sheet wrapped around your neck is likely to make you pass out and then die from a blood choke, but not cause the multiple neck breaks that Epstein incurred.

He also goes over an interview with former UFC fighter Igor Zinoviev (best known for having a promising MMA career ended after being slammed on his neck by Frank Shamrock) who was a bodyguard and driver for Epstein. Zinoviev previously indicated (in an off the record conversation apparently) to a reporter that Epstein regularly got tipped off by police in Palm Beach whenever they planned to search his mansion. Zinoviev was scared to go on the record, though. I bet he's got some stories to tell...



http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/jeffrey-epsteins-bodyguard-igor-zinoviev-on-his-old-boss.html

 

[trident]

You mean because he had an injury more commonly associated with homicidal strangulation than suicidal hanging correct?

"Jonathan L Arden, president of the National Association of Medical Examiners, said a hyoid can be broken in many circumstances but is more commonly associated with homicidal strangulation than suicidal hanging"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-hyoid-bone-broken-neck/amp/

Good article here. Numbers are kind of all over the place, but if we use Occams Razor here the most likely scenario is he was strangled.

 

[all caps]

Lol wtf. Is this plane still in his estate or the one he sold?

That's a great question and I have no idea. Here is the link to the flight tracker page though.
https://flight-data.adsbexchange.com/activity?inputSelect=icao&icao=A0547F

 

[Scerpi]

I find it more than a little unlikely that a person killed and then rigged up his dead body to hang from the bunk. Anybody thought of that yet, or are we still full derp mode because he had a common hanging injury?

lol... I think you outa just let this one go. You're likely right, but the comedy of errors and whirlwind of controversy surrounding this shitstorm is too good to not make fun of it and make outlandish CT's.

The fucking truth is just as fucked up as any theory that can be thrown out there. And FYI - Politicians on both sides of the isle probably secretly thanked their lucky stars when they heard he'd died in the middle of the night... regardless of the circumstances.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Ok, so the official story is he rolled out of the top bed, fell a couple feet, without his legs taking the impact of the very short fall, which broke his neck? Given he is like 6ft or so, and the bed is like 7ft at most, the slack he must have left was like 1 ft, 2 at the most. And again, he fell 1-2 feet, without his legs taking the impact of the floor, and he broke his neck in multiple places

<{dayum}>

 

[Fawlty]

lol... I think you outa just let this one go. You're likely right, but the comedy of errors and whirlwind of controversy surrounding this shitstorm is too good to not make fun of it and make outlandish CT's.

The fucking truth is just as fucked up as any theory that can be thrown out there. And FYI - Politicians on both sides of the isle probably secretly thanked their lucky stars when they heard he'd died in the middle of the night... regardless of the circumstances.

If he was posthumously hanged after being strangled, there would be evidence of that. Like two sets of markings on the neck from the same incident, for starters.

Keep dreaming, boys. I'll be here to catch you when you fall.

 

[all caps]

Ok, so the official story is he rolled out of the top bed, fell a couple feet, without his legs taking the impact of the very short fall, which broke his neck? Given he is like 6ft or so, and the bed is like 7ft at most, the slack he must have left was like 1 ft, 2 at the most. And again, he fell 1-2 feet, without his legs taking the impact of the floor, and he broke his neck.

<{dayum}>

Hes a very intelligent guy (with an IQ in the brilliance range) so obviously he had calculated the perfect angle to fall, at the perfect speed and made sure his legs were tucked perpendicular to the velocity of his Oppenheimer. You objectively want to ignore these facts and are using bad faith logic.

 

[dirtypablo]

I find it more than a little unlikely that a person killed and then rigged up his dead body to hang from the bunk. Anybody thought of that yet, or are we still full derp mode because he had a common hanging injury?

If a person had killed him and wanted it to look like a suicide, what else would they do? Leave him on the floor with nothing around his neck? Ohh ya he killed himself then took the noose off?! Obviously that doesn't mean that's what happened, but if you're going to give any thought to it being some conspiracy, that's not at all unlikely - in fact highly probable.

And, do we know 100% how he was found? I thought the guards that found him had gotten lawyers and weren't talking.

 

[Fawlty]

If a person had killed him and wanted it to look like a suicide, what else would they do? Leave him on the floor with nothing around his neck? Ohh ya he killed himself then took the noose off?! Obviously that doesn't mean that's what happened, but if you're going to give any thought to it being some conspiracy, that's not at all unlikely - in fact highly probable.

And, do we know 100% how he was found? I thought the guards that found him had gotten lawyers and weren't talking.

Two sets of marks. Let it sink in. They strangle him, and then hang him...can't hide that.

 

[dirtypablo]

Two sets of marks. Let it sink in. They strangle him, and then hang him...

Wow, totally blew my mind.

Or not. They strangle him, then tie him up with a sheet around his neck. That wouldn't necessarily produce a second, distinct mark. And what do you know about the marks found? Is there a clear single mark on his neck? Where did you get that info?

 

[trident]

Hes a very intelligent guy (with an IQ in the brilliance range) so obviously he had calculated the perfect angle to fall, at the perfect speed and made sure his legs were tucked perpendicular to the velocity of his Oppenheimer. You objectively want to ignore these facts and are using bad faith logic.

Epsteins last request: a logarithm calculator

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Ok, so the official story is he rolled out of the top bed, fell a couple feet, without his legs taking the impact of the very short fall, which broke his neck? Given he is like 6ft or so, and the bed is like 7ft at most, the slack he must have left was like 1 ft, 2 at the most. And again, he fell 1-2 feet, without his legs taking the impact of the floor, and he broke his neck.

<{dayum}>

Epstein, while slightly elderly, was a well built, in shape muscular guy. He worked out a lot with Igor Zinoviev and was known to be a fitness fanatic to this day. It's unlikely a guy built like that would suffer neck breaks from such minimal impact. Dude had a thick, muscular neck and overall build.