Crime Jeffrey Epstein Dead

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[JonesBones]

I'll take that as halfway to your prior admission and apology for being wrong. I will await the full admission.

And I get it.. YOu are severely butt hurt as I exposed you in your stock thread when you admitted you had shorted a bunch of stocks and lost money but then later pretended in later threads you made lots of money betting long.

Its a common thing keyboard stock traders do on forums which is whatever way the result goes, claiming they got it right.

The problem is people can, as I did, look up your prior post history and expose you.

Sorry it made you mad then when I exposed it. Sorry you drag that butt hurt around now looking for things to try and gin up to attack me for and you end up being wrong over and over. It must suck being cornered itno dick tucking and apologizing once again. You need to stop it.

You are both nutty and creepy.

What stock did I short and all this nonsense? lol. You know it is possible to be long at one point and short in another? Or lose some money but make more? I don't recall you exposing shit. Could you point it out? I rarely short anything, much less "a bunch of stocks'

 

[Sketch]

Yeah, how many times you gonna ask that? You got a point?

Why is that your av? That guy is a literal monster.

 

[JonesBones]

Why is that your av? That guy is a literal monster.

To annoy leftists and get the kind of outrage I am getting now. lol. Oddly enough, only stupid conservatives have taken the bait.

 

[Fawlty]

Over extremely high profile inmates, with a trial coming up? I'm gonna disagree with you there. Everyone is acting like Epstein was your everyday inmate, and mistakes happen. It's just not true with a guy like Epstein. He would be watched like a hawk, especially after an attempted suicide.

Why was a suicidal man taken off suicide watch mere hours before his death? Why was protocol not followed at the time of his death? Why was his cell mate moved, and Epstein left completely alone? Where is the camera footage?

One mistake could be coincidence. When conveniently timed coincidences start piling up, it becomes suspicious.

I addressed an important part of this, and here you've pretend it never happened.

If the prison is generally negligent, with shitty employees and doesn't stick to procedures as they should, it's not "convenient" but rather the status quo. The chance of that being the case is of course a lot higher than the chance of a conspiracy. If you're saying that he would be watched like a hawk (despite not being on suicide watch), and that you can bank on that, you're off your tree.

Why does "mere hours" matter at all? Sounds like you're fishing. It happened overnight, which is a very "convenient" time to kill yourself (especially if the guards are shit).

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Good chance that not every girl they banged was underage.
Like he couldve had girls that were 20s-30s that people would have sex with, and the younger girl thing was Epsteins thing.
Its not like every where the guy went their was an underage girl in the closet.

Except, there’s literally proof

There's certainly proof that Epstein himself had sex with dozens, if not hundreds of underage girls. And there are allegations against others in his circle, mainly coming from Virginia Roberts Giuffre. But Epstein was a smart guy who knew how to ingratiate himself to these people and there's proof that some of the women he had sex with were not underage and he probably procured some legal age pussy for friends. He and Trump partied with adult women like NFL cheerleaders and 28 models at a private party thrown for the two of them at Mar a Lago. Greg Fitzsimmons also claimed on Adam Carolla's podcast that a friend of his told him about how he went to Epstein's private island (which he called Fuck Island) and Trump was there with Melania and they were swinging with other consenting adults. So Epstein probably knew how to compartmentalize and kept different worlds apart, so to speak.

 

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[DIDM]

There's certainly proof that Epstein himself had sex with dozens, if not hundreds of underage girls. And there are allegations against others in his circle, mainly coming from Virginia Roberts Giuffre. But Epstein was a smart guy who knew how to ingratiate himself to these people and there's proof that some of the women he had sex with were not underage and he probably procured some legal age pussy for friends. He and Trump partied with adult women like NFL cheerleaders and 28 models at a private party thrown for the two of them at Mar a Lago. Greg Fitzsimmons also claimed on Adam Carolla's podcast that a friend of his told him about how he went to Epstein's private island (which he called Fuck Island) and Trump was there with Melania and they were swinging with other consenting adults. So Epstein probably knew how to compartmentalize and kept different worlds apart, so to speak.

There’s sworn testimony that Prince Andrew had sex with underage girls, with paper trails of proof, including photos and flight logs

 

[Daverisimo]

Whether it was suicide or murder, we can all be certain that Epstein was killed by a wealthy phile.

 

[MikeMcMann]

You do not know what you are talking about.

Here it is in simpler language for you:

Possibility A: The suicidal man committed suicide.

Possibility B: The suicidal man committed suicide and also, there was a conspiracy by other people to make it easier for him.

Possibility A is preferable until evidence establishes the additional contingencies as factual or highly probable.

I think the better way to describe the possibilities are:

- Gross Negligence - this would be a mistake, if indeed it is proved they took him out of the suicide extra security area, based on a belief that he would not be a suicide risk and therefore the common extra measures taken were not done.

- Purposeful negligence - this is often known as Prison Justice and is especially applicable to philes. It is where inmates or others, with or without direct guard help are allowed a path to 'get at' the inmate to institute justice OR, where decisions are made that leave open the opportunity for the prisoner to take his own life (ex. leaving sheets or sharp items accessible to someone suicidal)


I think those options cover all possibilities here.

 

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[Fedorable]

I think the better way to describe the possibilities are:

- Gross Negligence - this would be a mistake, if indeed it is proved they took him out of the suicide extra security area, based on a belief that he would not be a suicide risk and therefore the common extra measures taken were not done.

- Purposeful negligence - this is often known as Prison Justice and is especially applicable to philes. It is where inmates or others, with or without direct guard help are allowed a path to 'get at' the inmate to institute justice OR, where decisions are made that leave open the opportunity for the prisoner to take his own life (ex. leaving sheets or sharp items accessible to someone suicidal)


I think those options cover all possibilities here.

Whether it was suicide or murder, we can all be certain that Epstein was killed by a wealthy phile.

Spoiler

Freddy was a .

 

[Lubaolong]

Over extremely high profile inmates, with a trial coming up? I'm gonna disagree with you there. Everyone is acting like Epstein was your everyday inmate, and mistakes happen. It's just not true with a guy like Epstein. He would be watched like a hawk, especially after an attempted suicide.

There are tons of high profile people in every big prison. The people working at most of these places are the worst of the worst, lazy and incompetent. I've been to a few, interviewed at a few, and know several doctors who work at these places. Most of these places have trouble recruiting workers and are very understaffed. People are forced to work double shifts or more. Staff are sometimes sleeping at the prison. It's not impossible that they had bad feelings about Epstein or were willfully negligent, but it seems more likely that they were just super negligent because they suck. It wouldn't be anything new.

 

[ShadowRun]

Love the CT angle but the guy had nothing to live for im sure he killed himself and if he was gonna give up intel he already would of the powerful ppl would of made him dead the first day. People have embedded cinematic thinking too many movies and TV

 

[ShadowRun]

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/stock-market-chat-v3-tesla-crashes.3963883/page-42

It is right there buddy. lol. What you said never happened. You said I was burned on weed. I said no. You just claimed that you went back in that thread and showed how I previously said I did. That never happened.

Lol he delusional I’m guessing

 

[The Merchant]

You do not know what you are talking about.

Here it is in simpler language for you:

Possibility A: The suicidal man committed suicide.

Possibility B: The suicidal man committed suicide and also, there was a conspiracy by other people to make it easier for him.

Possibility A is preferable until evidence establishes the additional contingencies as factual or highly probable.

Saying it doesn't make it true.

Every suicide needs motive method and opportunity. 3 variables not 1. This is self-evident.

The whole point is how do you know he was suicidal, writing "he was suicidal" or asserting it with insults means nothing.

This is epistemological simplicity how do you know what you know?

We've had conflicting reports to whether he tried to commit suicide or whether he was attacked, also had reports of him being in a good mood and positive.

Preferable means nothing. It's a subjective choice I prefer this to this. I prefer red over blue. So?

 

[The Merchant]

I think you're grossly overestimating the quality of care and competency of prison staff.

Demonstrate the competence level then so we can see what it is, that way it stops arguments based on opinion.

what is the quality of care at MCC for high risk/profile prisoners?

I'm assuming you know the real quality of care to compare it with the false quality of care assumed by others in this thread.

Can't find the full audit, maybe not available to public.

Funny how they housed two islamic terrorists for years and got them to trial.

Or is someone going to tell me Islamic terrorists aren't suicidal?

 

[SBJJ]

I'm really not understanding the hatred shown in here by a few posters who seem to think anyone who believes something fishy happened are crazy

What does it fucking matter to you guys. Do you have some skin in the game or something

Is it possible we have the Podesto brothers posting up in this thread?

 

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[BEER]

An important additional variable, which is really the elephant in the room, is his involvement with very powerful people in the context of philia. This is what is tilting the mental probability factor for a lot of people towards possibility B. It creates that fish smell.

If that elephant in the room wasn't present, then I don't think peoples alarm bells would be going off.

They are still just probabilities though, since nobody here knows for sure, so that is the right way of looking at things I think.

This is my line of thinking.

If it were some trailer park shithead caught with a computer full of CP, and he killed himself in a jail cell, no one would blink an eye. Even if some people suppose guards may have looked the other way to make sure the trash died, it wouldn't generate any sort of conversation or debate.

But Epstein wasn't some trailer trash . He was an extremely wealthy and connected guy with ties to politicians and corporate elites and celebrities and apparently even British royalty. That being the case, it's worth speculation that perhaps this wasn't really an "oops the guards fucked up" situation. The guy had a lot of dirt on a lot of powerful people. Maybe he really did just commit run of the mill jail cell suicide, but the stench is strong here.