Janitor's Annual Pay: $26K. UFC Fighter's Annual Pay: $25K

[mjmj]

Fighting twice a year isn't a full time job. At least make a fair comparison.

 

[Dan155]

Fighting twice a year isn't a full time job. At least make a fair comparison.

But that would undermine his stupid argument.

 

[jrams]

Yep, because fighters don't go to the gym or do anything the entire year while waiting for the fights, they just lace up the gloves and show up.

They don't get paid to train. Just like the millions of other contractors who don't get additional money for improving their skills. They do better, get better clients, and can charge more.

 

[lena]

Fighting twice a year isn't a full time job. At least make a fair comparison.

Training to fight IS a full time job.

You have no idea what it takes to become a professional fighter. At least show the fighters the respect they deserve.

 

[sonhow]

Just beign in the ufc does not make you the best anymore. You have to work your way up like anyone else.
And why does janitor's pay have any relevance here? It's a rather good pay for someone that cleans floors. Upcoming or under mid tier fighter is no star.

 

[AngryPorto]

Fighting twice a year isn't a full time job. At least make a fair comparison.

If you're a pro mma fighter you're training 4-5-6 days a week, multiple sessions a day. That is a full-time job.

Yes fighters who lose deserve to be cut, that doesn't mean that while they're in the UFC they should be making more money to show. UFC is a multi-billion dollar corporation who probably pay their desk clerks more than they pay fresh fighters.

 

[Xaa]

If you're a pro mma fighter you're training 4-5-6 days a week, multiple sessions a day. That is a full-time job.

Yes fighters who lose deserve to be cut, that doesn't mean that while they're in the UFC they should be making more money to show. UFC is a multi-billion dollar corporation who probably pay their desk clerks more than they pay fresh fighters.

Perhaps this entry level fighter that TS has losing all of his fights should have become a desk clerk.

 

[Momentosis]

Also why is the average lowered to two fights a year?

Going through the FLW division taking their recents fights if they haven't been injured or suspended and have at least 3 fights

Chris Beal- 3 fights in 10 months
Joe B - 3 fights in 11 months
Ray Borg - 3 fights in 10 months
Chico Camus - 3 fights in 10 months
Chris Cariaso - 4 fights in 13 months
Henry Cejudo - 3 fights in 6 months
Jussier Formiga - 3 fights in 10 months
Willie Gates - 3 fights in 10 months
Paddy Holohan - 4 fights in 12 months
Kyoji Horiguchi - 4 fights in 13 months
Chris Kaledas - 3 fights in 11 months
Zach Makovsky - 3 fights in 9 months
John MOraga - 4 fights in 11 months
Dustin Ortiz - 3 fights in 7 months
Sergio Pettis - 3 fights in 9 months
Brad Pickett - 3 fights in 12 months
Wilson Reis - 3 fights in 9 months
Justin Scoggins - 3 fights in 10 months
Neil Seery - 3 fights in 12 months
Louis Smolka - 3 fights in 14 months
Richie Vaculik - 3 fights in 10 months

That's 21 out of 36 guys on roster who are averaging 3 fights or more in the FLW division.

 

[lena]

Some UFC shill pointed out that the lowest rung janitor might make only 17K a year, . Whoop-de-do. So you've proved that the UFC fighter makes a few thousand more than a new janitor.

Do any of you honestly believe that a fighter in the top league of a global sport should have comparable pay to an ordinary janitor?

 

[DGT4NOW]

The shills are out in force today.

You are really not a good poster

 

[KantoTerror]

Not to discount the fact that you have to pay your cornerman, trainer. training dues, living expenses. What about medical expenses - this one is huge. we all know fighters are getting shafted...but it's not like the fighters don't know this already. those who stay and keeps fighting know what they're getting into....they can't really complain...

 

[Mikedh]

If you're a pro mma fighter you're training 4-5-6 days a week, multiple sessions a day. That is a full-time job.

Yes fighters who lose deserve to be cut, that doesn't mean that while they're in the UFC they should be making more money to show. UFC is a multi-billion dollar corporation who probably pay their desk clerks more than they pay fresh fighters.

A desk clerk would work for them year round. Meanwhile the new fighter who lost his only two ufc fights (what TS calls an "average ufc fighter") would likely be on his way out and making only a small percentage of what he was before regardless if he won or lost.

People on this forum are quick to say being in the ufc doesn't make you a great fighter, I agree, but on this issue and only issue, being signed with the ufc has all the prestige and accomplishment in the world.

 

[jrams]

Not to discount the fact that you have to pay your cornerman, trainer. training dues, living expenses. What about medical expenses - this one is huge. we all know fighters are getting shafted...but it's not like the fighters don't know this already. those who stay and keeps fighting know what they're getting into....they can't really complain...

UFCers got it real tough having to pay for living expenses. So incredibly unfair.

 

[neomage2021]

I see. So because the UFC pays a few thousand more than the other orgs, the fighters should fall onto their knees in gratitude. Gotcha.

The shills are out in force today.

actually the UFC minimum pay is usually close to 10x the minimum pay bellator or WSOF minimum pay. Hell the reebok sponsorship alone is more than the minimum pay f either bellator or wsof

 

[neomage2021]

Training to fight IS a full time job.

You have no idea what it takes to become a professional fighter. At least show the fighters the respect they deserve.

having been at jacksons mma for 7 years now, no training to become a professional isnt a full time job for most fighters. Once you make it an establish yourself then yes it is.

 

[DGT4NOW]

Not to discount the fact that you have to pay your cornerman, trainer. training dues, living expenses. What about medical expenses - this one is huge. we all know fighters are getting shafted...but it's not like the fighters don't know this already. those who stay and keeps fighting know what they're getting into....they can't really complain...

UFC pays medical for close to 600 fighters (every fighter on contract)
They pay guys $10k + $10k to start, plus medical to see if they can work their way up the ladder.
If they do than they make more money
If they don't they get cut
UFC has 10 divisions & does not really need to be contracting the bottom 300 at all ... nevermind paying their medical & covering event cost for the fighters, etc.
They could do what Bellator does for the first 4-5 fights per card & pay a local indy guy $1k total

They are basically paying people to try out & covering medical.
Getting a shot at being a FT UFC fighter should not equate to a guaranteed 100k a year job immediately


This has been discussed a lot & some still don't get it

 

[KantoTerror]

actually the UFC minimum pay is usually close to 10x the minimum pay bellator or WSOF minimum pay. Hell the reebok sponsorship alone is more than the minimum pay f either bellator or wsof

again...what happens is pretty much. they're getting paid less from this orgs...but the sponsorship money is where they get more. you can put 100 patches on your shorts and banners for 100 - 200 a piece...and UFC which is the bigger org...may have offered a bigger pay out from their pockets but took away sponsor ship money which really help the whole fighting team of 1 fighter...

 

[Momentosis]

Not to discount the fact that you have to pay your cornerman, trainer. training dues, living expenses. What about medical expenses - this one is huge. we all know fighters are getting shafted...but it's not like the fighters don't know this already. those who stay and keeps fighting know what they're getting into....they can't really complain...

Are you talking like getting sick or getting hurt in training/a fight.




UFC covers up to 50,000 a year in medical if you are injured training for a fight or are injured in a fight.

 

[lena]

You will never hear of an athlete competing in the NFL, NBA, NHL or MLB needing to work a side job to make ends meet. And yet, despite the UFC bragging about its being worth billions, typical fighters have to take side jobs or even resort to crowdfunding.

 

[flanellograf]

If you're a pro mma fighter you're training 4-5-6 days a week, multiple sessions a day. That is a full-time job.

Yes fighters who lose deserve to be cut, that doesn't mean that while they're in the UFC they should be making more money to show. UFC is a multi-billion dollar corporation who probably pay their desk clerks more than they pay fresh fighters.

Probably, but the UFC is not a charity. You get paid what you are worth and can negotiate. And the base pay is still better than what a debuting prelim boxer gets. More importantly, the difference between a regular job and fighting is that if you are good, you can be making millions in a couple of years.