Janitor's Annual Pay: $26K. UFC Fighter's Annual Pay: $25K

[jeremyemilio]

If you figures are correct (not doubting) than that is 19x more & that should be where the thread ends ... but it won't :icon_twis

MLB probably puts upwards of 2000 guys on the field in any one given year. That's at least 5 times the number of guys Zuffa puts into the cage in the same time period.

 

[DGT4NOW]

So be a janitor.

I have no problem with people advocating for themselves, or even for others, to be better paid.

But it always pisses me off when they drag in the some other job or career and offer up the pay scale as some sort of prima facie evidence that there's something out of whack because it's so obvious for anyone to see that job is for worthless peons whereas my job is ultra important.

When I was in university my profs went on strike near the end of my fourth year. I supported them. I refused to cross the picket line, to go to the one class being taught by the one professor that didn't strike.

The reason why I supported them was because I worked at a meat plant for three years prior to going to university. I was in a union and I believed with all of my heart that everyone has the right to bargain a salary on their own terms, and that right shouldn't be undermined.

But when one of my professors brought up the fact that the garbage collectors in town were getting paid more than first year professors it rubbed me the wrong way and I asked her what was stopping her from being a garbage collector. I've always had a weird double consciousness about that remark where I feel bad that I ever said it, and yet I still feel that I was right and it was something she ought to have heard.

Interesting post man ... you usually post upper end
All I want to add is that, I have not heard a fighter make the comparison & if they did they are in the extreme vocal minority
A TS with a misguided agenda did
Fighters know that they are being paid 10x what they would elsewhere (plus medical) for a CHANCE to move up in the UFC if they prove themselves. If not they can either realize early on that they need a different career path or try again.
Most fighters get it
Some fans don't

 

[hadrian999]

Wrong. The main reason they make more is because there's more money to go around. The MLB made 9 billion in 2014. That's billion with a B.

The ufc made around 470 million, with an m.

without a means for players to force owners to give them a better deal the existance of more money alone doesn't translate to higher pay

 

[DGT4NOW]

MLB probably puts upwards of 2000 guys on the field in any one given year. That's at least 5 times the number of guys Zuffa puts into the cage in the same time period.

Don't forget the minor leagues too
That is what is comparable to 10-10 guys

 

[DGT4NOW]

without a means for players to force owners to give them a better deal the existance of more money alone doesn't translate to higher pay

A union would certainly help fighter pay ... but lower-end fighter pay has gone up a lot & they added hundreds of fighters & included medical.
Things are much better now for a guy wanting a shot at MMA than ever before.
Things are headed in the right direction

 

[SerrabyTKO]

If you figures are correct (not doubting) than that is 19x more & that should be where the thread ends ... but it won't :icon_twis

MLB Rev Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybr...l-sees-record-9-billion-in-revenues-for-2014/


UFC rev. source: http://www.mmafacts.com/index.cfm?fa=main.news&ContentGroupID=2056 (its rom 2008) I'll see if I can track down a more recent one but it really doesn't matter.



And none of this include the literal billions in government subsidies given to the major sports leagues that reduce their overhead costs by, of course, literal billions. Which of course frees up even more money to be able to redistribute to their players.

It also doesn't include the fact that they other major sport leagues don't even have to pay for their own venues (stadiums). The tax payers of their cities take care of that fore them, and they still get to keep the majority of the profits from their operation.

The UFC is also completely responsible for the costs of actually putting on a PPV event, and marketing it. The NFL? The networks PAY them a license fee for the privilege of showing NFL games. The networks also produce all of the marketing.

The UFC gets dick from the government, and has to pay for the privilege to rent out a stadium or a casino for the night and for the fight week before. They also have to pay tens of millions in insurance costs to the city they are holding the event in. The MLB/NBA/NFL? LOL of course not.

This is why anyone who compares the UFC to major orgs in terms of player compensation is an idiot who should be ashamed of how fucking stupid they are.

 

[Mondo Freaks]

Man, Matyushenko gets paid peanuts

 

[jeremyemilio]

Interesting post man ... you usually post upper end
All I want to add is that, I have not heard a fighter make the comparison & if they did they are in the extreme vocal minority
A TS with a misguided agenda did
Fighters know that they are being paid 10x what they would elsewhere (plus medical) for a CHANCE to move up in the UFC if they prove themselves. If not they can either realize early on that they need a different career path or try again.
Most fighters get it
Some fans don't

Agreed.

My quibble was specifically with TS and, to be precise, with this presumptuous rhetorical question in the OP:

"Do any of you honestly believe that an ordinary janitor is worth more than a fighter in the top league of a global sport?"

Ugh.

 

[DGT4NOW]

MLB Rev Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybr...l-sees-record-9-billion-in-revenues-for-2014/


UFC rev. source: http://www.mmafacts.com/index.cfm?fa=main.news&ContentGroupID=2056 (its rom 2008) I'll see if I can track down a more recent one but it really doesn't matter.



And none of this include the literal billions in government subsidies given to the major sports leagues that reduce their overhead costs by, of course, literal billions. Which of course frees up even more money to be able to redistribute to their players.

It also doesn't include the fact that they other major sport leagues don't even have to pay for their own venues (stadiums). The tax payers of their cities take care of that fore them, and they still get to keep the majority of the profits from their operation.

The UFC is also completely responsible for the costs of actually putting on a PPV event, and marketing it. The NFL? The networks PAY them a license fee for the privilege of showing NFL games. The networks also produce all of the marketing.

The UFC gets dick from the government, and has to pay for the privilege to rent out a stadium or a casino for the night and for the fight week before. They also have to pay tens of millions in insurgence costs to the city they are holding the event in. The MLB/NBA/NFL? LOL of course not.

This is why anyone who compares the UFC to major orgs in terms of player compensation is an idiot who should be ashamed of how fucking stupid they are.

I hear you, but won't go that far.
I get seeing figures in the press & thinking "why can't MMA guys make that?"
It is the dolts that get it explained & STILL refuse to acknowledge it that fall into your description IMO.

Also to keep in line with the TS ... the comparison should be MLB minor league players & UFC's 10-10 guys & the winner there is ... UFC!

 

[Scamrock]

This will certainly get all the NFL/NBA level athletes to take a hard look at the UFC instead of the A level athlete sports. I mean, James Harden just got offered 200 million by Adidas to wear their shoes. Nike gave Durant 300 million to wear their shoes. Not to mention the 20 million a year salary from playing basketball. Or you can instead fight in the UFC and make around poverty line and get your face wrecked and lose brain cells. Sign us up please, said none of them....

There is also the chance those guys cant take a hit for shit. A level athlete doesnt necessarily mean A level fighter.

 

[MTNinja]

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[DGT4NOW]

Agreed.

My quibble was specifically with TS and, to be precise, with this presumptuous rhetorical question in the OP:

"Do any of you honestly believe that an ordinary janitor is worth more than a fighter in the top league of a global sport?"

Ugh.

I hear you
His post was a mess, but I get that some things can irk someone more than others.

I was in the entertainment field for 16 years (union performer) & ran a business within it for 10 as well. I see all sides & things are never as black/white as these threads try to make it.

 

[DGT4NOW]

There is also the chance those guys cant take a hit for shit. A level athlete doesnt necessarily mean A level fighter.

He is comparing the elite in one sport to the curtain jerker in another ... why bother replying?
lol

 

[eiyuu]

You're right, who needs professional fighters. Lets just watch bums fight in an alley.

You're attitude fucking sucks.

Nope, just realistic.

The pay is a feeling out process.

Those that do well and win, will get a new contract and get paid more.

Those that don't win will get cut and will most likely need to find a new profession since they can't make it in the big leagues.

Works this way in most sports. Less than half of NFL draftees actually stick around in the NFL after the first season. The rest are cut and have to find other professions because they weren't good enough.

Same goes for those low paid fighters in the UFC.

Succeed and get paid more.

Lose and get cut.

Why is that hard to understand?

Hell, GSP started out making $3k/3k in the UFC.

Left the UFC making $4.5 Million a fight.

So put your attitude in perspective for a change.

 

[GordonMMARamsey]

Someone should have told these fighters that before they started fighting.