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Law Trump just pardoned 1.5k rioters and Proud Boys.....

SKYNET said:
Another great point I hardly see much engagement on. If some of these fuckers have been locked up for several years, how long before it becomes excessive
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How can you say someone like Enrique Tarrio didn’t deserve to be behind bars? I could maybe understand it more if it were nonviolent offenders and people that didn’t plan to overthrow the government but this guy is as bad as they come and got freed. He wa sentenced 22 years.
 
Kingz said:

Pavlik still wants his dad to suffer. The left did a number on him.

Pretending like he’s afraid his old man is going to come after him to justify his betrayal. Even his two sisters thinks he’s being a little bitch

Also, he raised like a 1/4 milli from leftists for his college fund. He still attends 2 year college, after 4 years

Loser
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Hdfi said:
Good, prison should be for real criminals, not for peaceful protesters like that shamam guy.
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Can I have a list of people he hurt? He’s just some dipshit from buttfucksville. Almost took America though. He was that close
 
Zazen said:
How so?
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When you proclaim something is NOT GOOD but still supported, that tends to raise a few cultish red flags. When something occurs that is random, rare or even unprecedented is now suddenly deemed NECESSARY, that should also raise some red flags. Of course cult members aren't adept at proper self reflection so it requires an outsiders point of view to help the cult members get a whiff of the crap they are swimming in.

Zazen said:
Democrats tossed Biden out. Trumpists won’t challenge Trump on anything. Do you think there’s anything Trump could do to lose support? I mean he’s scammed them over a dozen times and that hasn’t made them think any differently.
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Dems fucked up by waiting too long on Biden. He was showing signs of decrepitude for many months prior, that tells everyone outside of the lefty bubble that they were ok going with Weekend at Bidens and playing along with it.

Saying Trumpists are in a cult, by the people who are supporting stuff that is clearly NOT GOOD and all of the sudden is now NECESSARY isn't holding up as well as you imagined it would.
 
SKYNET said:
<PlusJuan> this is a very underrated point no one is mentioning
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I've no issue with pardons - I mean, well tecnically I do have issues with it but I respect the fact that the President has the right to do it - but it should not be wholesale (like J6) and retroactive pardons should most certainly not be permitted (like Biden/Fauci/Miley etc). If anything, if someone goes to jail for a crime they are convicted of, then a later president can issue the pardon, but there has to be some consequences beyond infamy.

For general pardons, there should be criteria attached to it - if someone was violent or intentionally or is on record to have caused chaos/damage - fuck em - straight to jail, no pardon, ever. In this case with J6, where I think it's disengenous to lump everyone in attedance as agents of chaos or destruction, it should be on a case by case basis - there is enough videographic evidence to single out violent protestors vs. protestors who were there to protest. Both those things are true at the same time with J6. ANYONE who physically went inside the building, even if they were allegedly led in by staff, should never be on the receiving end of the pardon. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
 
Cool Hand Luke said:
I've no issue with pardons - I mean, well tecnically I do have issues with it but I respect the fact that the President has the right to do it - but it should not be wholesale (like J6) and retroactive pardons should most certainly not be permitted (like Biden/Fauci/Miley etc). If anything, if someone goes to jail for a crime they are convicted of, then a later president can issue the pardon, but there has to be some consequences beyond infamy.

For general pardons, there should be criteria attached to it - if someone was violent or intentionally or is on record to have caused chaos/damage - fuck em - straight to jail, no pardon, ever. In this case with J6, where I think it's disengenous to lump everyone in attedance as agents of chaos or destruction, it should be on a case by case basis - there is enough videographic evidence to single out violent protestors vs. protestors who were there to protest. Both those things are true at the same time with J6. ANYONE who physically went inside the building, even if they were allegedly led in by staff, should never be on the receiving end of the pardon. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
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Right, unlike you, I do whole-heartedly have issues with pardons, all nuance aside. There is no oversight, no recourse. It's a fuck you, I'm the king, kind of thing.

My point is, didn't Trump say he was going to pardon the J6ers?

Whether you like it or not, I would give him credit for not lying about it, and keeping his word to his voters unlike what Biden did which was say one thing before the elections and do the opposite afterwards. (if Trump said he would NOT pardon them, then please correct me, he's fucked up if that's the case)
 
No sense on keeping the political prisoners in prison.

Make room for Dr Fauci.
koquerelle said:
Did Trump also pardoned those who were violent on January 6?
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Was anyone violent? What actually happened?

I thought a bunch of guys in costumes walked around the capitol and the news called it a civil war.
 
fedorthegoat777 said:
No sense on keeping the political prisoners in prison.

Make room for Dr Fauci.

Was anyone violent? What actually happened?

I thought a bunch of guys in costumes walked around the capitol and the news called it a civil war.
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Oh, eat shit. Trump himself said some were violent, you turd.

Can a normal man answer my question? I don't know all the details of Trump's pardons.
 
Can anyone confirm if he pardoned the violent rioters too? People that attacked police directly?
 
SKYNET said:
Right, unlike you, I do whole-heartedly have issues with pardons, all nuance aside. There is no oversight, no recourse. It's a fuck you, I'm the king, kind of thing.

My point is, didn't Trump say he was going to pardon the J6ers?

Whether you like it or not, I would give him credit for not lying about it, and keeping his word to his voters unlike what Biden did which was say one thing before the elections and do the opposite afterwards. (if Trump said he would NOT pardon them, then please correct me, he's fucked up if that's the case)
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To be clear, I do have issues with these Presidential pardons, but I doubt that's something my displeasure with them will change - hence why I think at the very least pardoning someone should have criteria attached to it. For the record, if it were on the table for the practice to be completely banned, I'd be all for that. As for Trump, I recall reading he said he was considering pardoning some of them. I could be wrong, I just don't recall damned near everyone being on the table.

I think you and the other guy are focusing on my displeasure with it specifically being Trump doing this and attaching it to my unhappiness that Trump was just following through with what he apparently said he'd do - I don't like it at all, doesn't matter who the president is, regardless of whether he promised it or not. However, since he's in his right to do so, I'd have preferred that each individual was scrutinized for their role in J6 - I don't believe everyone there is guilty of trying to thwart democracy, just some of them. I also don't believe Trump encouraged them to do anything other than peacefully protest, but that's just my opinion and another discussion.

Since it is legal, I believe there should be some nuance or criteria attached to who is elligible.
 
koquerelle said:
Oh, eat shit. Trump himself said some were violent, you turd.

Can a normal man answer my question? I don't know all the details of Trump's pardons.
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I asked a question you goofer.

You are looking for the same answer.

The event was manipulated by the media.

So who was violent, what happened, and are they pardoned?

And what kind of violence was used? Fists? Do they deserve years in prison for that?

My question is getting to the truth of what really happened, not the media's version of truth.

How many of these guys were actually violent and what exactly did they do?
 
Kingz said:

Pavlik still wants his dad to suffer. The left did a number on him.

Pretending like he’s afraid his old man is going to come after him to justify his betrayal. Even his two sisters thinks he’s being a little bitch

Also, he raised like a 1/4 milli from leftists for his college fund. He still attends 2 year college, after 4 years

Loser
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Was interested in reading it, see if you can find another source, they pulled it.
 
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