Law Trump just pardoned 1.5k rioters and Proud Boys.....

To be clear, I do have issues with these Presidential pardons, but I doubt that's something my displeasure with them will change - hence why I think at the very least pardoning someone should have criteria attached to it. For the record, if it were on the table for the practice to be completely banned, I'd be all for that. As for Trump, I recall reading he said he was considering pardoning some of them. I could be wrong, I just don't recall damned near everyone being on the table.

I think you and the other guy are focusing on my displeasure with it specifically being Trump doing this and attaching it to my unhappiness that Trump was just following through with what he apparently said he'd do - I don't like it at all, doesn't matter who the president is, regardless of whether he promised it or not. However, since he's in his right to do so, I'd have preferred that each individual was scrutinized for their role in J6 - I don't believe everyone there is guilty of trying to thwart democracy, just some of them. I also don't believe Trump encouraged them to do anything other than peacefully protest, but that's just my opinion and another discussion.

Since it is legal, I believe there should be some nuance or criteria attached to who is elligible.
right but again, call me a partisan hack if you want, but I give Trump credit for actually going through with what he said he was going to do, versus Biden who said he would NOT pardon Hunter, and also said he wouldn't issue blanket pardons
 
right but again, call me a partisan hack if you want, but I give Trump credit for actually going through with what he said he was going to do, versus Biden who said he would NOT pardon Hunter, and also said he wouldn't issue blanket pardons
I wouldn't call anyone a partisan hack, that's not my style.
 
Why is this a news story when you leftists morons praised Biden for it? Trump SAID he was going to. Biden said HE WASN'T going too. He said "you will never see that from this administration. It is wrong and makes us look weak". ANnnnnd he lied and did it. Tit for tat at this point.
 
I asked a question you goofer.

You are looking for the same answer.

The event was manipulated by the media.

So who was violent, what happened, and are they pardoned?

And what kind of violence was used? Fists? Do they deserve years in prison for that?

My question is getting to the truth of what really happened, not the media's version of truth.

How many of these guys were actually violent and what exactly did they do?
You are a a very dishonest loser.
 
Why is this a news story when you leftists morons praised Biden for it? Trump SAID he was going to. Biden said HE WASN'T going too. He said "you will never see that from this administration. It is wrong and makes us look weak". ANnnnnd he lied and did it. Tit for tat at this point.

So it's bad when Biden does it but justified when Trump does it. You hacks have no consistency.
 
Generally, when personal insults start flying or someone starts saying 'demoncrats' or 'repugnicans' or similar, I lose interest in a discussion. Read my sig.
Contrary to popular opinion, I am actually trying to bridge some of the gaps between us. Gotta take a few shots in the rib cage to keep building the bridges
 
No sense on keeping the political prisoners in prison.

Make room for Dr Fauci.

Was anyone violent? What actually happened?

I thought a bunch of guys in costumes walked around the capitol and the news called it a civil war.
A few of them were and one asshole smeared shit on the wall though based on using gas station bathrooms over the years that may just be that persons normal shitting behavior
 
You are a a very dishonest loser.
Thank you.
So are you saying you can't answer the question either? Or refuse to answer it? Or are you scared of the question?

I am not even making a claim to know anything about it. I saw videos, media manipulated it, so where is the truth? Likely in the middle.

Are you making a claim all 2,000 people in jail used violence? Or is your claim some used violence and some are in jail as political prisoners?

If you can respond intelligently without name calling, I'll even like your response.
 
Trump should pardon all of his family for any crimes that have ever occurred
 
Contrary to popular opinion, I am actually trying to bridge some of the gaps between us. Gotta take a few shots in the rib cage to keep building the bridges
I'm politically very centrist and often, at times very annoyingly the Devils advocate, towards both my left and right leaning friends. To my kids, I'm an old racist, nazi, homophobe, transphobe, boomer, senile old bald man.
 
A few of them were and one asshole smeared shit on the wall though based on using gas station bathrooms over the years that may just be that persons normal shitting behavior
Should be punished for smearing shit on a wall. He already has a year in for time served.

Some deserved prison if they were violent.

But some of these guys were just goofs in costumes.
 
Thank you.
So are you saying you can't answer the question either? Or refuse to answer it? Or are you scared of the question?

I am not even making a claim to know anything about it. I saw videos, media manipulated it, so where is the truth? Likely in the middle.

Are you making a claim all 2,000 people in jail used violence? Or is your claim some used violence and some are in jail as political prisoners?

If you can respond intelligently without name calling, I'll even like your response.

I'm saying any effort trying to talk to you is a waste because your brain is completely full of trash.
 
in fairness, when he says crazy shit, he doesn't mean it. until he does, and then it's just keeping promises......

That is the double standard....

"He isn't literally going to invade Panama or make Canada a state"

His followers just selectively pick and choose. They won't hold him over his inepitude when it came to the wall or when it came to repealing Obama Care or draining the swamp.
 
I’m pretty sure the past VP and her party were arranging bail for those peaceful blm protesters,

I’ll wait for the evidence from you that the Democratic Party arranged for bail for blm protesters. I’ll wait


AOC going down and pretending to be arrested snd handcuffed in support and others encouraging them to fight. I’m not remember exactly what Biden said about those mostly peaceful blm riots though.

aoc is a far left politician that’s been shut down by her own party. So hardly a representative

Also from what I saw she tweeted about racial injustice, didn’t see her encouraging smashing buildings.
 
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