International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

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More people believe the propaganda and lies Israel is currently constantly spouting.

On western, English based social media? Maybe. College crowd is very pro Iran. Reddit comments are gross atm In any video of Israel getting hit by missiles. On Arabic sites, social media? It's undoubtedly pro Iran.
 
It was even more refueling tankers than previously reported.



The number of tanker aircraft that took off from their home base overnight after the takeoff of the planes from New Jersey increased to 32.A significant number of the aircraft were sent to Moron Air Base in Spain, the rest to the UK, Germany, Italy and one to Estonia. Several aircraft were sent to the CENTCOM area of responsibility.In the context of the rather unusual air activity, there are suggestions that the planes were heading to Europe to take part in the Atlantic Trident 25 exercise, which is scheduled to involve 40 aircraft from the US, UK, French and Finnish air forces.The following two points may indicate the opposite version: the almost simultaneous take-off of such a significant number of tankers, which is not required for the exercises, and Spain as the final destination of the route.Spain is noteworthy because American strategic bombers flying to the Middle East usually fly across the Atlantic to the Mediterranean through the Strait of Gibraltar and on into the region. In this way, they remain in international airspace the entire way, without notifying European countries.We will not rush to make statements about plans to involve American strategic aviation in the Israeli operation or about joining tankers to refuel Israeli aviation, but the activity is interesting. Let us just add the news about the beginning of the movement of the USS Nimitz (CVN-68) carrier strike group from the ITR to the Middle East.

You don't send 30+ tankers to a NATO exercise with only 40 planes, they're clearly setting up for something big. Parking them in Spain points to preparation for a large strike on Iran with strategic bombers.


Yeah, everything is pointing at the US joining in bombing Iran unfortunately. It's going to be interesting to see the MAGET cult splinter, and see who still stands behind Trump with him doing this when a majority of the people don't support it.

Ive said it a dozen times, the MAGET crew better hope this doesn't turn into WW3, they are going to be drafted and dying for Israel when shit hits the fan.
 
On western, English based social media? Maybe. College crowd is very pro Iran. Reddit comments are gross atm In any video of Israel getting hit by missiles. On Arabic sites, social media? It's undoubtedly pro Iran.
I didn't see the root of your debate, but is that a surprise? Israel have become a pariah and reasonably so. Save mainstream media propaganda networks, people see through the bullshit. Israel is the bully, Israel is the belligerent actor. People rejoice when the bully gets punched back in the face.
 
It’s cool though, they won’t do anything with it

 
Anyone know how Israel intends to get at the nuclear site buried .5 mile bgs? There isn’t a bunker buster available that can impact that deeply

This is all for not unless they can get this one
 
This lady, Elica le Bon, is a professional Israel shill that constantly goes on Piers Morgan and gets owned. She's a propagandist.


What she is saying about their religion and destroying Israel is fact even if you disagree with her POV. A "propagandist" is someone you disagree with these days.
 
One can hope, but Trump isn't exacttly known for not overplaying his hand and taking his wins.

This is peak Trump, we're trying to clean up a mess he made and then he'll try and claim a win even if we end up int he same or worse spot after his stupidity.
Will see. Not sure why Biden didnt restart. The terrorist stuff and meddling should be a part of any deal which is why Trump wanted out initially iirc. But talks never resumed through his and another president. I dont care much about a win as much as getting something going to reign in Iran. Trump is making deals with some middle east countries to strengthen ties. Giving Iran more security assurances and incentives.... Unless the regime is totally gone may work.
It's even more exact than that. Explosives manufacturing is semi-standardized. Nukes aren't. To borrow another Tom Clancy movie, Sum of All Fears oversells this aspect of nukes some but not by a whole lot.
Def must be more complex
 
Everything is pointing to the US joining in bombing Iran from the looks of it, because Trump and his supporters are currently falling for the Israeli propaganda.

Will you condemn Trump if he changes course and joins in bombing Iran?
Yes.
 
The tit for tat between proxies and Israel's constant direct attacks on Iran are a wash.
lol.
On the current outright War: Iran is trying to negotiate, Israel is trying to decimate.

Those are the facts.

Are you trying to act like Israel is the actor after peace here?
lol. again, you were trying to act as if there was no reason to place sanctions on iran. and that all iran wants is peace. it's laughable and you're not credible.
 
You really don't know what you are thinking about. If russia and ukraine might use airplanes manufactured in 1970 ies and 1980 ies today, then do you think that Iran might not have some F-14 in working condition somewhere? Or you will insist that F-14 is peace of shit if compare with Su 25, annushkas and old Mi-8, old bombers etc?
 
lol.

lol. again, you were trying to act as if there was no reason to place sanctions on iran. and that all iran wants is peace. it's laughable and you're not credible.
I didn't even comment on the reasoning behind applying the sanctions, so how was I claiming there was "no reason" ???

I claimed their removal would be a red-line for Iran in order to follow through with the agreement.

Again, all you do is argue against strawmans, not what is actually said, but what you perceive to be what I'm "acting" like I'm saying, and then you want claim I'M the one that lacks credibility?

I'm tired of the shtick. It's been going on too long with you. You aren't willing to engage in serious debate, so you're being sent to the ignore realm. You want to argue against a Strawman? You got it. Don't expect any responses anymore. Yap away in that cornfield against an unresponsive object.
 
You really don't know what you are thinking about. If russia and ukraine might use airplanes manufactured in 1970 ies and 1980 ies today, then do you think that Iran might not have some F-14 in working condition somewhere? Or you will insist that F-14 is peace of shit if compare with Su 25, annushkas and old Mi-8, old bombers etc?
Maybe go read the news and get updated
The Israelis may as well install an airbase in Iran at this point
 
Will see. Not sure why Biden didnt restart.
There was no political will left from Iran or Europe to do so. Why would they agree to a international agreement that took years to get in place that the US fucked up for no reason at a stroke of pen? Not to mention providing domestic cover to the deal it in the first place took a huge amount of political capital from Democrats.

This shitshow lies squarely at the feet of the Republicans, Trump and Bibi. Remember he was the one who sabotaged and lobbied for it in Congress and caused a rupture in foreign policy decor and tradition by doing so.
The terrorist stuff and meddling should be a part of any deal which is why Trump wanted out initially iirc.
It makes no sense. If you and I agree to A, B, C, and then you pull out of the deal because of X,Y,Z, that's just idiotic. Negotiate a separate agreement for those matters.

And again, Iran's proxies got decimated in Syria, as they are currently also getting beat down in Lebanon and Gaza. The US should take that win and move on, there's no point throwing out an entire nuclear deal for something that isn't much of a threat anymore.
Def must be more complex
More complex, more precise.

But again, this is all really academic, because if a bomb goes off, it's really not hard to figure out who it is out of the limited handful of nuclear powers in the world.
 
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