International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

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The problem is Trump is 80 and Sundowning. He is surrounded by a bunch of pro Israel Hawks. Can’t wait for the no wars wing of MAGA capitulate when our troops get involved.
If Israel wants to attack Iran that’s their business but the US needs to stay the fuck out of it.
Agreed. Repubs lose the next election if the us goes to war.
 
Seriously this is so damn comical
What alternate universe are you living in?

Iran is shot
Russia is shot
China doesn’t really give a shit


So what?

Sadly Russia isn't shot, that war could rage on indefinitely.

I think you're grossly overestimating the amount of damage a nation can take.

Iran isn't exactly small.

I don't like Russia and wish they'd pack the fuck up and go home, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen.
 
Nevatim airbase just got whacked again


Dead oil refinery to fuel rationing in a single day. Israel really did drink their own Kool-aid.
 
Sadly Russia isn't shot, that war could rage on indefinitely.

I think you're grossly overestimating the amount of damage a nation can take.

Iran isn't exactly small.

I don't like Russia and wish they'd pack the fuck up and go home, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen.
Bro…
 
What has Iran done in recent years that's hard to predict?
I mean overall what will get them to budge.
Yes, as discussed extensively, every country has its proxies and nasty people they use to annoy and hamstring their adversaries. We do, Israel does, Iran does, the Soviet did, etc.
Iran also sponsors terrorist attacks etc. They are a terrible regime.
Dealing with Irani means seeing them as what they are, a wannabe regional power with a despotic government that competes with Saudi Arabia and Israel. Seeing them as mustache twirling villains with illogical motivations doesn't help the US.
Its just that counting on them not to do something terrible if they thought it was right... yeah not so much.
I agree with nukes, yes, the fewer that have them usually the better. But in this instance, it wouldn't make Iran uncontrollable(setting aside the faulty premise that you can control other countries), it would put them at nuclear parity (sort of) with Israel if they can guarantee a second strike (deterrence comes from that, not a first strike).
You see Russia doing what they want. Its partially due to that threat. They already threaten those things.
The bigger issue would be what Saudi Arabia does if Iran goes nuclear, but again, you can't stop a country form getting nukes if they want them. All you can do is manage the situation with deterrence and diplomacy, the US and Israel have utterly failed at the second part.
Most countries would want them for security. Its the ultimate trump card.
 
You don't realize how many of the republican base are anti us troops fighting in unnecessary wars.
It really is too early to make rash conclusions like this

We are talking about the Teflon Don here
NOTHING is ever as bad as it seems w this guy. NOTHING

I had these same sentiments when Trump took Soleimani out 4 years ago….turned out to be a stroke of genius

Just relax. Everything is going as planned and Iran is indeed getting smoked here. The stock market will surge and all will be forgotten.

Chill
 
You don't realize how many of the republican base are anti us troops fighting in unnecessary wars.

That guy doesn't understand anything, at all. He hasn't had one right take this entire thread, not even worth responding to at this point.
 
Trump saying everyone should evacuate Tehran GG
 
Sadly Russia isn't shot, that war could rage on indefinitely.

I think you're grossly overestimating the amount of damage a nation can take.

Iran isn't exactly small.

I don't like Russia and wish they'd pack the fuck up and go home, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen.
If about war in Ukraine, obiviously North Korea and Belaris really will rack up supplies and Putin doesn't care about inflation etc noise.
However not likely he will afford to do mobilozation because then mobilized will cease to pay debts and bills and unlike with gov debt low %, private debts are rising 24/7 mode like in Ukraine.
To bail out all private banks they will not be able.

So if he will be able to continue hire guys without mobo , he will continue.
 
So fuck this Administration. Lets see what MAGET crowd actually has balls to call this like it is. Trump is a liar, a war monger, and hasn't done A SINGLE THING he ran on besides immigration. Get him the fuck out of office, get all of these neo-con Republicans out of office. They are going to ruin the Country completely.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114675456780398208

It is so mind boggling, and disgusting, that the US is going to support Israel in committing war crimes and being an aggressor, attacking a Country's sovereignty. While turning its back on Ukraine. Just completely disgusting shit.
 
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So fuck this Administration. Lets see what MAGET crowd actually has balls to call this like it is. Trump is a liar, a war monger, and hasn't done A SINGLE THING he ran on. Get him the fuck out of office, get all of these neo-con Republicans out of office. They are going to ruin the Country completely.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114675456780398208

That's 4 days old bro, he hasn't committed to anything yet. There's a bunch of conservatives in here that will be as pissed as you if he puts boots on the ground
 
It really is too early to make rash conclusions like this

We are talking about the Teflon Don here
NOTHING is ever as bad as it seems w this guy. NOTHING

I had these same sentiments when Trump took Soleimani out 4 years ago….turned out to be a stroke of genius

Just relax. Everything is going as planned and Iran is indeed getting smoked here. The stock market will surge and all will be forgotten.

Chill
You realize nobody takes what you are yapping about seriously. You are acting like a war mongering try hard low iq clown with some agenda you don’t even know shit about.
 
I mean overall what will get them to budge.
Concessions and money/reduced sanctions. Same as last time and every international agreement.
Iran also sponsors terrorist attacks etc. They are a terrible regime.
Yes they are, but again, every power does this to varying degrees. Israel backs anti-Hamas terrorists, we armed Syrian terrorists, we armed Iran against Iraq (and vice versa), etc. It's not just that Iran is more despotic, but that much like suicide bombers, proxies are a poor country's foreign policy weapon.

And again, most of these proxies have been wiped out at this point.
Its just that counting on them not to do something terrible if they thought it was right... yeah not so much
You can usually count on totalitarian governments to be focused on one thing over all: regime preservation. No point in being corrupt if you're dead. And Iran has largely followed this model, they haven't tried to commit national suicide yet and likely won't if they had nukes. They might miscalculate however, but that must be weighed against the cost of a war to prevent them from obtaining nukes (aka what Israel wants).
You see Russia doing what they want. Its partially due to that threat. They already threaten those things.
Within nukes, Russia would have still invaded Ukraine. Nuclear weapons aren't that much use against non-nuclear powers because the international blow back would be ridiculous.
Most countries would want them for security. Its the ultimate trump card.
Depends. South Africa developed nuclear weapons with Israeli support because it wanted them as a bargaining chip, not because they seriously thought they might be invaded and wiped out.

Israeli developed its for national preservation, but they've been the most aggressive to date in using them to blackmail international countries into supporting them.
 
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