International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[Rational Poster]

...When have I said otherwise? You seem to be losing your marbles here.

2. Even if we accept that a unified Korea would only come from a war with China, that clearly would be a worse outcome for the US than the status quo.

 

[avenue94]

2. Even if we accept that a unified Korea would only come from a war with China, that clearly would be a worse outcome for the US than the status quo.

I'm almost verbatim repeating your argument, which as I noted is only one possible -- not the only -- scenario that leads to a unified Korea in present day.

Are you now forgetting what you just posted?

 

[Rational Poster]

I'm almost verbatim repeating your argument, which as I noted is only one possible -- not the only -- scenario that leads to a unified Korea in present day.

Are you now forgetting what you just posted?

No, I'm not forgetting anything you're writing (bad) fan fiction to defend the existence of North Korea.

 

[MrShady]

Lol? Now it's fox news fault? Amazing lol

Hope you have a good day please lay off the cable news media for a bit it'll be better for your mental health.

 

[Stoic1]

Everyone just walking by that earthquake in Tehran like ... yeah... total coincidence.

 

[avenue94]

No, I'm not forgetting anything you're writing (bad) fan fiction to defend the existence of North Korea.

Sigh. Let's take a trip down memory lane.

I said that North Korea having nuclear weapons has frozen the conflict and provided a useful buffer zone between nuclear powers, the US and China.

North Korea having nuclear weapons has led them to serve as a useful buffer zone. China would absolutely not tolerate US forces stationed in a unified Korea that directly borders them.

You then claim that a unified Korea can only arise if we defeat China on the battlefield. Which is just an unsupported statement.

This fan fiction of yours is ignoring a key part that a unified Korea implies a non-nuclear China was also defeated on the battlefield.

You want to know how I know you aren't using your brain? Because you plainly think I'm speaking about the matter in the past tense, even though as you can see in the bolded I'm using "Would," aka the conditional.

Do you need a grammar lesson on what the difference between the conditional mood and past tense in the English language?

 

[Anewt]

The good ole trust us bro evidence. Look at how good we are with our intelligence agencies... we wouldnt possibly make a mistake... although they could make it even faster because we dont have all the intel.... trust us..

 

[Contempt]

I voted for the third option... but the only involvement the US should have is to MOP up a specific site. No matter what happens, if that site is left intact, Iran will 100% still be capable of manufacturing nuclear weapons. After seeing how badly overmatched they are by Israel, they will be desperate to accelerate plans to acquire nukes for protection... that is probably the worst possible outcome.

 

[Jeffy37]

Hope you have a good day please lay off the cable news media for a bit it'll be better for your mental health.

Lol sorry I don't listen to any news outlets. Regardless if I did i would probably be better off hearing from a non biased sherdog member like you lol

 

[avenue94]

I voted for the third option... but the only involvement the US should have is to MOP up a specific site. No matter what happens, if that site is left intact, Iran will 100% still be capable of manufacturing nuclear weapons. After seeing how badly overmatched they are by Israel, they will be desperate to accelerate plans to acquire nukes for protection... that is probably the worst possible outcome.

You realize Iran could and logically, if your a totalitarian government, should just rebuild that suit, but better? Then what?

 

[aerius]

Everyone just walking by that earthquake in Tehran like ... yeah... total coincidence.

I just checked the seismic monitoring sites, the earthquake was down at 10km below ground so it's a natural one, they're not splitting atoms yet.

https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us6000qlhj/executive

 

[Rholk]

Lol at all the morons thinking Iran will run out of missiles.
They'll probably run out of things to blow up before they run out of missiles.

Israel pledges to destroy Iran's nuclear threat - Shafaq News

Shafaq News/ On Friday, Israel reaffirmed its commitment to preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons, further warning of Tehran’s expanding missile stockpile. Speaking at the Weizmann Instit

shafaq.com

Speaking at the Weizmann Institute—struck by Iranian missiles earlier this week—Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu described the Iranian government as a threat to regional stability. He also claimed that Iran possesses 28,000 missiles, underscoring the urgency of dismantling its nuclear program. “Our goal is to destroy Iran’s nuclear program, and we have the capabilities to do so,” he added.

Iran is a dickless goat at this point.

And lol @ trusting bibi when it's convenient.
My god man, could you think of any incentive for him to claim this?

 

[syct23]

Everyone just walking by that earthquake in Tehran like ... yeah... total coincidence.

Go on…

 

[Contempt]

You realize Iran could and logically, if your a totalitarian government, should just rebuild that suit, but better? Then what?

My totalitarian government? What?

The terms of any inevitable surrender would involve inspections to confirm that they aren't trying to manufacture nukes, similar to the agreement between the US and Japan on their military, post world war 2.

 

[Joe_Armstrong]

There's some serious unrest between the left and the right in W Europe.
A Member of the largest left party proposed to stop delivering parts and rockets for Iron Dome.

 

[avenue94]

My totalitarian government? What?

The terms of any inevitable surrender would involve inspections to confirm that they aren't trying to manufacture nukes, similar to the agreement between the US and Japan on their military, post world war 2.

You're not your, sorry. Your argument is divorced from reality. If a government wants to preserve their hold on power and not have the US and Israel attacking willy nilly, the obvious answer is nuclear weapons.

That adversaries are attacking your nuclear facilities so much would be only further evidence that nuclear weapons would protect your regime.

Your argument only makes sense if you expect the US to get 100% of what it wants and Iran to get zilch. In other words, you're asking for a deal that's unlikely to be struck.

Has it not occurred to you that of the 4 instances where countries gave up nuclear weapons all came through negotiation?

 

[Stoic1]

Go on…

It's the fucking Israeli earthquake making satellite of course.

 

[Contempt]

You're not your, sorry. Your argument is divorced from reality. If a government wants to preserve their hold on power and not have the US and Israel attacking willy nilly, the obvious answer is nuclear weapons.

That adversaries are attacking your nuclear facilities so much would be only further evidence that nuclear weapons would protect your regime.

Your argument only makes sense if you expect the US to get 100% of what it wants and Iran to get zilch. In other words, you're asking for a deal that's unlikely to be struck.

Has it not occurred to you that of the 4 instances where countries gave up nuclear weapons all came through negotiation?

"...and not have the US and Israel attacking willy nilly"

Are you honestly suggesting that there isn't a very good reason that Israel is attacking currently?

Yes, the "negotiation" will be: Post this current engagement, you WILL allow international inspections of your facilities or Israel will come in and kill your military leaders and flatten your military again.

Who is divorced from reality here? This is NOT a conflict between equals, Israel is systematically dismantling Iran's ability to wage war, AFTER they already dismantled their proxies (Houthi's HAMAS and Hezbollah) This conflict only ends one way.

 

[avenue94]

"...and not have the US and Israel attacking willy nilly"

Are you honestly suggesting that there isn't a very good reason that Israel is attacking currently?

Under international law, there is indeed no good reason that Israel has attacked Iran.

Yes, the "negotiation" will be: Post this current engagement, you WILL allow international inspections of your facilities or Israel will come in and kill your military leaders and flatten your military again.

So you're proposing a return to JCPOA? Congratulations, all this work and damage to the US's reputation and you've only managed to undo Trump's prior stupidity.

Who is divorced from reality here? This is NOT a conflict between equals, Israel is systematically dismantling Iran's ability to wage war, AFTER they already dismantled their proxies (Houthi's HAMAS and Hezbollah) This conflict only ends one way.

They sure are, but proxies, weapons, and infrastructure can and will be rebuilt.

Can you explain to me why there are zero instances of successfully stopping a nuclear program with air strikes and four cases where it's been doing through negotiations and diplomacy?

The basic flaw in your analysis, if we're being generous and calling it that, is that it's divorced from the historical record and treats Iran as some unique regime never seen before on God's green earth.

 

[Rational Poster]

Sigh. Let's take a trip down memory lane.

I said that North Korea having nuclear weapons has frozen the conflict and provided a useful buffer zone between nuclear powers, the US and China.

You then claim that a unified Korea can only arise if we defeat China on the battlefield. Which is just an unsupported statement.

You want to know how I know you aren't using your brain? Because you plainly think I'm speaking about the matter in the past tense, even though as you can see in the bolded I'm using "Would," aka the conditional.

Do you need a grammar lesson on what the difference between the conditional mood and past tense in the English language?

lmao