International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

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Your thin knowledge is is pretty clear here given you can't even form a coherent point.

Speaking of thin knowledge, did you ever find any evidence of Iran having the ability to miniaturize a nuclear warhead sufficiently to mount it when more sophiscated countries couldn't on your first attempt? All I remember was crickets.
 
Is a potential, not guaranteed, civil war actually a worse option to the current regime maintaining its hold, eventually developing nuclear weapons and entrenching itself indefinitely like in North Korea?

There's a range of possibilities that could occur, it doesn't mean the worst one will.
Iran is a diverse country with a 100 million people. It contains 10% of the entire world’s oil. It borders Taliban Operated Afghanistan, Erdogan’s expansionist Turkey and there are Balochi and Kurdish Independence movements gripped by the Central Government. There also tons of Azeris and Armenians in the Northeast. There is an opportunity for a “Greater Armenia” or “Greater Azerbaijan” to be pursued if the government completely dissolves….

A brutal civil war is unstoppable if rip off the snake’s head. It would be borderline impossible to keep Iran’s borders sealed given its area and if had US troops pinch the borders….How you somehow maintain faith that Trump and Netanyahu are the people to manage this fiasco is beyond me.
 
Your thin knowledge is is pretty clear here given you can't even form a coherent point.

Speaking of thin knowledge, did you ever find any evidence of Iran having the ability to miniaturize a nuclear warhead sufficiently to mount it when more sophiscated countries couldn't on your first attempt? All I remember was crickets.
Brother you hate Israel so much you're trying to justify the existence of North Korea while demonstrating you don't have a clear understanding of what even took place in the Korean war.
 
Iran is a diverse country with a 100 million people. It contains 10% of the entire world’s oil. It borders Taliban Operated Afghanistan, Erdogan’s expansionist Turkey and there are Balochi and Kurdish Independence movements gripped by the Central Government. There also tons of Azeris and Armenians in the Northeast. There is an opportunity for a “Greater Armenia” or “Greater Azerbaijan” to be pursued if the government completely dissolves….

A brutal civil war is unstoppable if you remove the tiger out of the cage. It would be borderline impossible to keep Iran’s borders sealed given its area and if had US troops pinch the borders….
That's not really a response to what I said. I'm very aware of basic geography thanks 👍
 
Brother you hate Israel so much you're trying to justify the existence of North Korea while demonstrating you don't have a clear understanding of what even took place in the Korean war.
Feel free to post examples of me hating Israel lol. Apparently hating Israel includes calling out an ill advised, illegal war with no clear endgame.

And feel free to clear up what inaccuracies I've presented regarding the Korean War. I'm sure it will be in great detail and not just lmao or concession accepted, which appears to be the extent of critical analysis people offer these days.
 
Brother you hate Israel so much you're trying to justify the existence of North Korea while demonstrating you don't have a clear understanding of what even took place in the Korean war.
Yea but Iraq 2003…………right ?
 
That's not really a response to what I said. I'm very aware of basic geography thanks 👍
It doesn’t seem like you are.

Neuter Iran’s nuclear facilities and then do negotiations at the table. The removal of the regime is a can of worms not worth the blood shed of a civil war worse than Iraq.
 
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Feel free to post examples of me hating Israel lol. Apparently hating Israel includes calling out an ill advised, illegal war with no clear endgame.

And feel free to clear up what inaccuracies I've presented regarding the Korean War. I'm sure it will be in great detail and not just lmao or concession accepted, which appears to be the extent of critical analysis people offer these days.

I already did.

Your wrote some fan fiction that a united Korea would somehow bad, while ignoring that in order to unite Korea the US would have had to defeat the Chinese military on the battlefield.

Hope this helps
 
@Rational Poster when you are on the same page as ShadowRunt, you need to re-evaluate your life choices, bro 😭

I mean he's a shithead, but you guys twisting yourself into knots to defend the Iranian regime, and now North Korea apparently, isn't too different from people like him twisting themselves into knots to defend Trump.

If anything it's even more mindboggling to me.
 
I mean he's a shithead, but you guys twisting yourself into knots to defend the Iranian regime, and now North Korea apparently, isn't too different from people like him twisting themselves into knots to defend Trump.

If anything it's even more mindboggling to me.

I’m not defending them. This is like Dick Cheney tier gaslighting…

I’m saying I don’t want to enable a power vacuum and destabilize another country in the Middle East.
 
I already did.

Your wrote some fan fiction that a united Korea would somehow bad, while ignoring that in order to unite Korea the US would have had to defeat the Chinese military on the battlefield.

Hope this helps
1. North Korea could also fall apart due to an internal coup driven by economic challenges and power struggles. This happens to many authoritarian regimes

2. Even if we accept that a unified Korea would only come from a war with China, that clearly would be a worse outcome for the US than the status quo.
I mean he's a shithead, but you guys twisting yourself into knots to defend the Iranian regime, and now North Korea apparently, isn't too different from people like him twisting themselves into knots to defend Trump.

If anything it's even more mindboggling to me.
This is why you, and Trump, suck ass at navigating international relations and diplomacy.

You confuse empathy and understanding another country's interests as sympathy. But component diplomacy requires empathy to understand what your adversary wants, so you can strengthen your hand.

Instead, your stuck as "anyone who criticizes Israel hates Israel."
 
Lol at all the morons thinking Iran will run out of missiles.
They'll probably run out of things to blow up before they run out of missiles.


Speaking at the Weizmann Institute—struck by Iranian missiles earlier this week—Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu described the Iranian government as a threat to regional stability. He also claimed that Iran possesses 28,000 missiles, underscoring the urgency of dismantling its nuclear program. “Our goal is to destroy Iran’s nuclear program, and we have the capabilities to do so,” he added.
 
1. North Korea could also fall apart due to an internal coup driven by economic challenges and power struggles. This happens to many authoritarian regimes

2. Even if we accept that a unified Korea would only come from a war with China, that clearly would be a worse outcome for the US than the status quo.

This is why you, and Trump, suck ass at navigating international relations and diplomacy.

You confuse empathy and understanding another country's interests as sympathy. But component diplomacy requires empathy to understand what your adversary wants, so you can strengthen your hand.

Instead, your stuck as "anyone who criticizes Israel hates Israel."

LMAO

The Korean war was a war with China. The entire reason we stopped at the 38th parallel is because we didn't want to continue fighting a war with China, I suggest you educate yourself further on the conflict before referencing it.
 




The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Rafael Grossi, rejects the notion that his agency and the report it released last month on Iran’s nuclear activities are in any way responsible for triggering Israel’s assault on the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program.

“A report on the nuclear verification in Iran could hardly be a basis for any military action,” Grossi tells CNN’s Anderson Cooper. “Military action, from whomever it comes, is a political decision that has nothing to do with what we’re saying.”

Tehran previously suggested that the report, and the subsequent IAEA declaration that Iran violated its nuclear safeguards obligations, had “prepared the ground” for Israel’s attack.


Grossi notes that much of what was included in the report was “essentially not new,” and that the nuclear watchdog has been warning for years that Iran was refusing to share data on its nuclear activities.

“In that report, I also said that, at this point, we do not have any indication that there is a systemic program in Iran to manufacture a nuclear weapon,” Grossi cautions, stressing that the IAEA only reports on what it can verify itself, and does not engage in speculation.

Asked about the timeline in which Iran could theoretically produce a nuclear weapon, even an extremely crude one, Grossi says it is one thing to have enough enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon — the IAEA report had estimated that Iran had enough uranium, if enriched further, for nine nuclear bombs — but another thing entirely to have a warhead to put it in.

“It’s true that in the early 2000s, there had been some activities which were assessed at that time as related to nuclear weapon development…we are not seeing this now,” he says, adding that, therefore, discussing a timeline would be nothing more than “pure speculation.”

He reiterates, however, that Iran is the only non-nuclear weapon state to be enriching uranium to the level that it is.
 
The point is you don't know what you're talking about and this is way bigger than you can conceptualize.

I feel embarrassed going back and forth with you. It's clear you drank the American FoxNews kool-aid so your world view and dogma is shaped and crystallized by that alone.

Yes Iraq invaded Kuwait. There is so much complexity behind that American response that I'd be wasting my time trying to explain it to you.

What you don't want to hear is in some cases US officials were giving the green light for Saddam to invade. What you dont want to hear is Iraq was a puppet state of the US in that specific time period (to counter Iran's influence).

In conclusion, I'll say that if you supported or fought in the second Iraq war because you felt justified by the actions of the first Iraq war, then I guess you also don't blame Bush Cheney or Netanyahu. And if you don't blame those 3 individuals for the second Iraq war, and the slaughter of millions of people, you are a lost cause.

And if you do blame those individuals, then why the fuck are you trusting Netanyahu or holding him to any credibility when it comes to that region. He can tell you Iran has a nuclear weapon till the cows come home. I don't believe him and neither should you.
Lol? Now it's fox news fault? Amazing lol 😆 🤣
 
LMAO

The Korean war was a war with China. The entire reason we stopped at the 38th parallel is because we didn't want to continue fighting a war with China, I suggest you educate yourself further on the conflict before referencing it.
...When have I said otherwise? You seem to be losing your marbles here.
 
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