International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[DaleBoca]

So President Taco and his famous “We’re a couple weeks away!”

 

[Fox by the Sea]

probably looked at the polling and saw how unpopular getting involved is.

if this is the case, good, it means he looks at public opinion at least.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Trump has said he will allow 2 weeks for diplomacy. Seems like the right move. Unless Israel is right and they use that time to get to 90%.

The right move is to say "we'll help negotiate a cease fire but we aren't sending any of our personnel or assets directly to Iran".

Of course I think its BS to for the US to provide material support. But I would fully expect that either way.

 

[Hog-train]

They have multiple delivery vehicles that we can watch function in real time. Multiple of their ballistic weapons that we can see function right now can be used as delivery vehicles.

You can't make a warhead without the enriched uranium which they've clearly demonstrated they have the ability to manufacture.

You still keep ignoring they are in possession of this uranium despite them agreeing not to obtain it and all of this was months prior to hostilities.

Yet US intelligence disagrees with you. All the spy agencies assessed that Iran had not made a decision to build nuclear weapons and would take a while to do so if they wanted to.

So Trump and Netanyahu's insistence that they are "a few weeks away" from a nuclear weapon is complete horseshit.

And the most disappointing thing is people like you know it. You're just being intellectually dishonest.

Literally the same exact playbook from the 90's getting the US into decades of war.

 

[Sinister]

This is what I don't understand.

How can you be pro- Ukraine and think it's alright for Iran to continue directly support Russia with hundreds of thousands of lethal drones and thousands of ballistic and anti-air missiles. Dozens if not hundreds of Shahed drones are smashing into Ukrainian infrastructure every single day.

The claims of their progress toward nuclear arms could be entirely fabricated (they're not, it has been confirmed by international bodies they are indeed in possession of near weapons grade uranium), stopping them from supporting Russia as means to bring an end to that conflict seems cause enough if you are truly pro-Ukrainian.

I dont like Proxy Wars, however Israel directly attacked Iran. Why? The threshold for direct attacks should be a high burden of proof that direct attack was imminent. We do not have that. And Israel has foregone moral standing due to their engagement in egregious genocide, backed by us.

I'm not buying into WMD narrative just as I didnt buy into it with Hussein. And I will not condone direct attacks on "allies" anymore than I'd condone us bombing Brazil or India because they're part of BRICS. Its retarded. And I've been watching US politicians who I f*ckin hate salivate over the potential for this conflict for more than a decade. This will do little more than create more generational enemies in the region, as the Muslim world tends to despise the US because of the viewpoint that we are Israel's lapdog. All this does is further confirm it, even though this look more like Israel doing our dirty work for us, in exchange for us backing the notion of "Greater Israel." Especially when you consider the viewpoint that THE reason Trump tore up the Iran Nuclear Agreement was at the behest of Netanyahu, who never wanted it in the first place.

 

[Rational Poster]

Yet US intelligence disagrees with you. All the spy agencies assessed that Iran had not made a decision to build nuclear weapons and would take a while to do so if they wanted to.

So Trump and Netanyahu's insistence that they are "a few weeks away" from a nuclear weapon is complete horseshit.

And the most disappointing thing is people like you know it. You're just being intellectually dishonest.

Literally the same exact playbook from the 90's getting the US into decades of war.

lmao

You act like they're just minding their business and doing nothing with 400kg of near weapons grade uranium.

 

[Rational Poster]

I dont like Proxy Wars, however Israel directly attacked Iran. Why? The threshold for direct attacks should be a high burden of proof that direct attack was imminent. We do not have that. And Israel has foregone moral standing due to their engagement in egregious genocide, backed by us.

I'm not buying into WMD narrative just as I didnt buy into it with Hussein. And I will not condone direct attacks on "allies" anymore than I'd condone us bombing Brazil or India because they're part of BRICS. Its retarded. And I've been watching US politicians who I f*ckin hate salivate over the potential for this conflict for more than a decade. This will do little more than create more generational enemies in the region, as the Muslim world tends to despise the US because of the viewpoint that we are Israel's lapdog. All this does is further confirm it, even though this look more like Israel doing our dirty work for us, in exchange for us backing the notion of "Greater Israel." Especially when you consider the viewpoint that THE reason Trump tore up the Iran Nuclear Agreement was at the behest of Netanyahu, who never wanted it in the first place.

I mean this wasn't a response to my question at all and is a bunch of internet word salad.

 

[Sinister]

True. The situation with the Ukraine is far more complicated and goes back to at least the Russian Revolution. Lenin deliberately drew the borders funny to put a bunch of ethnic Russians in what would become the Ukraine, and since then the country has been getting used by both the Soviets/Russia and NATO. The West took full advantage of simmering tensions between Ukraine & Russia to stage a coup and start a proxy war.

There's no innocent parties in that conflict, but I fully admit I hate the Western side more since we helped kick off the latest round of hostilities. But that's getting a bit off topic, we may disagree on some of the details and take different sides on the conflicts, but I think we can both agree that Imperialist power games are the root cause of both.

At least Lenin DID believe that States who no longer wanted to be part of the USSR should be allowed to leave peacefully. That makes him better than the Federalists here were. And is also why Stalin hated him.

And yes, for sure anti-imperialism here.

 

[Sinister]

I mean this wasn't a response to my question at all and is a bunch of internet word salad.

Nice side-step.

If you dont want to conted with how EVERYONE knows I reply to people here, dont bother quoting me. Your question was answered sufficiently, it's not my problem if you didnt like it.

 

[Hog-train]

lmao

You act like they're just minding their business and doing nothing with 400kg of near weapons grade uranium.

Keep gaslighting and saying the same shit. It's not going to change people's minds. Look at the results of the poll and worldwide opinion outside of US media.

I always thought after the Iraq and Afghanistan disasters, there is no fucking way we'd fall for this same Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld trick AGAIN.

But here we are. Same exact warmongering and gaslighting tactics to get us into war.

"ZOMG THEY'RE GONNA GET NUKES!! WE NEED TO UNILATERALLY ATTACK IMMEDIATELY!"

Fuck outta here. No one is falling for the same old retarded lies.

 

[Strychnine]

So President Taco and his famous “We’re a couple weeks away!”

Let's not forget the old favorite, "Stay tuned."

 

[Rational Poster]

Nice side-step.

If you dont want to conted with how EVERYONE knows I reply to people here, dont bother quoting me. Your question was answered sufficiently, it's not my problem if you didnt like it.

Nothing was side-stepped except my question.

 

[Rational Poster]

Keep gaslighting and saying the same shit. It's not going to change people's minds. Look at the results of the poll and worldwide opinion outside of US media.

I always thought after the Iraq and Afghanistan disasters, there is no fucking way we'd fall for this same Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld trick AGAIN.

But here we are. Same warmongering and gaslighting to get us into war.

"ZOMG THEY'RE GONNA GET NUKES!! WE NEED TO UNILATERALLY ATTACK IMMEDIATELY!"

Fuck outta here. No one is falling for the same old retarded lies.

Is the UN lying that Iran is in possession of over 400KG of 60% enriched uranium?

Was Iran lying when they rejected UN pleas to stop enriching and they are going to build new facilities to do it?

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Jason Miller, one of Trump’s top aids, maybe top after Stephen Miller, is saying the rumors about Tulsi are fake news. Tulsi and Trump are completely on the same page.


Edit: here is clip. Says it around 2min mark.

"Both Tulsi (Gabbard) and the president are on the exact same page--they're both saying that Iran is moving at breakneck pace to try to develop or try to enrich uranium needed for nuclear weapons,"

 

[avenue94]

The objective fact is that Iran is in possession of an unprecedented amount and quality of enriched uranium when they should not be and have in the past agreed not to obtain it.

Why does it matter if they have in the past agreed to it? It's moot given the US voided the agreement. It's like claiming an your ex-girlfriend is cheating on you after you dumped her.

 

[Badr Hari]

Respectable figures in Israel I'm reading today writing all kinds of stupid things. One gem "After we are done with Iran, it will be time to target Pakistan's nuclear arsenal" lmao who do they think they are lol and the other gem "after this is over we have to make sure no arab country possesses ballistic missiles" lmao talk about delulu paranoia they think they have to put the whole world in war because their neighbors are moving from the stone age to the bronze age

 

[Hog-train]

Is the UN lying that Iran is in possession of over 400KG of 60% enriched uranium?

Was Iran lying when they rejected UN pleas to stop enriching and they are going to build new facilities to do it?

Why would Iran do that and listen to the UN when they're actively being sanctioned and Trump pulled out of the deal because of Israel? They enriched uranium as a direct result of Trump pulling out of the deal. They would otherwise have zero leverage to get the sanctions taken off.

And it's funny you use the UN in your arguments and completely ignore the UN's pleas for Israel to stop committing war crimes and starving people.

So the UN is correct when they criticize Iran, but 100% wrong and to be completely ignored when they criticize Israel.

 

[avenue94]

They have multiple delivery vehicles that we can watch function in real time. Multiple of their ballistic weapons that we can see function right now can be used as delivery vehicles.

You can't make a warhead without the enriched uranium which they've clearly demonstrated they have the ability to manufacture.

You still keep ignoring they are in possession of this uranium despite them agreeing not to obtain it and all of this was months prior to hostilities.

Which of Iran's current delivery vehicles can support a country's first attempt at a nuclear warhead?

 

[El Panteron]

Got it. You don’t really care about the meaning of words. Just that israel is bad.

And yes, Muslims citizens of Israel have equal rights and freedom to practice their religion.

What the fuck did I just read?
"Yeah I get that about segregation, but have you considered arguing semantics?"
My man is a born redditor

 

[Snubnoze707]

You guys are wasting your time with Irrational Poser. He's best relegated to the ignore list.

If you fall for WMD Redux your opinions are invalid.