International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[kflo]

Weird that the usual anti-Israel /etc crowd are now gaslighting on Iran’s nuclear aspirations and dismissing having near weapons grade enriched uranium. Who’d have thunk it.

You’d have more credibility if you just acknowledged their nuclear aspirations and how close they are to realizing them and just saying you don’t care because Israel has them too. That would be credible. But pretending there’s no evidence Iran is close to having nuclear capability is just a joke.

From there we can even debate the merits of Israel’s offensive campaign. But you guys can’t even acknowledge the basics.

 

[Rational Poster]

Apartheid ended barely 30 years ago, and Israel's assistance in South African proliferation is barely older than that. Trotting out the "that's ancient history argument" is prime facie evidence you can't refute the point.

Russia would still be in this conflict one way or another, there's too much inertia behind it.

You never answered: What evidence is there that Iran has miniaturized nuclear weapons enough to mount on a missile?

Yeah Russia might continue if only because they are stuck in it, but they would be doing it without hundreds of thousands of Iranian drones and missiles.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Tulsi is either extremely stupid or extremely a traitor. She sounds like Sergey Lavrov on her youtube channel.

Can you show that anything she said wasn't true?

 

[avenue94]

Yeah Russia might continue if only because they are stuck in it, but they would be doing it without hundreds of thousands of Iranian drones and missiles.

Still ducking the questions. It sounds like you have no evidence that Iran has a viable nuclear weapons delivery system and are just regurgitating random claims without evidence.

 

[Rational Poster]

Can you show that anything she said wasn't true?

Go to her Youtube channel and take your pick.

 

[avenue94]

But pretending there’s no evidence Iran is close to having nuclear capability is just a joke.

I remember you refusing to answer this question last time I asked. What evidence is there that Iran has the ability to miniaturize nuclear weapons enough to deliver them?

 

[SKYNET]

Well technically Israel isn't really "spending" that much if you consider aid we give them

Are you factoring in the 100K+ millionaires and billionaires that claim citizenship in Israel?

 

[Rational Poster]

Still ducking the questions. It sounds like you have no evidence that Iran has a viable nuclear weapons delivery system and are just regurgitating random claims without evidence.

I haven't ducked any question and even listed multiple Iranian weapon systems capable of housing a nuclear warhead that we already know are operational.

They have tested and functioning delivery systems, they have demonstrated capability of enriching uranium to weapons grade. The only thing they haven't demonstrated is making the warhead itself.

Can you tell me why Iran is only country on earth currently enriching uranium beyond the threshold for civilian nuclear power?

 

[Hog-train]

No I want the Iranian regime to cease to exist so the ancient Persian people can be free. The near 10 million Iranian expats can return to their ancestral homes without fear of being hung to death from a crane on the street for no crime at all. I want the Iranian regime to stop arming Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis and everyone in between so we can actually start working toward peace in the region.

And most importantly I want the Iranian regime to stop arming Russia with hundreds of thousands of lethal munitions to use on the Ukrainian people.

I got you pegged all wrong. You're a great humanitarian! You care so much about the Persian people! And the Palestinians too!

So let's bomb Tehran and Gaza to smithereens. That'll be really good for the people and they'll rise up in a new Arab spring that will usher in a new age of democracy and prosperity.

 

[Rational Poster]

I got you pegged all wrong. You're a great humanitarian! You care so much about the Persian people! And the Palestinians too!

So let's bomb Tehran and Gaza to smithereens. That'll be really good for the people and they'll rise up in a new Arab spring that will usher in a new age of democracy and prosperity.

If not for Iran, Oct 7th wouldn't have even happened. If you actually give a shit about the Palestinians, I don't think you actually do you're more of a reluctant antisemite at this point, you would want Iran out of the picture too.

 

[kflo]

I remember you refusing to answer this question last time I asked. What evidence is there that Iran has the ability to miniaturize nuclear weapons enough to deliver them?

I remember you refusing to address why Iran has near weapons grade enriched uranium, nor acknowledging that there’s no ability to inspect what else they have been doing while they are enriching uranium. How many years have they been operating with no oversight now?

It’s comical to try and pretend it’s likely all they are doing is enriching uranium to weapons grade. For kicks.

 

[avenue94]

I haven't ducked any question and even listed multiple Iranian weapon systems capable of housing a nuclear warhead that we already know are operational.

They have tested and functioning delivery systems, they have demonstrated capability of enriching uranium to weapons grade. The only thing they haven't demonstrated is making the warhead itself.

Making a warhead is very different from making a warhead that is small enough and robust enough to fit on a missile. Most nuclear powers couldn't get it done on their first try, or even second try.

Are you arguing that Iran has better engineering capabilities than significantly larger and better funded countries?

Making a warhead is the hardest part, the engineering challenge of nuclear weapons far exceeds the scientific challenge.

Can you tell me why Iran is only country on earth currently enriching uranium beyond the threshold for civilian nuclear power?

Sure, it's a bargaining chip for negotiations with the US. Same reason South Africa had nuclear weapons.

 

[avenue94]

remember you refusing to address why Iran has near weapons grade enriched uranium, nor acknowledging that there’s no ability to inspect what else they have been doing while they are enriching uranium. How many years have they been operating with no oversight now?

I responded because it's a useful bargaining chip with the US.

And you tell me, how many years has it been since the US voided the JCPOA?

It’s comical to try and pretend it’s likely all they are doing is enriching uranium to weapons grade. For kicks.

Which I have never said. You keep hallucinating.

 

[MrShady]

If not for Iran, Oct 7th wouldn't have even happened. If you actually give a shit about the Palestinians, I don't think you actually do you're more of a reluctant antisemite at this point, you would want Iran out of the picture too.

Sure. Also,

If not for Netanyahu, Oct 7th wouldn't have even happened.

Can we bomb him too now?

 

[Hog-train]

If not for Iran, Oct 7th wouldn't have even happened. If you actually give a shit about the Palestinians, I don't think you actually do you're more of a reluctant antisemite at this point, you would want Iran out of the picture too.

If you care about human beings, you wouldn't want ANOTHER regime change war in the Middle East. Because that's what you're ultimately arguing for.

The fact of the matter is, Trump could have easily just agreed to do a another JCPOA deal, call it "Trump's peace deal with Iran" and literally none of this would have happened. Iran would have readily agreed and allowed IAEA inspectors in again.

But you, Trump and Israel just wants a regime change war.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I remember you refusing to address why Iran has near weapons grade enriched uranium, nor acknowledging that there’s no ability to inspect what else they have been doing while they are enriching uranium.

Has israel's nuclear program been inspected by the IAEA?
If no, why not?

How many years have they been operating with no oversight now?

What oversight has there been over the israel nuclear program?

It’s comical to try and pretend it’s likely all they are doing is enriching uranium to weapons grade. For kicks.

What quantities of enriched uranium does israel have? Why does it have it?

 

[Rational Poster]

Making a warhead is very different from making a warhead that is small enough and robust enough to fit on a missile. Most nuclear powers couldn't get it done on their first try, or even second try.

Are you arguing that Iran has better engineering capabilities than significantly larger and better funded countries?

Making a warhead is the hardest part, the engineering challenge of nuclear weapons far exceeds the scientific challenge.

Sure, it's a bargaining chip for negotiations with the US. Same reason South Africa had nuclear weapons.

This is just silly at this point. lmao

They're making weapons grade uranium to bargain for what? Missile strikes on their territory to stop them from doing it?

 

[Rational Poster]

Sure. Also,

If not for Netanyahu, Oct 7th wouldn't have even happened.

Can we bomb him too now?

That's a pretty silly statement and obviously not true.

 

[Rational Poster]

If you care about human beings, you wouldn't want ANOTHER regime change war in the Middle East. Because that's what you're ultimately arguing for.

The fact of the matter is, Trump could have easily just agreed to do a another JCPOA deal, call it "Trump's peace deal with Iran" and literally none of this would have happened. Iran would have readily agreed.

But you, Trump and Israel just wants a regime change war.

Trump was negotiating with Iran for 60 days and they came to no agreement.

I don't want war or regime change, but if the powers that be are going to do it I can think of no better place than Iran.

 

[Fury]

Israel gonna be twiddling their thumbs lol

"He does not want to go if there can be peace"

There was this peace then something interrupted it. Was it Iran attacking America.... No