International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[Deorum]

excellent points

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I mean there's elements of truth in the report as well, her personal framing of it is what likely differs from the experts who did the work for it.

How do you know it does?

And her personal framing is certainly influenced by Russia based on all the bullshit she's put out on her own social media over the years.

This isn't a serious argument. When you get to be director of national intelligence they vet you. this is just something people that don't like her say.

There is no reason to enrich uranium to the level we know they have been for civilian reactors. Period.

sure.

You can be against military intervention and still be honest that Iran is trying to develop weapons grade uranium.

It's probably because Israel has them?
The North Korea example will be the future. I expect Turkey to get one in the decades to follow.

but i see no evidence that iran was like "weeks away" from having a bomb, or whatever horseshit bibi has been selling for decades now.

 

[Whippy McGee]

Nice bit of historical amnesia. Iran sent 140 missiles, not 1,000, it was in April, not October, and it was in DIRECT RESPONSE to Israel killing the Iranian Consulate and several other senior military figures the week prior.

In typical fashion, Israel attempts to play victim after a provocation, and half wits eat it up.

You must have amnesia. It was October 1, 2024 and was the largest missile strike on Israel to that date.

Who do you think funded Hamas and Hezbollah and their attacks against Israeli citizens? Iran's war machine funded by Barack Obama and Democrats.

 

[Rational Poster]

How do you know it does?

This isn't a serious argument. When you get to be director of national intelligence they vet you. this is just something people that don't like her say.

sure.

It's probably because Israel has them?
The North Korea example will be the future. I expect Turkey to get one in the decades to follow.

but i see no evidence that iran was like "weeks away" from having a bomb, or whatever horseshit bibi has been selling for decades now.

Glad you can finally admit at least that Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons, unlike Tulsi.

 

[F1980]

The more I think about it, I think Trump is just bluffing to push Iran to surrender. On the Rogan podcast, I remember him talking about bringing Bolton and letting other warhawks go under the media spotlight when he was dealing with North Korea.

If I'm proven right, I am going to bump this. So far, I havent seen a single poster come to this same conclusion, so if I'm right, I'll be the ONLY ONE I've seen with this theory.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Glad you can finally admit at least that Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons, unlike Tulsi.

yes, me saying iran is nowhere near a bomb is proof of ....what exactly?
you think israel would give up its bombs if iran stops its nuclear program?
how about that solution? it's non-proliferation.

 

[ShadowRun]

how would the director of national intelligence know? really? and it was march.

Then after that Trump started the hard 60 day negotiation why is that? They put the program in overdrive and got closer then over . At some point what do you do ?

 

[ShadowRun]

yes, me saying iran is nowhere near a bomb is proof of ....what exactly?
you think israel would give up its bombs is iran stops its nuclear program?
how about that solution? it's non-proliferation.

Israel don’t surpress its citizens , fund major terrorism and yell death to America . You want to say their war tactics are unethical that’s fine , they are not the same .

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Then after that Trump started the hard 60 day negotiation why is that? They put the program in overdrive and got closer then over .

who says they did that? bibi?
he's been saying this for like 20 years
how can anyone believe him?

 

[Rational Poster]

yes, me saying iran is nowhere near a bomb is proof of ....what exactly?
you think israel would give up its bombs if iran stops its nuclear program?
how about that solution? it's non-proliferation.

But that's just an incorrect statement. Iran is already capable of enriching nuclear materials far past what is required for civilian use and the delivery vehicles are on full display crashing into Israeli territory.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

But that's just an incorrect statement. Iran is already capable of enriching nuclear materials far past what is required for civilian use and the delivery vehicles are on full display crashing into Israeli territory.

So how about a plan where both Israel and Iran give up their nuclear program, fissile material and whatever projectiles they have.

this sounds reasonable, no?

 

[Rational Poster]

So how about a plan where both Israel and Iran give up their nuclear program, fissile material and whatever projectiles they have.

this sounds reasonable, no?

I think we're a bit past that sort of diplomacy kiddo.

 

[aerius]

Thanks, Sherbro. I'm just interested in learning in general. There are a small handful of topics in which people could tell me very little, and this is not one of them. I've been asking questions in earnest since the start of the thread because there's a ton that I don't know or could be flat out wrong about. A lot of people tend to double down or get angry when confronted with the latter, but I don't mind at all.

It's always fun when you start putting the pieces together isn't it? The shadow war of Mossad networks vs. Iranian counter-intelligence is freakin' wild, and in some ways even more interesting than the missiles & bombings. Mossad has a seriously sophisticated and well hidden network of sabotage groups with a full logistics & intel network to support them, yet Iran was able to find them and start rolling them up only a couple days after the initial attack even while a bunch of Iranian military & intelligence leaders were getting whacked. This points to some pretty serious counter-intel capabilities for Iran, they may have been complacent before the attacks but they're doing a pretty good job right now.

 

[The XL]

You don't need to enrich nuclear material past 4% for civilian nuclear power. Iran has been enriching uranium to over 60%

There is no reason to attempt to enrich beyond that point other than to practice enriching weapons grade uranium. Step one to making a bomb is enriching uranium to a certain quality.

If Tulsi is saying nothing to see here, that's her Russian handlers speaking.

You're still peddling this Russian influence nonsense when it's out in the open that Israel owns just about every inch of American politics lmao. You're such a goof.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I think we're a bit past that sort of diplomacy kiddo.

Not if AMERICA would step in with the proposal.
What an act of global leadership that would be.

 

[kflo]

yeah, I remember those big bad nasty nukes Saddam had, maybe you aren't old enough to remember that shitshow in 2003. I remember Netanyahu saying he had them back then, too. I remember Netanyahu saying Iran has had nukes for like the last 25 years.

It isn’t bibi saying Iran has enriched uranium that is approaching weapons grade. Again, why would one develop weapons grade uranium?

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Gonna be interesting to see how they spin things to try & bring the public onboard.

Guys, don't forget that the Dems are the party of war mongers now

 

[Rational Poster]

You're still peddling this Russian influence nonsense when it's out in the open that Israel owns just about every inch of American politics lmao. You're such a goof.

If you think the Russian state isn't spending more to influence global politics than the small state of Israel you're a mark at this point.

 

[calavera2]

It has been watching MAGA go from no wars and saying Old Man Biden will start World War 3 to now cool with attacking Iran.
Most of MAGA will submit to whatever Trump does. They are not critical thinkers and will feel whatever way their Dear Leader tells them. I never thought I would see so many Americans being so submissive. Our forefathers are spinning in their graves.

None of this is surprising....it's been pointed as nauseum that the maga movement is built off a personality cult that is underpinned by the idea of racial victimhood... principles need not apply

 

[degoj99]

So how about a plan where both Israel and Iran give up their nuclear program, fissile material and whatever projectiles they have.

this sounds reasonable, no?

No. Israel would like to be left alone. Iran has vowed genocide against Israel. Moreover, Iran's current leadership would like to attack the US and Europe. They are open about this. Israel is doing the world a favor by attacking Iran now. Moreover, hopefully enough damage is done to the group of psychotic old men running Iran that the country can move forward with decent people in leadership. This would benefit Iranians as well as everybody else except North Korea and Greta Thunberg.