International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[Misanthropist]

 

[High Test With da Best]

But it was God who spoke to Bush and told him to invade Iraq

One of our finest moments...

 

[Deleted member 592570]

i love how you're convinced that for those mesmerized by Trump

You love a lot of shit you made up in your own head

 

[Siver!]

What difference would this make? Israel has already communicated this implictly and expliclty in the past several decades. It's also entertained the possibility of nuking allies and neutral countries as blackmail if it faces national destruction.

Israel fundamentally can't admit they have nuclear weapons without opening a major can of worms. Namely the continued imprisonment of a whistle blower they abducted from the UK years ago and put in house arrest like a petty junta. It would also lead to NPT problems.

It can't have explicitly said it will use nuclear weapons if it hasn't explicitly admitted to having them.

It should, but if it did so it would contravene international law.

 

[Protectandserve]

I’d be absolutely for impeachment if he gets US Troops involved in Iran.

I didn’t vote for him and have been pretty much blah on his dumb actions so far but, fuck man… we don’t need another Great Patriotic War in the Desert…

 

[oldshadow]

What difference would this make? Israel has already communicated this implictly and expliclty in the past several decades. It's also entertained the possibility of nuking allies and neutral countries as blackmail if it faces national destruction.

Israel fundamentally can't admit they have nuclear weapons without opening a major can of worms. Namely the continued imprisonment of a whistle blower they abducted from the UK years ago and put in house arrest like a petty junta. It would also lead to NPT problems.

It would make very clear what they would do.

You are talking the Sampson option. Where they would destroy themselves and take everyone with them if the are over run. Basically MAD which is what all nuclear powers have.

 

[HereticBD]

I'm an imbecile that has destroyed anything you have tried to say on multiple fronts for years. You are never right, about ANYTHING, lmao. It must get old being wrong all the fucking time eh?

Said the guy thinking this will lead to Trump being removed as President. LOL.

You're a child.

PS: The Senate doesn't bring articles of Impeachment. That would be the House. Are you sure you're American? This Canadian is schooling you pretty bad.

 

[Versez]

If the US strikes then comes out and provides proof of an imminent nuclear weapon from Iran, would that make anyone feel better?

That is just about the only thing that would make it OK for me.. and I do not think that is what will happen.

2003 all over again …

 

[Deorum]

 

[oldshadow]

Double

 

[avenue94]

I think you have an interpretation issue my man. I never once indicated what you said - I’m not framing in that way at all LOL

You said we've stopped Iran from getting a bomb. Are you claiming you didn't say that? That's a core misinterpretation of what has transpired.

Are you arguing that Iran, a theocracy run by an Ayatollah who says he god speaks to him, is a great candidate to become a nuclear power?

We live in America, a country where Trump insists God saved him from assassins. You sure you want to go down the god talks to people road?

I'm arguing that the prospect of a nuclear Iran must be weighed against the alternative Israel is proposing: a full blown regional war that will likely spur Iran to develop nukes faster as deterrance and destablize the region and lead to huge economic costs.

Israel isn't serious about regime change, that's just PR spin.

You love a lot of shit you made up in your own head

All three points I named are objective facts. I'm sorry they pop the reality distortion sphere you live in.

It can't have explicitly said it will use nuclear weapons if it hasn't explicitly admitted to having them.

It should, but if it did so it would contravene international law.

Yup. And like I said, opens up a huge can of worms for Israel.

 

[avenue94]

It would make very clear what they would do.

You are talking the Sampson option. Where they would destroy themselves and take everyone with them if the are over run. Basically MAD which is what all nuclear powers have.

Is anyone not clear what Israel would do with its nukes? You're arguing the equivalent of Israel announcing water is wet. It's not a revelation.

And no MAD targets the adversary who attacked you. That's very different from the Sampson option. You're wrongly equating the equivalent of self defense (or revenge) and blowing up a car bomb inat a packed school that never did anything to you.

 

[aerius]

Yeaaaah they’re definitely at least game planning strikes on Iran right now…

Last 2 pieces of the puzzle are the USS Nimitz battle group which is currently in the Malacca Straits and the nuclear "sniffer" plane that's flying over the mid-west US. Assuming Nimitz does about 20 knots so its escorts don't run out of fuel, it will arrive in the area in about 5 days. I think that's about as early as they can start something big unless they're willing to send in the B-2s by themselves.

 

[Siver!]

Good for China.

Now they need to warn ALL ISRAELIS TO LEAVE JERUSALEM and Trump will shit his pants.

 

[oldshadow]

Is anyone not clear what Israel would do with its nukes? You're arguing the equivalent of Israel announcing water is wet. It's not a revelation.

And no MAD targets the adversary who attacked you. That's very different from the Sampson option. You're wrongly equating the equivalent of self defense (or revenge) and blowing up a car bomb inat a packed school that never did anything to you.

Do you actually think any country with nuclear weapons would allow themselves to be over run.

 

[b34stmode]

Said the guy thinking this will lead to Trump being removed as President. LOL.

You're a child.

PS: The Senate doesn't bring articles of Impeachment. That would be the House. Are you sure you're American? This Canadian is schooling you pretty bad.

Yes, if we actively start bombing Iran with zero congressional approval and lose military assets, there is a very real chance he will be impeached. Weren't you one of the people saying this would never happen 3-4 days ago?

 

[Cherry Brigand]

Worst case scenario - The US underestimates Iran as much as Israel appears to have done and gets its strike force obliterated by Iranian, Chinese, and Russian weapons systems which have been pre-placed in Iran and Yemen in case of a US attack. That might be enough of a disaster for the US or Israel to panic and hit the shiny red nuke button.

That's ridiculous.

 

[Cherry Brigand]

If the US strikes then comes out and provides proof of an imminent nuclear weapon from Iran, would that make anyone feel better?

That is just about the only thing that would make it OK for me.. and I do not think that is what will happen.

Just like we did with WMDs!

 

[aerius]

That's ridiculous.

Israel getting its shit wrecked by Iranian missiles was also ridiculous 3 days ago.

 

[HereticBD]

Yes, if we actively start bombing Iran with zero congressional approval and lose military assets, there is a very real chance he will be impeached.

By whom? The republican controlled House? And that's just the first step.

Go dream about breasts you'll never touch. That at least has a chance at being reality.