International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[TankAbbott4Eva]

I think it’s because we’ve all seen how Iraq went for the same lie.

The cocksucker Netanyahu said taking out saddam would be amazing for the region before he goaded Bush into doing it and false flagged 9/11. We all saw how Iraq went.

You think 9/11 was a false flag?

 

[Deleted member 592570]

It's the parliamentary system. They just have more hands in the pie to force a vote on such a matter. In the US, it's impeachment and removal by the House and Senate, which is usually, if not always, divided enough to never make it happen. Impeachment is easy. Conviction and removal is damn near impossible.

Anyways, people thinking this will be some kind of action that forces Trump out, are delusional. Risky political move for sure, but he ain't going anywhere, regardless.

This is the least risky thing he can do. The entire deep state will be on his side during this

 

[USA!USA!]

Not really, it'd still be an illegal war unlikely to accomplish the goal of preventing Iran from going nuclear. Not to mention the economic disruption.

They have prevented it from happening up until this point.. I’m not sure why you don’t think they can continue to prevent it.

 

[Chules]

You think 9/11 was a false flag?

You think it wasn’t ?

 

[USA!USA!]

only if the same americunt vermin who come here and say 'it doesn't matter if Ukraine has nukes (under U$raeil control) all along Russias border because nukes don't matter because nobody can use them anyway because of the consequences lol' also admit that your enemies having nukes actually does matter a lot and is a strong justification for war.

(and even then: no because fuck U$rael)

Surely this isn’t directed at me LMAO

 

[The XL]

I disagree. They are a danger now to the region even without one. That will only embolden them. I don’t think it’s a good idea to let them have one in their current government situation (which is a theocracy.. yuck)

It's not ideal but it's preferable to starting a war over it. Iran would never nuke America with extreme provocation because they'd cease to exist within 30 seconds of it.

 

[HereticBD]

I sure hope not. But consider this, suppose the US loses its entire fleet of B-2s plus a carrier battle group trying to hit Iran, would be so sure that Donny Dingleberry wouldn't push the button?

You think the US would need a nuke to defeat Iran, under any circumstance? C'mon now. Don't let your hate turn yourself into a cartoon character.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

When has he lost his base before?

Covid/the vaccine

 

[HereticBD]

This is the least risky thing he can do.

Nah, that's the ICE raids. This one is pretty risky.

The entire deep state will be on his side during this.

You still need to keep people happy. Personally, I don't think anyone would give a shit about something like air support, but if it turns into a ground assault, that's where it gets messy.

 

[USA!USA!]

It's not ideal but it's preferable to starting a war over it. Iran would never nuke America with extreme provocation because they'd cease to exist within 30 seconds of it.

Again.. theocracy.. who is to say the Ayatollah doesn’t just wake up one day and decide it’s time for everyone to meet Allah

 

[Hog-train]

He'll lose a good chunk of his base, but he'll gain support from all the piece of shit warhawks in the government which is basically everyone.

The fucked up shit is: a lot of the warhawks comes from both the Dems and the GOP. Both sides get massive money from AIPAC and other Jewish lobbies.

Also, even if the US actually starts bombing, Iran will not fall unless they put actual boots on the ground. Regimes never fall from just bombing.

So if the US gets involved militarily, there's a high chance they're putting US soldier boots on the ground.

Be ready for a massive media push to justify attacking Iran.

We haven’t seen a single shred of evidence of Iran using its air force at all. Why is that?

Their air force sucks. Their best jet fighter is from the 70's - the F-14 Tomcat. Iran primarily relies on ground to air missiles.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

You think it wasn’t ?

I think it wasn't, IMO it wasn't an inside job, but Bush certainly used it as leverage to bomb the fuck out of the Middle East.

 

[b34stmode]

You think the US would need a nuke to defeat Iran, under any circumstance? C'mon now. Don't let your hate turn yourself into a cartoon character.

If Trump loses any military assets in bombing aura without congressional approval he will be impeached and kicked out of office, and go down as a horrible President from views on both sides. One of the main reasons people voted for him was to MAGA. Starting wars in the Middle East is the direct opposite of MAGA.

 

[Phisher]

People on CNN and fox now arguing why the US must bomb Iran. What has this Country came to? What in the actual fuck?

Those "news" stations are owned and/or funded by defense contractors.

They're vehicles for straight up imperialist propaganda on both sides.

 

[UberHere]

Why are you acting like this happened overnight? This has been going on for decades.

They were doing that on Glen Beck 20 years ago. No idea what rock he crawled out from under.

 

[HereticBD]

If Trump loses any military assets in bombing aura without congressional approval he will be impeached and kicked out of office

LOL, just shut up. You're an imbecile.

Do you even understand how the impeachment process works? He's not getting removed by impeachment over supporting an ally in war. Certainly not with a majority Senate. Go touch some grass.

 

[Siver!]

You still need to keep people happy. Personally, I don't think anyone would give a shit about something like air support, but if it turns into a ground assault, that's where it gets messy.

You gave a good account of the parliamentary system and why it's more effective at removing inadequate leaders from power than the system the US has.

Let's say the US does actually engage in a ground assault on Iran (less than 1 % probability IMO, honestly), what would you define the ensuing "mess" as?

Presidency-threatening, a bit of in-fighting, or 3 years of good ol' fashioned debate?

 

[Chules]

 

[avenue94]

They have prevented it from happening up until this point.. I’m not sure why you don’t think they can continue to prevent it.

You're framing of this issue is backwards. Israel hasn't prevented nuclear development, it's more Iran hasn't wanted them bad enough to commit the resources needed to shorten the timeline while facing roadblocks from the US and Iran.

There are only four countries in the world that have given up their nuclear weapons. None of them were the result of military power, all required diplomacy and concessions. Are you disputing what the historical record is quite lear on?

TLDR: Scientists and equipment can be replaced with time and money.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

LOL, just shut up. You're an imbecile.

Do you even understand how the impeachment process works? He's not getting removed by impeachment over supporting an ally in war. Certainly not with a majority Senate. Go touch some grass.

The majority isn't even important. This is israel we're talking about.