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I see izzy peppering costa and win by UD
costa will have his moments ala Gastelum
costa will have his moments ala Gastelum
Israel Adesanya's Absolute Destruction Of Costa Will Be The Most Ruthless Beatdown Ever Witnessed
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I think people underestimate Costa's durability and intelligence. Izzy could win via decision, because both of them are gonna be careful. Izzy gonna be trashed again for acting like a gazella and not engaging enough.
I do see Costa putting him away if he's able to corner Adesany or take him down, GnP him
I do see Costa putting him away if he's able to corner Adesany or take him down, GnP him
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I want it to be Costa putting Israel to sleep but unfortunately I won't get any nice things so it will be Israel WISELY getting on his bicycle and keeping some distance from Costa's fists.
It's going to be a disappointing Decision win for Israel. bah.
It's going to be a disappointing Decision win for Israel. bah.
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Costa will lose because there is no complexity to his game. He's a straight forward high volume, high pressure, brawler, who throws semi-decent punches and has everyone creaming themselves cause he goes to the body under specific conditions.
He relies on his output and resilience to get him through fights. As Gilbert Melendez pointed out for those ESPN breakdowns, Costa meets power with power, meaning he doesn't mind getting hit in order for him to hit you. He's confident in his physical abilities (being a bully in the cage) which is why he doesn't develop his game much. This mentality, along with his simple game, and high output, will be his undoing.
This guy was tailor made for Izzy.
1) Israel has fought plenty of guys like this in Kickboxing:
If higher level strikers, who actually employ traps, use nuanced combinations, and have pure striking experience couldn't put Izzy out (sans Perriera) how is a basic striker like Paulo going to do it? He isn't the boxer some of you claim he is, far from it.
Those "body punches" everyone loses their mind about? Paulo mostly only uses them when he has you trapped against the cage, otherwise he's head hunting and eating shots. How is a low level cage cutter like Costa going to trap Israel? You guys clown on Izzy for resetting to the center ("running"), it's an intelligent tactic and Paulo won't have Israel's back against the cage because of this and Izzy's lateral movement.
2) Paulo is not defensively responsible:
Back to Melendez, Costa meets power with power. He takes one to give one. He randomly uses head movement and it isn't to set him up for counter strikes, it's just kind of something he does. His defensive footwork in non existent. He throws a lot of shots, willing to take what's coming back at him. He hasn't fought any polished strikers who can make him pay for this yet. Izzy will counter Costa comfortably all night as he marches forward, unable to cut off Izzy with his obvious footwork and round kicks.
This is the same guy who was struggling with an undisciplined striker in Uriah Hall. Uriah Hall finally decided to pump a jab and he was tagging Costa at will, busting his face up. Hall being more worried about being some Tekken fighter, wasn't defensively sound, and went punch for punch with Costa. Basically fought Costas fight, and succumbed to the pressure. Not to mention he a fighter who famously folds. Israel is neither of those things and he's a much more disciplined and nuanced striker.
3) Paulo is very basic, obvious:
There is no nuance to Paulo's game, hes able to land so much because he's willing to eat shots. His offense is limited and obvious. Though his punches are tighter than many fighters, he tenses up with all his strikes, making his offense extremely obvious for seasoned strikers.
Izzy will let Paulo attempt to march him down, while peppering him jabs to the nose and chin, capitalizing on his openings with quick counters, and utilizing his footwork and lateral movement to avoid the cage. Once Costa starts breathing from his mouth early in the third, Israel will turn it up, diversify his offense, and put him out.
Of course Costa coming in with a grappling heavy gameplan would make this fight look completely different. Should Costa come out the way he usually does, I envision the fight going similar to what I summarized above.
There you go I played my hand. No one who has called me on being confident about my pick has done this. It's a lot easier to build an argument when someone has already presented something. I'm so confident Izzy is going to put this guy down that I don't mind it. Come at shersheep.
He relies on his output and resilience to get him through fights. As Gilbert Melendez pointed out for those ESPN breakdowns, Costa meets power with power, meaning he doesn't mind getting hit in order for him to hit you. He's confident in his physical abilities (being a bully in the cage) which is why he doesn't develop his game much. This mentality, along with his simple game, and high output, will be his undoing.
This guy was tailor made for Izzy.
1) Israel has fought plenty of guys like this in Kickboxing:
If higher level strikers, who actually employ traps, use nuanced combinations, and have pure striking experience couldn't put Izzy out (sans Perriera) how is a basic striker like Paulo going to do it? He isn't the boxer some of you claim he is, far from it.
Those "body punches" everyone loses their mind about? Paulo mostly only uses them when he has you trapped against the cage, otherwise he's head hunting and eating shots. How is a low level cage cutter like Costa going to trap Israel? You guys clown on Izzy for resetting to the center ("running"), it's an intelligent tactic and Paulo won't have Israel's back against the cage because of this and Izzy's lateral movement.
2) Paulo is not defensively responsible:
Back to Melendez, Costa meets power with power. He takes one to give one. He randomly uses head movement and it isn't to set him up for counter strikes, it's just kind of something he does. His defensive footwork in non existent. He throws a lot of shots, willing to take what's coming back at him. He hasn't fought any polished strikers who can make him pay for this yet. Izzy will counter Costa comfortably all night as he marches forward, unable to cut off Izzy with his obvious footwork and round kicks.
This is the same guy who was struggling with an undisciplined striker in Uriah Hall. Uriah Hall finally decided to pump a jab and he was tagging Costa at will, busting his face up. Hall being more worried about being some Tekken fighter, wasn't defensively sound, and went punch for punch with Costa. Basically fought Costas fight, and succumbed to the pressure. Not to mention he a fighter who famously folds. Israel is neither of those things and he's a much more disciplined and nuanced striker.
3) Paulo is very basic, obvious:
There is no nuance to Paulo's game, hes able to land so much because he's willing to eat shots. His offense is limited and obvious. Though his punches are tighter than many fighters, he tenses up with all his strikes, making his offense extremely obvious for seasoned strikers.
Izzy will let Paulo attempt to march him down, while peppering him jabs to the nose and chin, capitalizing on his openings with quick counters, and utilizing his footwork and lateral movement to avoid the cage. Once Costa starts breathing from his mouth early in the third, Israel will turn it up, diversify his offense, and put him out.
Of course Costa coming in with a grappling heavy gameplan would make this fight look completely different. Should Costa come out the way he usually does, I envision the fight going similar to what I summarized above.
There you go I played my hand. No one who has called me on being confident about my pick has done this. It's a lot easier to build an argument when someone has already presented something. I'm so confident Izzy is going to put this guy down that I don't mind it. Come at shersheep.
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To you, perhaps.
You've done a good job proving that your opinions cant be trusted from day 1.
Look at how absurdly off you've been about me.
Now imagine thinking someone like this has any credibility whatsoever.
Like I said, for someone who is smoke and mirrors as you seem to think, you'd think you would have no issue whatsoever absolutely schooling me at every turn. We've been involved in like a dozen debates at this point.
You train with werdum right, bro?
But no.
Far from it.
You havent exactly done a good job validating that you are a voice of knowledge, wisdom and experience
couldnt even tell the difference between you and the average shitty mma fan when we first met, what does that tell you? You come off as basic in thought and energy.
You are attempting to assert superiority with statements like you've made in this thread. Which is fine. Do what you want, exist by your illusions.
However, theres one issue.. you would THINK that if you operate on such an implied pedestal, you would have made me to look foolish on countless occasions without much effort.
But it seems like you struggle with and are too quick to withdraw from every discussion I've seen you involved in.
Knowledge and wisdom that is visibly and thus undeniable is one thing. But I feel we prove ourselves at every moment of every day with every word uttered. It SHOULD be transparent, regardless of what you physically see.
Apparently not to you though.
Just like you've proven yourself to be basic in thought throughout the time I've known you, it has been proven one more than one occasion that your opinion on character is shallow and small minded.
I hope that when a video is posted you do a genuine examination on your blatant lack in ability to read others.
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We are known by our fruit.
We prove ourselves and give clear examples of how we think and see this reality at every moment.
In the land of the blind, any level of stray from the average is not hard to recognize.
As I've said, you have made it clear, your ability to see truth and recognize character is painfully lacking.
When we first met, I couldnt even tell the difference between you and the average short sighted, unthinking mma fan.
What does that tell you?
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Good analysis but that said , we’ve seen numerous times more “ technical , pretty , setting traps “ former kickboxers turned mma fighters get flatlined in 4 oz gloves . Lil Gastelum who pretty much just boxes , gave Iz all he can handle and made him brawl . Good pressure fighters can force you to play their game especially with takedown threat . I got costa by 4 th round tko via ground . He’s gonna threaten takedown more and throw off Ozzys game with it .Costa will lose because there is no complexity to his game. He's a straight forward high volume, high pressure, brawler, who throws semi-decent punches and has everyone creaming themselves cause he goes to the body under specific conditions.
He relies on his output and resilience to get him through fights. As Gilbert Melendez pointed out for those ESPN breakdowns, Costa meets power with power, meaning he doesn't mind getting hit in order for him to hit you. He's confident in his physical abilities (being a bully in the cage) which is why he doesn't develop his game much. This mentality, along with his simple game, and high output, will be his undoing.
This guy was tailor made for Izzy.
1) Israel has fought plenty of guys like this in Kickboxing:
If higher level strikers, who actually employ traps, use nuanced combinations, and have pure striking experience couldn't put Izzy out (sans Perriera) how is a basic striker like Paulo going to do it? He isn't the boxer some of you claim he is, far from it.
Those "body punches" everyone loses their mind about? Paulo mostly only uses them when he has you trapped against the cage, otherwise he's head hunting and eating shots. How is a low level cage cutter like Costa going to trap Israel? You guys clown on Izzy for resetting to the center ("running"), it's an intelligent tactic and Paulo won't have Israel's back against the cage because of this and Izzy's lateral movement.
2) Paulo is not defensively responsible:
Back to Melendez, Costa meets power with power. He takes one to give one. He randomly uses head movement and it isn't to set him up for counter strikes, it's just kind of something he does. His defensive footwork in non existent. He throws a lot of shots, willing to take what's coming back at him. He hasn't fought any polished strikers who can make him pay for this yet. Izzy will counter Costa comfortably all night as he marches forward, unable to cut off Izzy with his obvious footwork and round kicks.
This is the same guy who was struggling with an undisciplined striker in Uriah Hall. Uriah Hall finally decided to pump a jab and he was tagging Costa at will, busting his face up. Hall being more worried about being some Tekken fighter, wasn't defensively sound, and went punch for punch with Costa. Basically fought Costas fight, and succumbed to the pressure. Not to mention he a fighter who famously folds. Israel is neither of those things and he's a much more disciplined and nuanced striker.
3) Paulo is very basic, obvious:
There is no nuance to Paulo's game, hes able to land so much because he's willing to eat shots. His offense is limited and obvious. Though his punches are tighter than many fighters, he tenses up with all his strikes, making his offense extremely obvious for seasoned strikers.
Izzy will let Paulo attempt to march him down, while peppering him jabs to the nose and chin, capitalizing on his openings with quick counters, and utilizing his footwork and lateral movement to avoid the cage. Once Costa starts breathing from his mouth early in the third, Israel will turn it up, diversify his offense, and put him out.
Of course Costa coming in with a grappling heavy gameplan would make this fight look completely different. Should Costa come out the way he usually does, I envision the fight going similar to what I summarized above.
There you go I played my hand. No one who has called me on being confident about my pick has done this. It's a lot easier to build an argument when someone has already presented something. I'm so confident Izzy is going to put this guy down that I don't mind it. Come at shersheep.
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I mean Costa doesn't have the best pecs game, but he is really being outshone by Izzy and Bobby in the chest department here.
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I don't think so. Israel had big problems with Kelvin in the striking departement and Kelvin ain't no Paolo Costa. Besides, Paolo ate Yoel's punches so he is able to take a punch.
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Thank you for your measured response.
Since there are so many examples of former technical/pretty kickboxers getting flatlined, can you give me three examples? I don't think you guys give Kelvin enough credit as a boxer, he was going to flatline Rob too.
From a tactics perspective, Kelvin is far superior to Costa, he's just a little guy. Prior to making his initial run at MW, he openly stated he was worried about facing the bigger guys at MW (Chris, Luke) just due to their size. Fast forward to 2020, Kelvin dropped every Middleweight he faced with the exception of Till.
Kelvin has good footwork, punching mechanics, instincts, head movement, and he works behind a jab. Things Costa is lacking in his game, that if he had, I'd probably pick him over Izzy TBH.
I agree with your closing statement (not going as far as saying Izzy will lose), grappling can complicate things. I stated this in my analysis.
You're right, from a tactics perspective, Kelvin is much better than Costa.
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True
Izzy is an exception to most kickboxers though.
He doesnt rely on the gloves for defense and has a heavy emphasis on utilizing his head movement and feet to mitigate damage.
Kelvin looked like he was having more success than he actually was I feel. Outside of the surprise head kick. But if you watch a bit more closely, he was barely hitting him with anything clean at all.
Kelvin is also someone capable of playing that sort of chess match with Adesanya. Very few at 185 have the style to do so.
Costa is pure offense. Unless he changes the style hes shown thus far, it's a very difficult matchup for him on the feet i feel, against a counter fighter who is masterful in using your aggression against you.
If he does utilize some wrestling, it gets interesting.
Although just as Whittaker said, Izzy is very underrated in that sense.
Even his jiu jitsu on the bottom was pretty impressive for his level of experience, he looked fluid and natural in the brief moments weve seen from him there. Although I suppose that should be expected, being a blue belt under Galvao.
All in all, it's an interesting fight. Stylistically terrible for Costa imo. But Its silly to count him out.
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Styles make fights
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Wood tbh
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Randlemann KOd cro cop
Travis browne KOd Overeem
Gonzaga KOd cro cop
Ernest hoost TKOd by bob sapp.
Semmy schilt, The most decorated kickboxer in history, was KOd by Gilbert Yvel, an mma fighter who has a kickboxing record of 1-1.
Pat Barry . Decent kickboxer . Flatlined in 4 oz gloves often by wild strikers.
Anderson Silva ( who was not as past his prime as we think And to be fair wasn’t a decorated kickboxer but was a gifted trap setter ) flatlined against wrestler Weidman.
Jose Aldo against Hollaway . Aldo isn’t decorated Pure striker either But is more technical than Max and got done in by his volume and chin .
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All three or.. ?
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I was waiting for this response, but @MescalineDreams took my nut
Izzy doesn't have the shell up defense, he uses actual functional head movement and footwork to avoid shots/counter.
Edit: I don't think much of Anderson anymore, he built his legacy clowning guys that swung from the rafters.
