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Israel Adesanya's Absolute Destruction Of Costa Will Be The Most Ruthless Beatdown Ever Witnessed
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I was waiting for this response, but @MescalineDreams took my nut. Izzy is nothing like those guys, and they aren't "pretty" kickboxers. They may throw clean shots, but they aren't the greatest tacticians (sans Schilt, but he's anamoly that can jab you from 30 yards away, most people can't utilize a similar style).
Izzy doesn't have the shell up defense, he uses actual functional head movement and footwork to avoid shots/counter.
Hoost isn't a "pretty" kickboxer?
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Actually Silva was pretty close to Iz . I hear ya and I enjoy the Jack Slack level analysis . We can revisit this sat night . I’m not counting Iz out and on paper he’s got striking edge. Well see.
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I was waiting for this response, but @MescalineDreams took my nut. Izzy is nothing like those guys, and they aren't "pretty" kickboxers. They may throw clean shots, but they aren't the greatest tacticians (sans Schilt, but he's anamoly that can jab you from 30 yards away, most people can't utilize a similar style).
Izzy doesn't have the shell up defense, he uses actual functional head movement and footwork to avoid shots/counter.
Edit: I don't think much of Anderson anymore, he built his legacy clowning guys that swung from the rafters.
Edit: My bad, confused Hoost and Schilt
Hoost is "pretty" from an offensive stand point. Defensively he's basic like most of them. His defense is mostly overwhelm you with offense, the occasional head sway, and the typical shell up.
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How am I a hater?Costa will lose because there is no complexity to his game. He's a straight forward high volume, high pressure, brawler, who throws semi-decent punches and has everyone creaming themselves cause he goes to the body under specific conditions.
He relies on his output and resilience to get him through fights. As Gilbert Melendez pointed out for those ESPN breakdowns, Costa meets power with power, meaning he doesn't mind getting hit in order for him to hit you. He's confident in his physical abilities (being a bully in the cage) which is why he doesn't develop his game much. This mentality, along with his simple game, and high output, will be his undoing.
This guy was tailor made for Izzy.
1) Israel has fought plenty of guys like this in Kickboxing:
If higher level strikers, who actually employ traps, use nuanced combinations, and have pure striking experience couldn't put Izzy out (sans Perriera) how is a basic striker like Paulo going to do it? He isn't the boxer some of you claim he is, far from it.
Those "body punches" everyone loses their mind about? Paulo mostly only uses them when he has you trapped against the cage, otherwise he's head hunting and eating shots. How is a low level cage cutter like Costa going to trap Israel? You guys clown on Izzy for resetting to the center ("running"), it's an intelligent tactic and Paulo won't have Israel's back against the cage because of this and Izzy's lateral movement.
2) Paulo is not defensively responsible:
Back to Melendez, Costa meets power with power. He takes one to give one. He randomly uses head movement and it isn't to set him up for counter strikes, it's just kind of something he does. His defensive footwork in non existent. He throws a lot of shots, willing to take what's coming back at him. He hasn't fought any polished strikers who can make him pay for this yet. Izzy will counter Costa comfortably all night as he marches forward, unable to cut off Izzy with his obvious footwork and round kicks.
This is the same guy who was struggling with an undisciplined striker in Uriah Hall. Uriah Hall finally decided to pump a jab and he was tagging Costa at will, busting his face up. Hall being more worried about being some Tekken fighter, wasn't defensively sound, and went punch for punch with Costa. Basically fought Costas fight, and succumbed to the pressure. Not to mention he a fighter who famously folds. Israel is neither of those things and he's a much more disciplined and nuanced striker.
3) Paulo is very basic, obvious:
There is no nuance to Paulo's game, hes able to land so much because he's willing to eat shots. His offense is limited and obvious. Though his punches are tighter than many fighters, he tenses up with all his strikes, making his offense extremely obvious for seasoned strikers.
Izzy will let Paulo attempt to march him down, while peppering him jabs to the nose and chin, capitalizing on his openings with quick counters, and utilizing his footwork and lateral movement to avoid the cage. Once Costa starts breathing from his mouth early in the third, Israel will turn it up, diversify his offense, and put him out.
Of course Costa coming in with a grappling heavy gameplan would make this fight look completely different. Should Costa come out the way he usually does, I envision the fight going similar to what I summarized above.
There you go I played my hand. No one who has called me on being confident about my pick has done this. It's a lot easier to build an argument when someone has already presented something. I'm so confident Izzy is going to put this guy down that I don't mind it. Come at shersheep.
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If I'm missing boiz/haters, my bad, my memory is shit guys.
I mean yeah, I really dislike Izzy.
But I have been very consistent in saying that I think Izzy will win this one. @GoshiShun17 and @Ironnik94 can back me up on this. I dislike the dude, but I fully respect his skills, especially against someone like Costa.
I may dislike his personality, but I am pretty damn sensible when it come to his skills. (except for when he fights Whittaker again, my heads gonna be off in the clouds).
So If your saying I dislike the guy, then sure.
But If your saying I think Costa will win, then you are wrong.
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Yeah
But when your speed and reflexes start to go
Its only a matter of time until you get caught competing against fighters in their prime.
Peak Anderson was extremely difficult to find.
They're not the type of fighters you can really compare to the standard kickboxer.
Some simply dont translate very well to mma. Their neural pathways have been built for way too long utilizing the gloves to mitigate damage.
Izzy is one of the very few exceptions. But, anything can happen.
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Don't take the category so seriously it was mostly for fun. But I'll take you off and apologize for assuming shit. Sorry @Chael_Sonnen for grouping you in with people without actually knowing your stance. You're right, I assumed you picked Costa cause you hate on Izzy a lot and because you made threads discrediting his striking (which you were fair and retracted of course).
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It can be hard to tell sometimes boys
Everyone needs to recognize where we are and how most people think here.. lol
It can be all too easy to assume sometimes. I consistently fall victim to this.
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You are kidding right? Prime Overeem, Hoost, Schilt.etc are worlds apart regarding skill level in every aspect than Izzy. Straight stand up Izzy is a bum compared to them. Hoost and not a tactician is funny as shit. Still Adesanya is a good kickboxer and regarding MMA he is very good.
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I think you're missing the point my friend. It's the defensive skillset and underreliance on the gloves to mitigate damage that sets him apart from the average kickboxer.
And no. Even beyond defense, in terms of skill and technique, Adesanya is very far from a bum compared to them.
Overeem has nowhere close to the level of raw talent and ability that Izzy has, so that's a bit of an odd assertion to make so confidently.
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Thanks brother. No worries, I would have assumed I had picked Costa as well If I hadn't been following all of my posts.
I do hate on Izzy a lot lmao. I'm trying to get better at letting stuff go, and not needing to respond to people.
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Yeah man, totally. Especially online, facts and feelings get blurred. Its easy to discredit a guy's skills cause you dislike him, its harder to take a step back and acknowledge his strong points.
Lol, I don't mind people assuming stuff about me. As long as when I respond to correct the assumption, they are fair about it, which @drbolony totally was.
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You've come off pretty reasonable and intelligent in the posts I've seen of you.
But yeah, appearances can be deceiving. I often fall victim to this but it's a work in progress.
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This is the one that always gets me lmao.
I always need to fight single battle haha.
Wisdom and maturity is knowing which battles to fight and which ones to walk away from.
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Overeem beat a prime Badr Hari and he beat him via skill and tactic. That is lightyears above everything Adesanya accomplished in stand up. Overeem has a very crafty underrated stand up. Now he is way past his prime and can still compete and get wins. Adesanya got his lights put out when he went up in level of opposition. He was an ok kickboxer at pro level nothing more but also nothing less as that is a huge accomplishment. Thats his skill level based on fight record. Everything else is fantasyland.
I could analyze his whole technical skillset but as I know you by now that will change nothing. You are kind of immune to reality.
