Elections Is Tulsi Gabbard a Russian asset?

[Ruprecht]

Looking at the actual quote it was Stein that was called a Russian asset (which was what I was talking about earlier in regards to her RT conference in 2016), and Gabbard is supposedly being "groomed" for a 3rd party run. 35:30

 

[VivaRevolution]

Looking at the actual quote it was Stein that was called a Russian asset (which was what I was talking about earlier in regards to her RT conference in 2016), and Gabbard is supposedly being "groomed" for a 3rd party run.

Are all the Democrat candidates CNN assets when they participate in a debate on CNN?

 

[Witchhunt]

Hillary said it, it must be true.

 

[Witchhunt]

Are all of the posters that voted no Russian assets? Mmm-mmm, likely.

 

[Roaming East]

You guys should find a translation of Foundations of Geopolitics. Its a book written back in the 90's by a Russian nationalist that basically details how Russia can and should destabilize the West in general and the US in particular. its very widely read in Russian government and military schools and is basically a step by step process on how to weaken the US politically by use of regional, ethnic, and political division by a concerted intelligence program.

it literally reads like a step by step of what Russia has been doing in the US the past 20 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

 

[nac386]

This could also be pay back for not staying in line during the 2015 election right?

Well yeah, I'd assume Hillary Clinton has a personal dislike for Tulsi for a number of reasons. Her comment about Tulsi was clearly a personal attack in addition to a political insight.

If we use the first definition, calling her an asset to Russia is not outrageous at all.

The problem is we all know Hillary's context here. When she claimed Trump was a Russian asset, she meant he was in cahoots with Russia. When she claimed Jill Stein was a Russian asset, she meant she was in cahoots with Russia. Why would she say the exact same thing about Tulci Gabbard if that is not what she meant by it?

I honestly don't follow Hillary Clinton's comments closely enough to remember her exact wording when speaking about people over the years. If she had used the word "asset" to mean "in cahoots with" in the past then she should use different terminology if that is not what she means now.

 

[VivaRevolution]

You guys should find a translation of Foundations of Geopolitics. Its a book written back in the 90's by a Russian nationalist that basically details how Russia can and should destabilize the West in general and the US in particular. its very widely read in Russian government and military schools and is basically a step by step process on how to weaken the US politically by use of regional, ethnic, and political division by a concerted intelligence program.

it literally reads like a step by step of what Russia has been doing in the US the past 20 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Sounds like our media might be Russian assets.

 

[Roaming East]

Sounds like our media might be Russian assets.

unwitting assets but yes. our country makes the influence of money into politics and the media a veritable dagger at our hearts. So long as you have money to burn, there is no end to what kind of narrative you can push and how many people to can influence. Look at facebook.

 

[VivaRevolution]

unwitting assets but yes. our country makes the influence of money into politics and the media a veritable dagger at our hearts. So long as you have money to burn, there is no end to what kind of narrative you can push and how many people to can influence. Look at facebook.

CNN and Fox News seem to be enthusiastic unwitting Russian assets then.

 

[TheGreatA]

Hillary is an old Cold War crone who still sees Commies in every corner.

America ought to be well-rid of such left-overs from the past.

 

[MicroBrew]

I'd say so. She defends russia at every turn while attacking america.

She's also got links to far right militant hindu supremacist organisations that have a track record of killing or inspiring attacks on minorities

Care to provide some proof ?
Sounds a lot like how the Rightwing were trying to smear Obama as some crypto-Muslim . Ofcourse now it is the Dems doing it to one of their own, so it's all kosher / Halal with the Dem intelligentsia and apparatchiks. Sounds like a neo McCarthyism lite.

The Democrat's big issue with her is that she supported Bernie in 2016 over Hillary and that she met Assad, to get the other side of the narrative. Hillary met with the so called Rebels, which were for the most part just a bunch of Jihadist thugs intent on cleansing and genociding non-Sunnis. Tulsi was not on board with the interventionist regime change scheme , that is what pissed off the interventionist Dems.

Good that the Dems have people like Tulsi opposing the interventionist warmongers in the Democrat party and not sticking to the party line.

 

[Ruprecht]

Are all the Democrat candidates CNN assets when they participate in a debate on CNN?

Well CNN isn't exactly a state propaganda network in the same way as RT.
Stein's appearances on RT mostly drew criticism when she suggested that Russia had a right to the Crimea and criticised NATO.
Past that it was the Gala where she was supposedly hosted at the Kremlin's expense and sat with Putin, Flynn etc.
Followed by the pro-Stein Social Media campaign they ran.
Of course that doesn't mean she's anything other than a "useful idiot" in Putin's eyes.
They support anyone that's critical of the American establishment in ways which dovetail with their interests.

 

[Jar of Flies]

Gabbard is basically becoming the Colby Covington of politics. Copying Trump’s (Chael’s) brash approach because she is slipping into obscurity. And just like Covington, only Trump supporters seem to like her.

 

[MicroBrew]

@MicroBrew

Google it. Tulsi openly has relations with the RSS and had their heads attend her wedding

Check out some of the work done by Pieter Friedreich

Its funny you mention Muslims. Her spiritual leader had some pretty nasty things to say about them

And hindutvas have a track record of killing muslims (and christians) in india. Tulsi loves them

It is customary for the one making the claims, if the claim is not widely known and part of general knowledge, to provide the proof / links.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Well CNN isn't exactly a state propaganda network in the same way as RT.

Stein's appearances on RT mostly drew criticism when she suggested that Russia had a right to the Crimea and criticised NATO.
Past that it was the Gala where she was supposedly hosted at the Kremlin's expense and sat with Putin, Flynn etc.
Followed by the pro-Stein Social Media campaign they ran.
Of course that doesn't mean she's anything other than a "useful idiot" in Putin's eyes.
They support anyone that's critical of the American establishment in ways which dovetail with their interests.

I'm fine with this description. I just don't see anything other than naturally aligned interests, and those interests being used as a smear.

 

[Ruprecht]

Not even comparably. CNN presents the establishment American position and it's propaganda aspects are mostly a product of parochialism and selective attention. RT is more like Radio Free Europe, except more inclined towards outright falsehoods and conspiracy theories.

I'm fine with this description. I just don't see anything other than naturally aligned interests, and those interests being used as a smear.

Sure, and that's always been the case with left-wing criticism of America and the response of those on the right.

 

[Letssnuggle]

Anyone who allows themself to even consider this question should seriously take a break from politics, as they’ve completely lost touch with reality.

 

[Confucamus]

Looking at the actual quote it was Stein that was called a Russian asset (which was what I was talking about earlier in regards to her RT conference in 2016), and Gabbard is supposedly being "groomed" for a 3rd party run. 35:30

This is was Clinton said immediately after talking about Tulsi:
"That's assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not, because she's also a Russian asset,"

She was saying both of them are Russian assets.

 

[Ruprecht]

This is was Clinton said immediately after talking about Tulsi:
"That's assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not, because she's also a Russian asset,"
She was saying both of them are Russian assets.

Seems open to interpretation, but what was clear was that she thinks Russia will promote candidates who will take votes from the democrat candidate in order to give the election to Trump. Which is exactly what was said about Stein the whole time. Hillary just wasn't decided on whether she thought Gabbard or Stein would gain more support. Of course Gabbard's already said she won't run as a 3rd party candidate and doesn't look in any position to be the democrat nominee, so unless that changes it's just a smear anyway.

 

[Videer]

Russian asset? Meaning that she has some clandestine relationship with Russian intelligence? Almost certainly not but her weird Assad-Putin hugging has to be questioned.