Elections Is Tulsi Gabbard a Russian asset?

[King in the North]

• Amerikuracana
• FrozenMonkey
• Ornife
• lilelvis
• King in the North
• PolishHeadlock2
• Plodder

the thread title and poll question aren’t the same. Gabbard is without a doubt Putin’s favorite democrat in the race. That doesn’t make her a Manchurian Candidate though.

So, speaking only for myself, I am not under the belief Gabbard is working for the Russians in any way whatsoever.

 

[MicroBrew]

Hillary is a shill for the Sunni Gulf regimes, a shill for the Neoconservative Iraq war and a shill for the interventionist Brits and French. Hillary took money from the Arab despots, but has the chutzpah to criticize Gabbard for merely meeting with Assad, something a lot more of our leaders should have done since the Hillary camp wanted to depose him.

The Clintons are a cancer for the Democratic party, and it is a stain on the party that they haven't kicked this grifter , nepotistic, self-serving pseudo-liberals to the curb. The Clinton camp had no qualms appealing to racists when Hillary was running against Obama.

 

[MicroBrew]

As for Assad, she met him to understand what was going. Learning about the situation from his perspective.

The big takeaway from Assad that most people have is that he gassed his own people....to kill terrorists. It's called collateral damage and it happens during conflict. Do you think that we ONLY kill the bad guys when bomb and raid cities and villages? People are incredibly naive.

The Assad situation is not black & white which is what everyone wants things to be today. What he did was wrong but he's also fighting terrorists and keeping them on the outskirts of Turkey. It's a complicated situation and all Tulsi was doing was supporting Assad's attempt to fight and stop terrorists.

She wasn't even calling for Assad to be supported, she was just opposed to the US intervening on the rebel side and deposing Assad. Trump was the same way. And so too were Syrian Christians and some Christians over here because everyone knows what would follow if the Jihadists take over.

Hillary, McCain and the rest of the interventionists wanted the US to pro-actively depose Assad. The media should be focusing on Hillary and the Clinton Foundation's ties to despotic Arab regimes but they aren't. It is hypocritical of Hillary and the Dem intelligentsia to brand Gabbard as pro Assad and a Russian agent when she hasn't taken money from any of them.

 

[Ruprecht]

Proof he voted for it in 2016?

He voted against it in 2012. The 2016 act was rolled into the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017 which he abstained from voting on. At the same time, other clear Russian asset, Elizabeth Warren voted against it.

Sorry, he approved it (unanimous consent) as S.284 on Dec 17th 2015. Not in 2016.

 

[Sketch]

Hillary is a shill for the Sunni Gulf regimes, a shill for the Neoconservative Iraq war and a shill for the interventionist Brits and French. Hillary took money from the Arab despots, but has the chutzpah to criticize Gabbard for merely meeting with Assad, something a lot more of our leaders should have done since the Hillary camp wanted to depose him.

The Clintons are a cancer for the Democratic party, and it is a stain on the party that they haven't kicked this grifter , nepotistic, self-serving pseudo-liberals to the curb. The Clinton camp had no qualms appealing to racists when Hillary was running against Obama.

Well said. Hillary is a million times more crooked and criminal than anybody you’ll find her criticizing. I’ve said it before, Hillary is basically a higher level mob boss.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

the thread title and poll question aren’t the same. Gabbard is without a doubt Putin’s favorite democrat in the race. That doesn’t make her a Manchurian Candidate though.

So, speaking only for myself, I am not under the belief Gabbard is working for the Russians in any way whatsoever.

Sorry for trying to have any fun ever.

 

[jrams]

Sorry, he approved it (unanimous consent) as S.284 on Dec 17th 2015. Not in 2016.

Unanimous consent doesn't mean he voted for it. He voted against the bill in 2012, he once abstained from the defense authorization act in 2016 and then again voted against the defense authorization act in 2016 that included the Magnitsky Act (aka the same National Defense Authorization Act thing Tulsi is getting reprimanded for voting against). It's also the same act that Elizabeth Warren voted against in 2016.



Bernie has been playing nice this time around so he isn't a Russian. However, they reserve the right to red scare him if he were to call out the DNC at any point.

 

[KoreanZawmbie]

Can’t wait for the day until this old hag rolls over and dies in her own vomit

 

[Happy Man]

Oh

BRAAAAAAWK! twitter! BRAAAAAAAWK!


How about you put that garbage in your own words for once.

 

[Happy Man]

Unanimous consent doesn't mean he voted for it. He voted against the bill in 2012, he once abstained from the defense authorization act in 2016 and then again voted against the defense authorization act in 2016 that included the Magnitsky Act (aka the same National Defense Authorization Act thing Tulsi is getting reprimanded for voting against). It's also the same act that Elizabeth Warren voted against in 2016.



Bernie has been playing nice this time around so he isn't a Russian. However, they reserve the right to red scare him if he were to call out the DNC at any point.

Just bc people want sensible policy towards Russia. They get demonized for it.

 

[Ruprecht]

Unanimous consent doesn't mean he voted for it. He voted against the bill in 2012, he once abstained from the defense authorization act in 2016 and then again voted against the defense authorization act in 2016 that included the Magnitsky Act (aka the same National Defense Authorization Act thing Tulsi is getting reprimanded for voting against). It's also the same act that Elizabeth Warren voted against in 2016.



Bernie has been playing nice this time around so he isn't a Russian. However, they reserve the right to red scare him if he were to call out the DNC at any point.

It doesn't mean he voted for it, but it means he didn't object to the unanimous consent and it was passed.
Sanders maintains that he supports sanctions on Russia (and North Korea), including the Magnitsky act, when it's not combined with sanctions on Iran or increased military spending.

Gabbard's statement was similar, although she didn't mention supporting sanctions on Russia and focused her objections not on military spending so much as the provision for arming Syrian rebels with manpads.

 

[west42]

Who are the seven who have voted YES?

Apparently going to russia, knowing a Russian person, drinking a shot of vodka, etc.....makes you a Russian agent. So I'm forced to vote yes.

 

[Happy Man]

It doesn't mean he voted for it, but it means he didn't object to the unanimous consent and it was passed.
Sanders maintains that he supports sanctions on Russia (and North Korea), including the Magnitsky act, when it's not combined with sanctions on Iran or increased military spending.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Union-attacked-U-S-foreign-interventions.html

If Bernie Sanders “is against Russia” now, he doesn’t believe in it, just like he doesn’t believe leftist border policy, and lies about caring about BLM or leftist identity politics. he is pandering to the woke twitterverse.

he doesn’t really believe the russia nonsense. But must pander.

to me, it’s gross that he even panders

 

[kpt018]

Huh, I was wrong. She is a Russian asset in a more literal sense, more than a "useful idiot" anyhow. Prepare the anus for the third party run.

The coincidence pile up and becomes harder to believe she’s just a useful idiot. I’m still not sure what her intentions are but it wouldn’t shock me if we found out at some point Russia is actually finding a campaign on her behalf (we already know they’re funding her support). Are we to believe she gets all her foreign policy political views from Russia propaganda and buys into them because she’s dumb? Well, she doesn’t deserve a seat.

The fact that it’s plausible and even likable she’s an unwilling Russian asset and possibly willing should absolutely disqualify her.

I’m sure I’ll have to ignore ten more posters after this but there was nothing wrong with Hillary’s comments here except she didn’t name her out right.

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

• Amerikuracana
• FrozenMonkey
• Ornife
• lilelvis
• King in the North
• PolishHeadlock2
• Plodder

Some of them did it for a goof for sure, but some are definitely legit retarded and gay.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Nice. Some actual crazy people finally showed up.

 

[kpt018]

The rhetoric reminds me of critiques of Communists and Jews, where you are either against them openly or else their unwitting pawn. Everything is turned into ‘but that would benefit the Communist/Jews/Russians,’ and therefore you are the agent of those sinister forces unless you openly profess your allegiance to the opposition position.

It’s a lunatic way of viewing the world, and good to see that HC is embracing it whole heartedly.

Um, there is indisputable evidence that the Russians are absolutely supporting her campaign (even Gabbard won’t dispute it) and her line about our presence in Syria is a regime change war (not only a lie but taken from Russian propaganda), her unwillingness to speak a bad work about putin or Assad, etc..

I’d love to hear you elaborate on this and your posting is typically top notch but this is a terrible take.

 

[Ruprecht]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Union-attacked-U-S-foreign-interventions.html

If Bernie Sanders “is against Russia” now, he doesn’t believe in it, just like he doesn’t believe leftist border policy, and lies about caring about BLM or leftist identity politics. he is pandering to the woke twitterverse.

he doesn’t really believe the russia nonsense. But must pander.

to me, it’s gross that he even panders

What "russia nonsense"?

Their involvement in Human Rights abuses?
Their endemic corruption?
Their laundering of money overseas?
Their involvement in downing flight MH17?
Their annexing of the Crimea?
Their authoritarian leadership?
Their murder of journalists?
Their "firehose of falsehood" propaganda?

Sanders has spoken about many of those things.

As well as their election interference...

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Imagine thinking Gabbard meeting with Assad was bad.

He is the legitimate leader of Syria. The International Community should have been meeting with him.

 

[MicroBrew]

Oh

What the establishment wants is for every American , especially American politicians, to hate Russia. There is a paradigm set by the establishement and its shills, and everyone in any leadership position is expected to follow it.

Why the hell did we make Russia into an enemy? After the Berlin Wall fell, there was a real opportunity to bury the hatchet and see Russia as either a friend or atleast not an enemy, but the Western powers that be supported the Oligarghs that looted the country and supported Yeltsin, because the West believed that with the drunk Yeltsin behind the wheel, they could loot and control Russia. The Clintons directly assisted the Yeltsin campaign. So it is payback that Putin's internet propaganda network helped Trump and other candidates.