BJJ is bjj the same thing as kosen judo

[CajunJudoka]

This thread is so fresh! No repetitive circular arguments here!

How about this: Who are hotter, female judoka or female BJJers?


Judo

 

[footgod]

This thread is so fresh! No repetitive circular arguments here!

How about this: Who are hotter, female judoka or female BJJers?


Judo

who's the one up top she is gorgeous
there all hot but man that top one is just lovely

 

[JudokaUK]

Yeah this little guy used his huge muscles to do
Mifune is even smaller.

Mifune was actually in quite good shape when he was younger.

Kano in his youth

Its the same problem for Kano, Mifune and Helio were used to seeing them pictured as frail old men and that's combined with stories about them being small and weak.

We never see them in their prime.

And people are also able to maintain this cognitive dissonance, whereby Helio was some super beast and the greatest ever because he was small and could beat people bigger than him. Yet every gym has a small guy who can beat a big guy and everyone knows who Marcelo Garcia is...

Good shout with Romy Tarangul.

 

[CajunJudoka]

JudokaUK
I agree. They were in good shape but by no means big.

Young Helio

 

[CajunJudoka]

who's the one up top she is gorgeous
there all hot but man that top one is just lovely

Not sure just did a quick search and found the pic.

 

[JudokaUK]

who's the one up top she is gorgeous
there all hot but man that top one is just lovely

Claudia Heill, she committed suicide by jumping out of a sixth story window in March.

 

[Spazzmaster]

Well. That's a sudden turn off.
I... don't know how to feel right now!

 

[Rod1]

Claudia Heill, she committed suicide by jumping out of a sixth story window in March.

Whats wrong with judo and suicide? without judo i might as well be dead now considering it took me out of a huge depression and makes me go by in this monotone world without the need for antidepressants and ansiolitics. And i was never succesful in judo.

Now that girl was in the top of the world and incredibly beautiful, what a shame

 

[BJJ_Rage]

Whats wrong with judo and suicide? without judo i might as well be dead now considering it took me out of a huge depression and makes me go by in this monotone world without the need for antidepressants and ansiolitics. And i was never succesful in judo.

Now that girl was in the top of the world and incredibly beautiful, what a shame

see... another reason why bjj>judo....

j/k... that was a beatiful girl, what a shame...

 

[Cachimbo]

Claudia Heill, she committed suicide by jumping out of a sixth story window in March.

Man, that sucks. That's only about 54 feet/16 meters in a relatively tall building. people survive much higher falls than that all the time. For a judoka that's in good shape and can break fall well that must not have been a pleasant impact.

If I decide to go I'm going much higher than the 6th story.

 

[sweetpeanut]

how do i get an avatar.

check the FAQ

 

[buhriyon]

I think I read about kosen judo before in a martial arts magazine. There was a judo academy in Japan and they either had wood floors or really crappy mats so out of necessity they did tons of ground work.

 

[aModerateThreat]

well? is it?

 

[lts5025]

well? is it?

No.

Kosen isn't even a style of judo. Kosen is a ruleset for high school judo competitions that allows for greater amounts of newaza, theoretically for safety.

Kosen competitions started a decade after Maeda left Japan.

 

[Oleg Raktatov]

Well, bjj is not a style, its a ruleset for gi-groundfighting.
Jujitsu is the style.


See that video of Xande saying that in a seminar...

 

[Waldorf]

There is even a debate now (see the book Choque) if Carlos actually learned from Madea.

 

[ChainFlow]

There is even a debate now (see the book Choque) if Carlos actually learned from Madea.

What is the alternate theory?

 

[nooper]

But it was a version of judo taught to Carlos that was arrived at as a result of fighting around the world: hence phases of a fight etc.

 

[RJ Green]

What is the alternate theory?

after a seventeen day fast in the jungle, Carlos climbed fuck mountain and the spirit of Jesus was there in the form of a Jaguar. there, they battled day and night for another week until Carlos became hungry and ate some bacon, strawberries and half a pineapple. Then Jaguar Jesus (Jagsus? Jeguar?) finished him with Mata Leon.

"What trickery was that, O LORD," asked Carlos?

"Verily I say unto thee, thou totally turned the wrong way while I passed thy guard. Probably because you mixed food groups at breakfast," replied Jagasus

"O LORD, wouldst thou bestow thine knowledge upon your humble servant?"

"Only if thou passeth on my teachings as thine own. Spread thine seed and create a warrior family. Travel the world in pajamas and fight those who would sully thy name."

"LORD, wilst thou provideth for me?"

"Dude you can totally charge upwards of $100/month for this shit. Not to mention seminars, instructional DVDs, franchises."

"...do I have to learn the throws?"

"Nah."

"Brilliant! What do I call it?"

"Zhoozheezhoo"

 

[RTD1]

What is the alternate theory?

Found via Google:

Even Carlos Never Trained With Maeda?

According to Roberto Pedreira's new BJJ history book, 'Choque', he states that there is no evidence Carlos Gracie ever trained with Maeda, which surprised me. I knew the other four brothers didn't train with Maeda, but I thought at least Carlos did.

Apparently, Carlos actually learned from Maeda's student, Donato Pires dos Reis. He also didn't start the Academia Gracie in 1925, according to Pedreira's book: instead, he took over Pires dos Reis' academy a couple of years after that, having previously been one of his assistant instructors.

Not sure if that is common knowledge, but it was new to me. Interesting book, which has a lot of footnotes and references, meaning that those who can read Portuguese (unfortunately not yet including me) should be able to check his research. Most of it appears to come from Portuguese newspapers.

Lots more interesting stuff in that thread.