Is BJJ effective in street fights?

[Cole train]

Lmao at people thinking street fights are 1 against 1

And bjj is horrible on the streets,you dont want to be on the ground

This comes from an ex bouncer

 

[Deleted member 466273]

Lmao at people thinking street fights are 1 against 1

And bjj is horrible on the streets,you dont want to be on the ground

This comes from an ex bouncer

kicking is better keep them at range.

 

[Robocok]

1 v 1 then yh, but 3 v 1 best bet is them quick boxing hands

3 v 1 I'm using them quick running legs

 

[Deleted member 466273]

3 v 1 I'm using them quick running legs

What if they're faster

 

[plataoplombo]

Modern bjj that incorporates a lot of takedowns and the position before submission mentality would definitely help. Also, if you end up on your back you can still attack using subs and sweeps.

 

[SpedDaddyV]

Just speaking as a blue belt, if it got to the ground in a street fight, he was untrained, and I had the top position I'm pretty confident I could finish it from there, even if he was significantly larger than me. Problem is tho my takedowns suck and we don't train them with resistance at my gym, we just drill. There's also the matter of whether he's carrying a knife on him, and also I've never experienced an adrenaline rush that comes with being in a real fight, so I dunno how that would affect me.

But... In general, jiu jitsu should work in a street fight just as well as anything else. Every standard style that you see in mma has its own set of holes when it comes to a real fight.

I have experienced the adrenaline rush of being in a fight, and it initially boosts the hell out of me for like a minute and then I am immediately winded and gassed and essentially huffing and puffing for my life.

I think it is that "fight or flight" type psychological crap. I'd imagine fighters in a cage can get it as well if not properly trained. Although I am not sure how much you can "train" that specific emotion.

But I also have no combat background or experience aside from doing Muay Thai for like a month and dojo karate as a kid (was a black belt though)

 

[dmwalking]

Like if someone shot in for a takedown on someone in a legitimate street fight (ignoring variables such as nearby objects, weapons, distractions, or interference) to utilize BJJ, wouldn’t eye gouging, hair pulling, and nut squeezing be an immediate factor and somewhat render the in close nature of BJJ a little useless?

I’m sure it wouldn’t hurt and would surely be an advantage over someone ignorant to BJJ, but I wonder just how effective it would be. The thread about how special forces not being able to adapt to the unified rules of MMA got me thinking of who would be more successful in a life or death situational fight.

I've used BJJ effectively in street fights before I even trained and all I did was study UFC tapes. And yeah, it's effective against the average untrained person. The only time I had a bad time is when I ended up on bottom against a guy who used to wrestle in high school. Got me down with a lateral drop. I recovered guard and went for an arm bar. He picked me up to slam me and I had to let go, stand up and push him away. Someone ended up breaking it up. Another time I was able to diffuse a situation by simply getting to mount and controlling the person until the fight was broken up. Actually that's how most of my fights went after I discovered those UFC tapes. I'd get some sort of body lock takedown, go straight to mount and take it from there. So BJJ works even for guys who are untrained. I've never had a street fight after I started training though. I prefer to de-escalate things but I feel confident in my ability to defend myself if need be.

But yeah, I'd wager that at least 80% of blue belts can handle any untrained guy in an unarmed self defense situation. Even if they fought dirty. Because think about it. A dirty fighter...that's all they got. A BJJ fighter has BJJ plus they can fight dirty if they want. The BJJ guy (or trained practitioners in general) will have the advantage 8/10 times. That's my strong opinion based on experience and observation.

 

[dmwalking]

in a one on one situation, yes.

Kinda hard to eye gouge / pull hair when you're being controlled and pounded Into oblivion and have no means of defending.

Street fights are never 1v1 situations though typically. In that sense, Boxing and judo are far more effective.

I guess I'm old school. I've only been jumped once. That wasn't a street fight as much as it was just a quick robbery. Punch, knock my glasses off, snatch my chain, run. But other than that, it's always been 1v1 for me. If there are multiple attackers, I'm definitely not taking it to the ground. LOL.

Boxing and Judo might be more effective, but BJJ is still effective.

 

[dmwalking]

For sure. But in street fight weapons can be used. Gun or knife is better than BJJ.

I've actually used BJJ principles to disarm someone. I still got cut (which is pretty much guaranteed when you're in a fight involving a knife), but I was still able to use basic BJJ to get the knife out of the equation. BJJ isn't as useless as people think. It's not all berimbolos and triangles from guard. LOL.

 

[dmwalking]

Maybe a standing guillotine...?

One on One fight, sure it works great as fuck

Street fight where people are around and anybody can get in on it, or if you need to escape quick after the scuffle, the hands.

Most important factor in street fight is dont wait to get hit, hit a mofo first, and dont just hit once, dont fucking stop til threat nuetralized, Pride rules and all.

Not all fights require that you beat the crap out of someone. I've ended a few altercations by simply hitting a quick takedown and holding mount. That's what I love about BJJ. I can choose. If I don't need to destroy someone, I won't. I don't want cops getting involved. Plus, if it's a lopsided beat down, it's going to he hard to prove self defense. Smart money is on controlling the guy more than beating him to a pulp.

That said, if you're against a much larger fella, a solid headbutt to the nose is a great opening attack. And like you said, don't stop until they're done.

 

[dmwalking]

Before I even started training I used BJJ just from watching so many fights over the years. This guy high on ice come at me, pulled his arm back to throw a haymaker and my first instinct was to step forward, grab him and get this to the ground. I stepped in, grabbed him and tripped him onto the ground. I was in side control and instantly knew I should get mount. Once I had him mounted I knew there was not a lot he could do and he was quickly out of energy trying to punch me from the bottom as I controlled his wrists. Once he was done I helped him back up and he apologised and cried for a good few minutes lol.

So yeah now I actually train so I will really know what I'm doing next time and there 100% will be a next time cos I work with ice addicts.

This guy knows.

 

[dmwalking]

Boxing and wrestling, can't tell you how many street fights just end with someone getting suplexed into unconsciousness.

Let's be real of it's an actual street fight, even 1on1 then all bets are off. A $5 Walmart pocket knife is stronger then 20 years of wrestling.

Knives are over rated. Wrist control goes a long way. Been there done that. You're still likely to get cut, but you'll prevent stabbings and DEEP cuts.

 

[dmwalking]

Who likes being hit??

James Toney says he likes it. *shrug*

 

[dmwalking]

Just remembered Yuki Nakai got eye gouged and still won the fight. So, yeah.

 

[SUPERGRAPPLER]

It absolutely is. Just in the sense of body awareness, managing distance, calmness under pressure and controlling ones breathing. Let's also not forget the physicality and cardio conditioning that jiujitsu requires.

 

[MescalineDreams]

I guess I'm old school. I've only been jumped once. That wasn't a street fight as much as it was just a quick robbery. Punch, knock my glasses off, snatch my chain, run. But other than that, it's always been 1v1 for me. If there are multiple attackers, I'm definitely not taking it to the ground. LOL.

Boxing and Judo might be more effective, but BJJ is still effective.

yeah In a 1v1, bjj is king

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Not all fights require that you beat the crap out of someone. I've ended a few altercations by simply hitting a quick takedown and holding mount. That's what I love about BJJ. I can choose. If I don't need to destroy someone, I won't. I don't want cops getting involved. Plus, if it's a lopsided beat down, it's going to he hard to prove self defense. Smart money is on controlling the guy more than beating him to a pulp.

That said, if you're against a much larger fella, a solid headbutt to the nose is a great opening attack. And like you said, don't stop until they're done.

No your right, I didnt mean to sound so brutal. Ive been training martial arts since the mid-90’s and still make it to get my rolls in.

Instincts make me want to grapple in encounters but Ive made the mistake of letting an outsider hit me from the side and Ive also had encounters where I struck as soon as they are in arm reach, and the results were much much better when you get off first instead of relying on your reaction speed and/or being a nice guy wanting to just hold them down.

In perfect world holding mount, letting them gas, and then making them apologize is great but its mean world and lifes unfair. Assholes that go out of there way to start something need a good ass whompin’

 

[dmwalking]

Proof that the average joe shmo can’t fight. If you actually train, you should be ok.

 

[dmwalking]

Lmao at people thinking street fights are 1 against 1

And bjj is horrible on the streets,you dont want to be on the ground

This comes from an ex bouncer

Some of them are. I’ve been in a few. Also, you can use bjj from standing.

 

[Cole train]

Some of them are. I’ve been in a few. Also, you can use bjj from standing.

Your lucky all the street fights iv been were always like 3 vs 7 or 5 vs 15 or 4 vs 9

And i was always on the losing side lol