Is BJJ effective in street fights?

[dmwalking]

Your lucky all the street fights iv been were always like 3 vs 7 or 5 vs 15 or 4 vs 9

And i was always on the losing side lol

I am definitely lucky. I’m also old so I come from a time where shooting the fair one was the right way to do it. I did get jumped/robbed once. There were 3 of us and 2 of them and the guys I was with ran away! Lol I had to take the L on that one.

 

[cugnao]

According to my experience against muggers, I say "yes and no" like many self defense systems/TMA/combat sports. It's how you use it under stress.
For my part I do BJJ for 6 years, I used it several times and it works fuck great especially if a mugger tries to grab you at close range. Well maybe because I work a lot on standup fights with judo and wrestling in sparring despite the fact I train sports BJJ (I watch maybe too much the agressive Erberth Santos style).
I threw one mugger into the tarmac with a seoi nage and it knocked him out completely. Another night, I had to resort a takedown and ground pound and in a night club a rear choke.
In a 1 vs 1 combat it works great, in 2 vs 1 (unarmed) like many styles and self defense , you could defeat one by one if you have good punching/brawling stand up skills. But against more than 2 like many styles and self defense, just run.

 

[cugnao]

If you pull guard you’ll get stomped out by the guy’s goons.

Your best option is to fill the room with uppercuts

Why pulling the guard in the streets???? Just takedown and get the top position, ground pound and/or get the back and choke! The old Gracies used to do that!

 

[dmwalking]

Why pulling the guard in the streets???? Just takedown and get the top position, ground pound and/or get the back and choke! The old Gracies used to do that!

Na bro, you gotta pull worm guard! LOL

 

[cugnao]

Na bro, you gotta pull worm guard! LOL

Excellent idea!!! Love it bro!!! I will grab the d.... to make a make shift worm guard and berimbolo AND waiting a referee in the streets counting 2 points for sweeping and 4 for taking the back !!! ROTFL

 

[cugnao]

Tim Kennedy talked about this in a podcast (Given he had a special forces background). I'll have to see if I can find it. He essentially said that special forces guys get the bare minimum in hth combat because they are weapons first (long gun, pistol, knife in that order). They are trained to take out opposition with minimum effort and noise and hth fights like we see in the movies are pretty unrealistic.

He also said that there were guys that specialized in hth fighting in the special forces but that was a personal choice not a military requirement.

Gun beats kung fu every time...

Normal, in a mission first act quick! in a no rules fight the Special Forces will win against a trained MMA fighter because the first will pull the trigger and shoot the MMA fighter, end of the stories. The Special Forces just train mainly boxing and wrestling and somehow combatives (derivated from BJJ and MMA) for unarmed fights even no Kravmaga shit but are trained physically for war purposes to take strategic positions and sites swiftly!

 

[cugnao]

Step one: Take the back while standing.

Step two: Suplex on to the concrete.

Step three: Profit.

Honestly if you want a BJJ style effective in the streets, follow the Carlson gracie style.I am not training in a Carlson Gracie affiliate but I started to refine my BJJ game following this principles as I used to be a proficient guard player:
- good standup / judo /wrestling skills
- crushing pressure top game
- devastating knee on the belly ( careful to not crush the thoracic cage otherwise you can kill your opponent ...)
- aggressive style with a flurry submission
- good guard players but it's not the main objectif (the counter example is de la riva)
- top athleticism

it really helps me to develop my athletic attributes which started to get loosen during the time I play guard

 

[HappyPanda]

It is as long as you can separate sport from self defense. Skip pulling guard and doing berimbolo and maybe look for takedowns and chokes.

 

[dmwalking]

Excellent idea!!! Love it bro!!! I will grab the d.... to make a make shift worm guard and berimbolo AND waiting a referee in the streets counting 2 points for sweeping and 4 for taking the back !!! ROTFL

Geeeez dude I laughed so ugly. 10/10 this was perfect. I actually pictured this and cracked up

 

[cugnao]

It is as long as you can separate sport from self defense. Skip pulling guard and doing berimbolo and maybe look for takedowns and chokes.

Agree, if you manage to knock out your aggressor with a takedown it's over so no more actions to do (watching the "ugly but dreaded" judo of Erberth Santos give me some "bad" habits) and much more time to get ready to face another aggressor or to runaway.

 

[cugnao]

Geeeez dude I laughed so ugly. 10/10 this was perfect. I actually pictured this and cracked up

hahaha, I am pleased you like my humor bro, this technique is approved and porrada-tested for the Worlds of the porn jitsu LOL. I hope Kit Dale won't read this thread otherwise he will dare to film an inspired "gag". ROTFL

 

[HunterAcosta]

Before I even started training I used BJJ just from watching so many fights over the years. This guy high on ice come at me, pulled his arm back to throw a haymaker and my first instinct was to step forward, grab him and get this to the ground. I stepped in, grabbed him and tripped him onto the ground. I was in side control and instantly knew I should get mount. Once I had him mounted I knew there was not a lot he could do and he was quickly out of energy trying to punch me from the bottom as I controlled his wrists. Once he was done I helped him back up and he apologised and cried for a good few minutes lol.

So yeah now I actually train so I will really know what I'm doing next time and there 100% will be a next time cos I work with ice addicts.

what job do u have where u work with ice addicts?!

 

[SpaceGinger]

what job do u have where u work with ice addicts?!

Youth support worker mate. Ice is such a massive problem with almost every young adult I work with on it.

 

[Kenjamito]

Yes it does, just look at the video that came out this week of the high school kids fighting. He took mount and ground ‘n pounded until he lost mount and then had his back and finished him with a RNC. This was all in front of a crowd of onlookers who surprisingly didn’t stomp him out like some of the commenters say here.

 

[BJJ_Rage]

Yes it does, just look at the video that came out this week of the high school kids fighting. He took mount and ground ‘n pounded until he lost mount and then had his back and finished him with a RNC. This was all in front of a crowd of onlookers who surprisingly didn’t stomp him out like some of the commenters say here.

Got a link?

 

[raty tat tat]

Got a link?

I like yo see it but I believe SD vids are frown upon here

 

[Kenjamito]

Check it out @BJJ_Rage

 

[Grassshoppa]

Like if someone shot in for a takedown on someone in a legitimate street fight (ignoring variables such as nearby objects, weapons, distractions, or interference) to utilize BJJ, wouldn’t eye gouging, hair pulling, and nut squeezing be an immediate factor and somewhat render the in close nature of BJJ a little useless?

I’m sure it wouldn’t hurt and would surely be an advantage over someone ignorant to BJJ, but I wonder just how effective it would be. The thread about how special forces not being able to adapt to the unified rules of MMA got me thinking of who would be more successful in a life or death situational fight.

Watch UFCs 1-4 and you shall see the answer.

 

[TroldeAnsigt]

Normal, in a mission first act quick! in a no rules fight the Special Forces will win against a trained MMA fighter because the first will pull the trigger and shoot the MMA fighter, end of the stories. The Special Forces just train mainly boxing and wrestling and somehow combatives (derivated from BJJ and MMA) for unarmed fights even no Kravmaga shit but are trained physically for war purposes to take strategic positions and sites swiftly!

What a retarded post. Of course a soldier will win over any fighter if he has a fucking gun, thats obvious. In HTH combat however, my money is on the professional fighter, not the guy with 50 hours total in army combatives.

Edit: Excuse my morning crankiness when I said retarded, but it is obvious that a guy with a weapon will most likely win over any unarmed opponent.

 

[eternaldarkness]

kicking is better keep them at range.

funnily enough one of the most effective things in big gang fights. ever watch hool fights at all.