Is 170LB Division going to be run by 6'2+ guys?

[MetaIIica]

Ian Garry, Shavkhat, Michael Morales. These guys could all beat Islam Mackachev, and they are all huge. It seems like the future of welterweight is 6'2+.

Islam Mackachev is too short to defend his title more than 2 times in Welterweight division, only against an easy opponent like Usman whos 5'9.

 

[Koya]

Waiting for your next thread when a tall fighter loses.

"Is 170LB Division going to be run by 5'8 guys?"

Any data older than 24h doesn't count. Never change sherdog.

 

[MetaIIica]

Waiting for your next thread when a tall fighter loses.

"Is 170LB Division going to be run by 5'8 guys?"

Any data older than 24h doesn't count. Never change sherdog.

Who of the 3 guys I listed lost to someone 5'8 ?

 

[Koya]

Who of the 3 guys I listed lost to someone 5'8 ?

 

[fries in the bag]

i always viewed it as:

lightweight = 5'10"+
welterweight = 6'0"+
middleweight = 6'1"+
light heavyweight = 6'2"+
heavyweight = 6'4"+

 

[Koya]

i always viewed it as:

lightweight = 5'10"+
welterweight = 6'0"+
middleweight = 6'1"+
light heavyweight = 6'2"+
heavyweight = 6'4"+

There isn't any set rule like that. Depends a lot of the bone density of said fighters. Belal is 5'10 and could never make lightweight when Sean O'Malley is 6'1 and would probably get out muscled at featherweight.

Historically there is data that heavyweight got dominated at times by Velasquez who was 6'1 and DC who was 5'10. Woodley was a champ with successful defenses at 5'8, Usman is probably really 5'11.nTopuria is 5'8 tops as a LW champ (granted he only had one fight).

Actually there is a law of diminishing returns after a certain height/weight ratio.

 

[Discjockeyshtud]

Ian Garry, Shavkhat, Michael Morales. These guys could all beat Islam Mackachev, and they are all huge. It seems like the future of welterweight is 6'2+.

Islam Mackachev is too short to defend his title more than 2 times in Welterweight division, only against an easy opponent like Usman whos 5'9.

Weird day to make that argument given Dan Hooker is 6" and Arman is 5,7" separated by 5 inches

A fortnight ago the GOAT was 5,7" and everyone is talking about them moving to welterweight

DC is a double champ at heavyweight and is an inch taller than Islam

Former champ Matt Serra is 5,6"

Islam steamrolls Morales and Garry, only Shavkat has a chance

Also O'Malley and Usman are 5,11"

No evidence height matters, if anything it's the contrary

 

[Koya]

Weird day to make that argument given Dan Hooker is 6" and Arman is 5,7" separated by 5 inches

A fortnight ago the GOAT was 5,7" and everyone is talking about them moving to welterweight

DC is a double champ at heavyweight and is an inch taller than Islam

Former champ Matt Serra is 5,6"

Islam steamrolls Morales and Garry, only Shavkat has a chance

Also O'Malley and Usman are 5,11"

No evidence height matters, if anything it's the contrary

Will you stop with your facts and logic

 

[Nausicaa]

It will be ran by the 5'5 manlet topuria

 

[Vagabound]

Weird day to make that argument given Dan Hooker is 6" and Arman is 5,7" separated by 5 inches

A fortnight ago the GOAT was 5,7" and everyone is talking about them moving to welterweight

DC is a double champ at heavyweight and is an inch taller than Islam

Former champ Matt Serra is 5,6"

Islam steamrolls Morales and Garry, only Shavkat has a chance

Also O'Malley and Usman are 5,11"

No evidence height matters, if anything it's the contrary

Islam is taller than DC, funnily enough

 

[Skarsgard]

Nah. The greatest welterweight we've ever seen was about 5'10. The next two in line were about that. Usman is about 5'10 as well. Hughes is about 5'6-7.

This is just the current trend. In a year, we'll see a bunch of cannonball looking dudes likd Volk that specialize in closing range.

 

[JonnyBonesPharmacist]

I wonder how Arman beat that bean poll Hookers ass? That was a huge height difference

 

[Tweak896]

Weight divisions keep growing size. Look at Buckley, even struggling at WW. That build clearly hasn't aged great. Lanklets win over time.

 

[jeff7b9]

There isn't any set rule like that. Depends a lot of the bone density of said fighters. Belal is 5'10 and could never make lightweight when Sean O'Malley is 6'1 and would probably get out muscled at featherweight.

Historically there is data that heavyweight got dominated at times by Velasquez who was 6'1 and DC who was 5'10. Woodley was a champ with successful defenses at 5'8, Usman is probably really 5'11.nTopuria is 5'8 tops as a LW champ (granted he only had one fight).

Actually there is a law of diminishing returns after a certain height/weight ratio.

If topuria is 5'8 I'm packing a footlong.

If we are squeezing in inches then fuck it.


Ilia is listed by UFC as 5'7 and based on the data that is being quite generous.

Most UFC guys are 1-2 some even 3 inches shorter than their listed height

 

[Söze Aldo]

Weight divisions keep growing size. Look at Buckley, even struggling at WW. That build clearly hasn't aged great. Lanklets win over time.

Not a hard rule at all. Merab soundly beat two 5'10"-5'11" guys while being 5'6".

The weight class limits and cuts will always be a trade off for the tall guys who fight at the lighter classes.

Gary admits he has to keep himself naturally light to fight at WW without doing hard cuts, but I can tell he trades off some natural power and muscle doing that.

 

[arcadeperfect]

If topuria is 5'8 I'm packing a footlong.

If we are squeezing in inches then fuck it.


Ilia is listed by UFC as 5'7 and based on the data that is being quite generous.

Most UFC guys are 1-2 some even 3 inches shorter than their listed height

Most of the guys are using their dating app heights, let's be real.

 

[Koya]

Weight divisions keep growing size. Look at Buckley, even struggling at WW. That build clearly hasn't aged great. Lanklets win over time.

Not sure he struggled since 5"8 Buckley beat 6"5 Nursulton Ruziboev at WW

And Buckley is just a bad example in general anyway, since he gave a really big MW all he could handle in Imamov

 

[Koya]

If topuria is 5'8 I'm packing a footlong.

If we are squeezing in inches then fuck it.


Ilia is listed by UFC as 5'7 and based on the data that is being quite generous.

Most UFC guys are 1-2 some even 3 inches shorter than their listed height

Honestly I didn't even know how he was listed. I said that because next to Charles who's 5'10 he seemed kinda 5'8 but that's hard to be accurate just by it. Depends on shoes and various things.

 

[Stagliano]

I love these height threads lol

 

[prime_lobov]

Shavkat isn’t running anything. He has more knee surgeries than fights - dude will never be champ and probably loses the next time he makes it into the ring.

Morales can be good but he needs to train full time and give up his gig as a gay prostitute.

So of the guys listed, only Ian Garry can “run the division.”