Imo Chimaev will get takedowns at will

[Big Tuppy Hole]

The training footage released from his camp has been intense as fuck but hopefully they're making sure it's not too much of it with too little rest.

Personally I think k he needs that intensity in training as he fights with that same intensity. It's a double edged sword, he ether falls to bits during camp or shows up primed.

The same flows through to his fights with that intensity drowning his opposition early or drowning himself as the fight progresses

 

[MMAFanCal]

Why do we need to rehash and spam the same exact talking points in new threads? There is already a thread I have seen on that wrestling video. Same exact talking points round in circle.

I remember I watched a couple of weeks ago. There is a video of Khamzat getting taken down by an amateur wrestler and being held there behind the back until the whistle (who was way smaller than him). Khamzat fans would never post that.

Bottom line, this is MMA. Not a wrestling match. There are so many other things going on in an MMA fight other than takedown attempts. Dricus is going to be doing MMA wrestling. Not pure wrestling. Even if Khamzat gets the fight to the ground, Dricus is extremely effective fighting on the ground off his back. He is known to mix things up including with his strikes and one-punch knockout power.

How Khamzat fans continue to just box in the whole fight around it being a wrestling match, reeks desperation. It does not matter since the fight is not going to care for the downplaying. MMA fight has a lot of things other than wrestling including elbows, striking, punching, kicking, 5 rounds. There are so many things Dricus does exceptionally well that no other competitor Khamzat has ever brought to the table including his physical prowess.

 

[mkess101]

What if Dricus excepts the TD and pulls guard. How does Chimaev work from there?

Would be weird but I think Khamzat would start by dropping gnp and elbows inside the guard. It's not like DDP is Burns where it's a world champion grappler with awesome sub skills off his back. I think we'd see Khamzat beating the shit out of DDP and forcing DDP to take chances to get out of that spot.

 

[Gilday]

I have huge respect for Dricus but Chimaev is just on a different level. The more I think about this fight the more I realize Chimaev is gonna finish him in the first round.

Chimaev is technically very high level.

Dricus is prone to alot of errors and that is just his fighting style but you can´t afford that with someone like Chimaev. He is gonna capitalize on the first error Dricus makes mark my words

It's crazy, because the more I think about it, I think DDP is going to beat him so badly we're gonna hear for months about how "Chimaev was never that good"

If it gets out of the 1st round and Dricus didn't get badly hurt, he wins comfortably IMO

 

[mkess101]

Why do we need to rehash and spam the same exact talking points in new threads? There is already a thread I have seen on that wrestling video. Same exact talking points round in circle.

I remember I watched a couple of weeks ago. There is a video of Khamzat getting taken down by an amateur wrestler and being held there behind the back until the whistle (who was way smaller than him). Khamzat fans would never post that.

Bottom line, this is MMA. Not a wrestling match. There are so many other things going on in an MMA fight other than takedown attempts. Dricus is going to be doing MMA wrestling. Not pure wrestling. Even if Khamzat gets the fight to the ground, Dricus is extremely effective fighting on the ground off his back. He is known to mix things up including with his strikes and one-punch knockout power.

How Khamzat fans continue to just box in the whole fight around it being a wrestling match, reeks desperation. It does not matter since the fight is not going to care for the downplaying. MMA fight has a lot of things other than wrestling including elbows, striking, punching, kicking, 5 rounds. There are so many things Dricus does exceptionally well that no other competitor Khamzat has ever brought to the table including his physical prowess.

Great. You have awesome underdog odds on the guy who does all that stuff amazingly well vs the one dimensional wrestler who sucks at everything else and gets controlled by a smaller amateur wrestler. He probably doesn't even know MMA includes striking, kicking, punching (because apparently kicking and punching aren't included in striking LOL?).

Congrats on your guaranteed windfall from this mismatch that Chimaev is totally overmatched in.

 

[MMAFanCal]

Great. You have awesome underdog odds on the guy who does all that stuff amazingly well vs the one dimensional wrestler who sucks at everything else and gets controlled by a smaller amateur wrestler. He probably doesn't even know MMA includes striking, kicking, punching (because apparently kicking and punching aren't included in striking LOL?).

Congrats on your guaranteed windfall from this mismatch that Chimaev is totally overmatched in.

I am not saying Khamzat is overmatched. I am countering the narrative that somehow wrestling is going to be the decider of this fight. It is an MMA fight. The joke is on people who think it will be a cakewalk for Khamzat. I have said it many times, it will be a tough and very competitive fight. I personally believe Dricus is going to win, but it will be a hard fought battle for him. Khamzat is the better wrestler while Dricus mixes things up better and has lots of experience of championship pressure/pacing and fighting 5 rounds. It is just straight up facts.

Speaking of grappling, to me a glorified sparring match this thread is not nearly as impressive as Dricus taking part in an actual submission tournament where Dricus went 1v5 where he fought 5 Gracie Barra BJJ participants. 3 of them had black belts. Two of them were over 90 KG (Dricus was over 100 KG and off-season). Still, Dricus went one after the other with 5 high level BJJ submission specialists with minimal rests between matches and still managed submitted all of them. Again, it is the fact that he went 40- 45 minutes with 10 minutes max alloted to each match.

 

[rjmbrd]

Khamzat has 3 ranked opponents.

- controversial decision win to Burns, got knocked down
- majority decision win to no-notice Usman, looked beatable after round 1
- freak-injury win over Whittaker, who had a broken bone / preexisting injury

There is absolutely nothing in Khamzat's entire fighting history that recommends he's going to summarily beat Dricus. We all know he's very dangerous in the first round, but he looks completely average after that. DDP would have M U R D E R E D both Usman and Burns.

IMO Khamzat has a decent shot at getting a sub in the first round, but after that he's the one in trouble.

 

[mkess101]

I am not saying Khamzat is overmatched. I am countering the narrative that somehow wrestling is going to be the decider of this fight. It is an MMA fight. The joke is on people who think it will be a cakewalk for Khamzat. I have said it many times, it will be a tough and very competitive fight. I personally believe Dricus is going to win, but it will be a hard fought battle for him. Khamzat is the better wrestler while Dricus mixes things up better and has lots of experience of championship pressure and fighting 5 rounds. It is just facts.

Speaking of grappling, to me a glorified sparring match this thread is not nearly as impressive as Dricus taking part in an actual submission tournament where Dricus went 1v5 where he fought 5 Gracie Barra BJJ participants. 3 of them had black belts. Two of them were over 90 KG (Dricus was over 100 KG and off-season). Still, Dricus went one after the other with minimal rests between matches and submitted all of them. Again, it is the fact that he went 40- 45 minutes with 10 minutes max alloted to each match.

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Well, the good news is we'll find out soon enough.

For the record (and I've said this previously)--I have bets on Khamzat and think he wins but I'm not foolish enough to count out DDP.

 

[MMAFanCal]

Well, the good news is we'll find out soon enough.

For the record (and I've said this previously)--I have bets on Khamzat and think he wins but I'm not foolish enough to count out DDP.

Well, I agree. Good thing is you are thinking objectively. However, I have seen the narrative all too often that Khamzat runs through Dricus in 1.

 

[Hitdepruns]

The only thing i know is The African hit way harder than Kamaru or Gilbert. Anything can happen.

 

[mkess101]

Well, I agree. Good thing is you are thinking objectively. However, I have seen the narrative all too often that Khamzat runs through Dricus in 1.

I think that's because if Khamzat does win, it's somewhat likely he runs through DDP.

But the "if" still matters, if that makes sense. Khamzat backers are gonna be pretty unlikely to say "I think Khamazat wins a hard fought decision" given his style, right?

 

[Luthien]

Khamzat has 3 ranked opponents.

- controversial decision win to Burns, got knocked down
- majority decision win to no-notice Usman, looked beatable after round 1
- freak-injury win over Whittaker, who had a broken bone / preexisting injury

There is absolutely nothing in Khamzat's entire fighting history that recommends he's going to summarily beat Dricus. We all know he's very dangerous in the first round, but he looks completely average after that. DDP would have M U R D E R E D both Usman and Burns.

IMO Khamzat has a decent shot at getting a sub in the first round, but after that he's the one in trouble.

Well said

 

[Bradillac]

I have huge respect for Dricus but Chimaev is just on a different level. The more I think about this fight the more I realize Chimaev is gonna finish him in the first round.

Chimaev is technically very high level.

Dricus is prone to alot of errors and that is just his fighting style but you can´t afford that with someone like Chimaev. He is gonna capitalize on the first error Dricus makes mark my words

You’re right, Chimaev is on a different level. A level or two below DDP. Their résumé’s speak for themselves.

 

[Al Tair]

Chimaev will finish him in the first round.
Dricuss has good jiu jutsu but it kind of works against him here as it gives him a false sense of security when getting taken down, Khamzat is a slick mofo and will certainly look to take advantage of the holes in Dricuss game.

 

[wisdom blows]

If he was on another level he never would have had to fight life and death with Gilbert Burns at a lower weight class.

DDP is not last minute Holland, or short notice up a weight class Usman.

No one who can't finish John "No wrestling" Phillips in a whole round of top control is beating DDP.

Trust me, brother, DDP is going to slaughter this guy. They will scraping what's left of Chimaev up from the octagon to send home to his family in a bag. Won't be a proper luggage-sized bad either because there won't be enough left of him for that. Half a small carry on case will be enough.

DDP went life and death with Brunson and Strickland lmao

 

[fortheo]

He could sprawle into a D´arc, Arm Triangle, Gulliotine, or Anaconda. Chimaev uses all of these. Chimaev is flexible with his sub choices

I saw a video about the importance of downblocking against Chimaev, and I think that's a real option for DDP. Harder said than done, though.

DDP is very prone to error because that is part of his game to get wild and what not.

Chimaev is like a Leopard with a single error Dricus is done and dusted

Khamzat's shots are largely dependent on athleticism, which we see him lose fast. He also has mostly a pro-active shot, not reactive to his opponents openings.

Khamzat will get dricus down in rounds one and two almost certainly. Most people agree with this.

 

[fortheo]

Dricus is not at the level of Usman in wrestling nor grapplling nor will he learn the amount of knowledge Usman has in just one camp. Kamaru has been wrestling and grappling his whole life.

And he got away with a hail marry.. Chimaev´s most sub is not even RNC. Dricus will make an error as he is prone to it mark my words. He will sprawle into something and Chimaev will make him pay immediately

DDP is arguably the most well rounded grappler chimaev will have faced. Burns had great bjj, but average wrestling. Usman had very good wrestling, but average BJJ. DDP has better bjj than usman, and better wrestling than burns -- he's a well rounded grappler, while also being the biggest.

I'm kind of more worried about chimaev catching dricus by surprised with a big strike

 

[RockyLockridge]

I love dricus willingness to take on this challenge and specifically asking for this fight, makes me feel that Dricus is super duper confident he wins this fight. This fight is two fighters at their peak fighting the hardest fights of their careers.

I guess why I lean DDP other than him being my favourite current champ, he can dig deep. He has heart. We've not seen Khamzat get beat up and fight back yet, just flashed by burns the one time. I want to see if khamzat can take damage, not get gassed and keep fighting. I already know dricus can.

 

[Aurelian]

DDP is arguably the most well rounded grappler chimaev will have faced. Burns had great bjj, but average wrestling. Usman had very good wrestling, but average BJJ. DDP has better bjj than usman, and better wrestling than burns -- he's a well rounded grappler, while also being the biggest.

I'm kind of more worried about chimaev catching dricus by surprised with a big strike

This is something hardly even talked about yet it's very true. Khamzat has power and we've seen him get knockouts before. Of course, with the wrestling threat this becomes even more pronounced. He definitely has more than one path to victory other than a sub. Either strikes standing or on the ground.

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

DDP is fucking toast.