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I'm Officially A Douche...Just Ordered a E-Cigarette Starter Kit.

Don't do it. Don't smoke anything. Seriously.

At the moment you're mostly a casual smoker, and you're deciding to take the next step.

It's in your best interest to take it in the other direction. Otherwise, one day you'll be smoking much, much more, and quitting will be a lot more difficult.
 
No doubt. But he could be standing 30 feet away from her and she would still act like he was totally putting her out by vaping. I know this because people do it to me.
Idk man. Even when I vape at an establishment where it's permitted, I always exhale downwards.
 
No doubt. But he could be standing 30 feet away from her and she would still act like he was totally putting her out by vaping. I know this because people do it to me.
I always ask people if I can smoke if I'm within eyesight and they can hear me talk without yelling. Even if they are strangers. Even if I was there first. Even if the wind is blowing in opposite direction of them.

I realize it's off-putting to most people, so I really don't think they even have to look at if they don't want to.
 
Don't do it. Don't smoke anything. Seriously.

At the moment you're mostly a casual smoker, and you're deciding to take the next step.

It's in your best interest to take it in the other direction. Otherwise, one day you'll be smoking much, much more, and quitting will be a lot more difficult.
Don't worry. I have a Plan B. lol

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No doubt. But he could be standing 30 feet away from her and she would still act like he was totally putting her out by vaping. I know this because people do it to me.

Maybe you're just really ugly.

I smoked for a very long time and nobody ever gave me dirty looks outside.
 
Juul is fine, I'd only recommend the mint one though, the rest of the flavors are vile. The one that's supposed to be "tobacco" was clearly made by someone who has never in their life tasted tobacco and tested by people who have never smoked.
I like American Spirit, light green box, so mint is probably the one for me anyway.
 
Don't worry. I have a Plan B. lol

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Every heavy smoker has been exactly where you are now and decided to escalate. Whatever you do, appreciate that you're making the decision to be a heavier smoker.
 
Every heavy smoker has been exactly where you are now and decided to escalate. Whatever you do, appreciate that you're making the decision to be a heavier smoker.
I see where you're coming from, but I that's not quite the case for me..

I know that the real magic for me is the moment of inhale/exhale. I like seeing puffing and seeing the smoke leave. I'm also aware that this is similar to the sensation that I associate with meditation. But, I don't really have the time to meditate for 30 min every time I get stressed at work. (And please, if you don't meditate offer no counterpoint.) An e-cig is just a lazier way of getting that initial moment of calm without side effects of full-on tobacco. I'm attempting to duplicate that lazier effect with less symptoms with the goal of eventually quitting.

I didn't say this earlier, but I don't smoke on the weekends. I only smoke when I'm working. Literally. Hopefully that puts things in perspective. I'm just trying to manage a work trigger until I replace it with something healthier.
 
I see where you're coming from, but I that's not quite the case for me..

I know that the real magic for me is the moment of inhale/exhale. I like seeing puffing and seeing the smoke leave. I'm also aware that this is similar to the sensation that I associate with meditation. But, I don't really have the time to meditate for 30 min every time I get stressed at work. (And please, if you don't meditate offer no counterpoint.) An e-cig is just a lazier way of getting that initial moment of calm without side effects of full-on tobacco. I'm attempting to duplicate that lazier effect with less symptoms with the goal of eventually quitting.

I didn't say this earlier, but I don't smoke on the weekends. I only smoke when I'm working. Literally. Hopefully that puts things in perspective. I'm just trying to manage a work trigger until I replace it with something healthier.

Seriously, stop. Almost everyone does the same mental gymnastics you're doing here. Trust me on this.

Anyways, I've said my piece.
 
Read this book and you'll never smoke again. Going on three years in September.
 
I know that the real magic for me is the moment of inhale/exhale.
You know what pops into my mind after reading that? A clip from an interview of a very high John Frusciante I saw a long time ago. He talked about how he felt that the same beauty he sees in music also exists in heroin. Anyway, not that I'm comparing you to an extremely gifted drug addict or anything.
I didn't say this earlier, but I don't smoke on the weekends.
LoL - not fucking yet you don't sweetie. You are dab smack in the middle becoming hooked. This is the stage where you're attempting to negotiate with your addiction.

Sadly, by the end of this year you will probably be spiking chip shots of al capone between your toes every Friday night. Ya know - just enough help you find the time you need for that 30 minutes (maybe a little more) of meditation that's supposed to be so awesome.
 
I don't know why there is so much hate for people who vape. As a non-smoker, a smoker turned vaper is a win for me because at least the 2nd hand vaping smoke doesn't make me cough and gag.

Vape smells like ass and smokers had shame. Vapers walk around blowing that foul shit all over the place.
 
Yeah, you're right. Vape is not the reason for such behaviour.
 
You know what pops into my mind after reading that? A clip from an interview of a very high John Frusciante I saw a long time ago. He talked about how he felt that the same beauty he sees in music also exists in heroin. Anyway, not that I'm comparing you to an extremely gifted drug addict or anything.LoL - not fucking yet you don't sweetie. You are dab smack in the middle becoming hooked. This is the stage where you're attempting to negotiate with your addiction.

Sadly, by the end of this year you will probably be spiking chip shots of al capone between your toes every Friday night. Ya know - just enough help you find the time you need for that 30 minutes (maybe a little more) of meditation that's supposed to be so awesome.
I have no idea what any of that means. lol
 
Seriously, stop. Almost everyone does the same mental gymnastics you're doing here. Trust me on this.

Anyways, I've said my piece.
Uh thanks. And I hope you kick whatever you're addicted to. You're clearly associating a strong personal addiction to something with my weekday smoking. lol
 
Uh thanks. And I hope you kick whatever you're addicted to. You're clearly associating a strong personal addiction to something with my weekday smoking. lol

I kicked smoking years ago.

I was relating my experiences with going from a weekday smoker to a heavy smoker, because that's what happened with every heavy smoker and most casual smokers.

And we all had stupid fairy tales about what made our experience different, like your "meditation".

But feel free to ignore me. It's not like I was exactly you and ended up a heavy smoker for twenty years or anything.
 
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