Media "If not for Jon Jones I would have got a title shot long ago" - Volkov

[Deleted member 609094]

Stop pretending like Pav + Blaydes (1-1 with and not even 1-0) is somehow better than Gane + Stipe.

Tom isn’t some superior champion and he’s not even more active. Y’all just hate Jones.

SAD

No more Coors light for you buddeh

 

[DougieJones]

You dumb fuck said Jones isn’t valuable because of PPVs and then cowered when I pointed out Toms.

Enjoy your cake and eating it too

Did you forget to take your anti-retard meds today? Literally nowhere did I say anything about Tom. I never replied or talked to you about jack shit either.

I have no idea why you're mongo-ing out but chill out doofus

 

[Hdfi]

Stop pretending like Pav + Blaydes (1-1 with and not even 1-0) is somehow better than Gane + Stipe.

it is. Stipe in 2024 would get KOed badly by both of them. That version of Stipe was too old and washed. Gane is good but he lost to Volkov who lost to Aspinall.

Pav hadn’t even beaten Blaydes when Jones/Stipe was announced. Stipe was ranked ahead. Pav was still made the backup but the UFC moronically made Pav/Tom when Jones pulled out instead of Stipe/Pav.

Stop with the revisionist history

the UFC officially announced that fight on July 7th. Pavlovich had already defeated Blaydes and was the obvious #1 contender. Stipe wasn't even ranked on FightMatrix or any other decent ranking system due to inactivity. Jones pulled out and there was no reason to reschedule that fight.

 

[Pierce 34]

"If not for Jon Jones I would have got a title shot long ago" - Volkov

Where did you come where did you go? Where did you come from steroid using Jones

 

[Fedor Fan]

Volkov with the lank factor would actually be am interesting fight for Jones.

 

[Bojka]

It's time to strip Jon. I agree Volkov should fight Aspinall after he got robbed against Gane.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Combed hair Volkov will fight for a belch

 

[Alpha_T83]

Volkov is correct. As much as a piece of human garbage as Jon Jones is, ultimately it's Dana White's fault for allowing this fiasco to go on.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Pav hadn’t even beaten Blaydes when Jones/Stipe was announced. Stipe was ranked ahead. Pav was still made the backup but the UFC moronically made Pav/Tom when Jones pulled out instead of Stipe/Pav.

Stop with the revisionist history

Sorry, what? As others have said on this forum: gonna need some receipts for that.

The earliest actual announcement (not rumor) of Jones vs Stipe I can find is July 2023. Pavlovich beat Blaydes in April 2023, over 2 months before the announcement of Jones/Stipe @ UFC 295.

Also, every single July 2023 ranking website I have found had Pavlovich in the top 5, and Stipe unranked due to being retired and not having fought in over 2 years at that time. Can you link me your July 2023 rankings with Stipe ranked above Pavlovich? Again, gonna need some receipts for that statement.

It sounds like you are the one guilty of revisionist history.

Combat Press MMA Rankings: July 2023

Every month, Combat Press will provide MMA rankings for each weight class from heavyweight to flyweight, as well as the pound-for-pound rankings (including all genders). Note: the numbers in parentheses represent the fighter’s ranking from the previous month. Francis Ngannou (1) Jon Jones (2)...

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[Just Creed]

Yes it was Jones fault he got KOd by Lewis with 10 seconds left 7 years ago

How does a ko from 7 years ago mean he can't get a title shot nowadays?

 

[RemyR]

I mean he's not wrong

 

[Tito Tapped]

Oh look, you making more Jon Jones threads. Don't throw another tantrum and slide in my DMs about it this time.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

#3 Pav was set to fight #4 Blaydes in April 2023 in a division that had no champ. If Jones didn't cash in on a free HW title shot in March, then that was the vacant belt fight. Defense and loss against Tom in November, maybe even could have got done sooner since that would have been negotiating a fight between 2 active fighters as opposed to Jones and Stipe. Defenses after that would have likely come much quicker because no interim/undisputed tie-ups.

Volkov was #7 in 2022 after losing to Tom. Since then, he finished #8 Rozen & #14 Romanov in the first round, finished #6 Tuivasa in round 2, and handily beat #3 Pav. He became #3 only behind Tom and Gane, so yeah, he was almost definitely the pick for a shot and would never have needed to fight Gane and get robbed.

 

[markg171]

Volkov's 4 fight stretch after the Aspinall loss was more deserving of a title shot than Stipe's coming off of a KO loss and soft retirement.

You guys constantly bitch about Stipe's title shot but say nothing about Tom's or Blaydes off only 1 win.

Stop with the fake outrage.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

You guys constantly bitch about Stipe's title shot but say nothing about Tom's or Blaydes off only 1 win.

Stop with the fake outrage.

Is Tom the champ?

 

[markg171]

it is. Stipe in 2024 would get KOed badly by both of them. That version of Stipe was too old and washed. Gane is good but he lost to Volkov who lost to Aspinall.

I like how you're doing the dumb thing of not comparing Gane/Pav (titleshot) and Stipe/Blaydes (defence) like you obviously should've.

Tom's reign isn't better than Jones and it's beyond dumb to pretend that like you guys constantly try to.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

I like how you're doing the dumb thing of not comparing Gane/Pav (titleshot) and Stipe/Blaydes (defence) like you obviously should've.

Tom's reign isn't better than Jones and it's beyond dumb to pretend that like you guys constantly try to.

Compare Pav/Gane for the title and Blaydes/Stipe for the defense? Don't mind if I do.

Pav was in a more title worthy position than Gane. Gane was picked because it was a vacant title fight, so they go with name value more than merit in this situations.

Blaydes was in much better of a position than Stipe as a title contender. He actually had a win, a prior win over the guy with the title, and was actually active and fight recently enough that he was obviously eligible for a ranking, as opposed to Stipe who shouldn't even have had a number by his name.

So a Pav win was better than a Gane win for the shot & Blaydes was a better contender than Stipe.

The Tom reign is much better.

 

[orca]

yeah volkov a long time journeyman
dude been fighting since stipes era
there was alot of hype around him

wonder why he hasnt taken a title shot back then
he has more fights than stipe lmfao

 

[Mike]

It's good to see him saying this, because when a champ holds a belt hostage and just blatantly ducks it doesn't just hurt the top guy. It hurts everyone and it's putting all the contenders further back from their title shots than they should be.

 

[Blastbeat]

yeah volkov a long time journeyman
dude been fighting since stipes era
there was alot of hype around him

wonder why he hasnt taken a title shot back then
he has more fights than stipe lmfao

Volkov isnt really a big talker nor is he flashy in his style. The UFC chose other contenders over Volkov in the past. He also would get very close and then lose one critical fight. He has turned that around and is on the best streak of his career currently. And imo, he should've won that fight vs Gane. Really bad decision.

Tom ran through him a few years ago, and i dont see another fight going too much differently, but Volkov has done enough to get a title shot. Not sure how Volkov vs Jones would go; its admittedly a fight i never thought would happen. But the UFC needs to take action to keep the HW division moving.