If Karelin did not lose the clinch, would he have beaten Gardner by decision?

[Te Huna Matata]

The karelin mma fight was a work

It had rope breaks FFS!

 

[beastman]

Karelin forever!

 

[SeattleFightFan]

He would have needed to lose alot more weight. He was pretty immobile IIRC. He just kept hitting yoshida on the way in. Yoshida was a good fighter,but he didnt have to tools to deal with this situation.

A fast kickboxer circling and picking his shots would have put Gardner down. We dont know how Gardner would have done when hurt by strikes.

Indeed. Cro Cop would have wrecked Gardner just as horrifically as he did Yoshida. Or maybe even more horrifically; with all that weight Gardner was carrying, it would have been ugly.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Karelin was just a shadow of himself back then. He was full of injuries. Also there has not been any real HW wrestlers those guys are just lazy and fat. Except for Karelin back in the day.

Right.

The guy finally lost after 15 years of dominance. He lost 0-1.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

But I am confused that Karelin tried repeatedly doing a lift when he was 0-1 behind instead of doing a bridge rolling.

Again, good question. You really should ask this in the grappling room. https://forums.sherdog.com/forums/grappling-technique.12/.

You will only continue to get side conversations and thread hijacks here in Heavyweights (including mine).

Here's some help framing the question. You might actually get answers if you help a bit more:

Bout is here.
Bout starts around 2 minutes in
Point is awarded at 6:30 minutes in. About halfway through the match.

This is assuming you actually want answers to your questions, of course. Maybe you prefer the random discussion and are perfectly content with this thread. If so, ignore this post. Cheers.

 

[mjfan23]

Would Jones have beaten Matt Hamill if not for the elbow rule?

 

[ijngf]

Would Jones have beaten Matt Hamill if not for the elbow rule?

Almost for sure.

 

[dickcheney]

Stop playing dumb.

Ooohhh name calling

 

[beastman]

Right.

The guy finally lost after 15 years of dominance. He lost 0-1.

Not like Gardner hit a Karelin lift on him

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Karelin's daughter is pretty cute

 

[dragmaster]

I would kill to know what went into making Karelin. As in what supplements and in what doses

Creatine monohydrate
Vegan protein
Soluble vitamin d