Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

So who do you think in our government is not supporting the Oligarchs?
I'm fairly certain ALL politicians have taken high sums of money from wealth.

Whether you would consider someone like Illinois governor JB Pritzker and his brother Thomas/ entire family as oligarchs is up in the air considering what a pathetically shameless hack you are.
 
My reply didn't allude to any political perspective. The crux of my post was in regards to our Marines (soldiers) stressed here at home which seemingly would be a walk in the park from being in the middle of ground warfare.

Do you agree?

Are Marines not soldiers?
Marines are not soldiers. They are Marines. Soldiers belong to the Army and have a completely different mission to Marines.

Stress in unavoidable and we are taught to manage it not erase it. It is a necessary part of vigilance. So, there should always be a manageable level of stress present to prevent complacency and maintain vigilance.

Additionally, there is no comparison between active combat and being instructed to police civilians (which is not allowed except in highly specific situations). There are a great deal of issues tied to deploying service members against civilians and one wrong move could lead to serious legal action or serious damage to the trust built between the military and civilians.

So, I do not agree
 
Marines are not soldiers. They are Marines. Soldiers belong to the Army and have a completely different mission to Marines.
Great info thanks. Marines FTW
Stress in unavoidable and we are taught to manage it not erase it. It is a necessary part of vigilance. So, there should always be a manageable level of stress present to prevent complacency and maintain vigilance.
Additionally, there is no comparison between active combat and being instructed to police civilians (which is not allowed except in highly specific situations). There are a great deal of issues tied to deploying service members against civilians and one wrong move could lead to serious legal action or serious damage to the trust built between the military and civilians.

So, I do not agree
You don't agree. I see, so being under fire in the middle of ground combat in a foreign land offers a lesser stress than being home and trying to keep the peace?
 
I'm fairly certain ALL politicians have taken high sums of money from wealth.

Whether you would consider someone like Illinois governor JB Pritzker and his brother Thomas/ entire family as oligarchs is up in the air considering what a pathetically shameless hack you are.
I will let you in on a secret, look at the billions spent to get someone elected in 2024. Yes billions, with a B, and you tell me, if this country is still, We the People.

Hell We the People have been yelling for the Epstein files for 8 years, and too bad both sides are in it, because if it was only one side was in it, it surely would have been released by now. NOw Trump is invading the 4th largest economy in the world to distract us from him suppressing the Epstein files.
 
I will let you in on a secret, look at the billions spent to get someone elected in 2024. Yes billions, with a B, and you tell me, if this country is still, We the People.

Hell We the People have been yelling for the Epstein files for 8 years, and too bad both sides are in it, because if it was only one side was in it, it surely would have been released by now. NOw Trump is invading the 4th largest economy in the world to distract us from him suppressing the Epstein files.
It's jump up on your soapbox time, eh 44Nutjob?

I'll ask the question. Do you consider JB Pritzker / Thomas Pritzker / Pritzker family to be oligarchs?
 
Is mexico also deporting american immigrants, with legal status, to prisons in other countries? Did Mexico bring bunch of illegal americans to work 6-7 days a week, for below minimum wage, on its farms and then kick them out of Mexico?

You really think things are either black or white? Why do you post bullshit from random morons from social media that brought nothing good to the world?
We didn't deport Mexicans to El Salvador. And we didn't bring them in. They came in all on their own. And they knew it was wrong.
 
I see, so being under fire in the middle of ground combat in a foreign land offers a lesser stress than being home and trying to keep the peace?
Not even remotely what I said.

Being under a manageable level of stress in one scenario does not directly dictate your ability to perform in a higher stress scenario. And at no point did I indicate that they were more stressed then they would be in combat.

We are legally not allowed to enforce laws over civilians and being deployed against people you swore to protect is a big issue for most service members for obvious reasons. The trust between military and civilians is treated as sacred and we work hard to maintain it to the best of our ability.

I seriously question the abilities of individuals who are feeling 0 stress from this situation. It should stress you out, you should be vigilant, and you should be at the ready to make hard decisions. That's part of being who we are.
 
Sending in marines is retarded. What’s wrong with just the National Guard? Their job description is domestic emergencies. Should be enough.

Problem with Trump is he has to make everything a big show.
I would assume the number of protestors is much higher than the numbers of NG and local authorities. If this is the case what would be the alternative, beyond expecting Karen Bass and Newsome to handle keeping their communities from burning to the ground... again?
 
I would assume the number of protestors is much higher than the numbers of NG and local authorities. If this is the case what would be the alternative, beyond expecting Karen Bass and Newsome to handle keeping their communities from burning to the ground... again?
Maybe send more national guard?

Logistically there is no reason to send marines. Optically it makes sense for Trump, but there’s no logic to it outside of how it looks for him
 
Maybe send more national guard?

Logistically there is no reason to send marines. Optically it makes sense for Trump, but there’s no logic to it outside of how it looks for him
Sending Marines just makes the situation worse because we aren't trained for these situations. LAPD had to divert personnel to monitor us just so the situation didn't escalate.

The NG and PD should be more than capable of handling this
 
at no point did I indicate that they were more stressed then they would be in combat.
This was my point. You disagreed? No?

Do you agree with my claim that heated ground warfare away from home would be considered MORE stressful than what you are describing below?<RIP>
We are legally not allowed to enforce laws over civilians and being deployed against people you swore to protect is a big issue for most service members for obvious reasons. The trust between military and civilians is treated as sacred and we work hard to maintain it to the best of our ability.

I seriously question the abilities of individuals who are feeling 0 stress from this situation. It should stress you out,
I agree, however there are levels to stress. Armed forces who face combat come home with shell shock, PTSD, etc. etc. Would you make the claim that keeping the peace is going to affect them in the same way?
you should be vigilant, and you should be at the ready to make hard decisions. That's part of being who we are.
Sounds good, I'm pumped up now!
 
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