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Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

If only we took each incident and judged it as its own.

Meaning...

This specific incident, that dumb ass chick committed battery.

Does that mean other incidents in which ICE blatantly abuses authority, violates rights, uses excessive force, are suddenly not weighed as grievances to have?

Don't be silly man. We can all play that stupid X game where your algorithm feeds you whatever fuels your rage more at "look at the other side doing this stupid outrageous thing!!!"

Do better.
It’s called the law and common sense
 
It’s called the law and common sense

Do you lack reading comprehension? I already said, in that specific incident, she's being a retard whos committing a crime.

If you have more critical thinking skills past "let me go on X and let it feed me whatever validates my current beliefs", hopefully you'll understand what my initial post is trying to convey.

If you dont care about good faith conversations and what "nuance" is all about, carry on spamming your X clips.
 
Do you lack reading comprehension? I already said, in that specific incident, she's being a retard whos committing a crime.

If you have more critical thinking skills past "let me go on X and let it feed me whatever validates my current beliefs", hopefully you'll understand what my initial post is trying to convey.

If you dont care about good faith conversations and what "nuance" is all about, carry on spamming your X clips.
Bla bla bla. Selective outrage
 
If only we took each incident and judged it as its own.

Meaning...

This specific incident, that dumb ass chick committed battery.

Does that mean other incidents in which ICE blatantly abuses authority, violates rights, uses excessive force, are suddenly not weighed as grievances to have?

Don't be silly man. We can all play that stupid X game where your algorithm feeds you whatever fuels your rage more at "look at the other side doing this stupid outrageous thing!!!"

Do better.
So there is not post from you judging ICE as a whole organization, off a few reported famous interactions with 0.0001% of their agents ?
 
So there is not post from you judging ICE as a whole organization, off a few reported famous interactions with 0.0001% of their agents ?

Good point. I like you so I'll let you in on the difference though.

ICE is an organization. A formal, governmental organization that has official capacities and roles, leadership and hierarchical system of function. They are taxpayer funded, and recognized to be representatives of the State/Country. They swear an oath and they have guns and badges. They have training and protocols, policies, code of conduct. We SHOULD expect more of them and from them.

A protestor can do something stupid and I'm going to treat that specific incident as such, and protestor doing a stupid thing.

But when even 1 ICE agent (we both know there's plenty of video evidence out where violations, abuses, right infringements are in the multiple now) is found to have committed misconduct, it is on the ORGANIZATION to swiftly hold them accountable. If there is no accountability or disciplinary procedures, then the Organization does not meet the expectations and standards that taxpayers should expect. And thus, it loses credibility and most importantly the trust of the public.
 
Good point. I like you so I'll let you in on the difference though.

ICE is an organization. A formal, governmental organization that has official capacities and roles, leadership and hierarchical system of function. They are taxpayer funded, and recognized to be representatives of the State/Country. They swear an oath and they have guns and badges. They have training and protocols, policies, code of conduct. We SHOULD expect more of them and from them.

A protestor can do something stupid and I'm going to treat that specific incident as such, and protestor doing a stupid thing.

But when even 1 ICE agent (we both know there's plenty of video evidence out where violations, abuses, right infringements are in the multiple now) is found to have committed misconduct, it is on the ORGANIZATION to swiftly hold them accountable. If there is no accountability or disciplinary procedures, then the Organization does not meet the expectations and standards that taxpayers should expect. And thus, it loses credibility and most importantly the trust of the public.
That's a fair point. I was thinking more along the lines of the example: 'They look like brown-shirt murder Nazis, that's nothing more than a Trump hitman crew.' That's the kind of psychological projection I'm talking about, which I don't think you're guilty of. I was making a general point for the thread, not so much a direct challenge to you. I should have been more specific, my mistake.
 

‘Grassroots’ anti-ICE campaigns funded by left-wing billionaire donors: sources​



.....Walter says there are multiple groups with different names and different strands of funding to make things deliberately obscure and hard to track.

“The mainstream media is very happy to always pretend it’s just poor ordinary Americans outraged by this horrible injustice. But, no, the guy who organized it is a leader in five or 10 different entities.....
 
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