How is the WWE worth only 1.4b market cap?

Haha thats funny TS because That's insanely low compared to the 4b price tag that the UFC sold for.

WWE is much more widespread. They have a much larger fan base. Their youtube videos consistenly get a million views. The WWE network is making bank.

How did the UFC sell for 4b? Can someone with actual credentialed business experience weight their opinion on this. I don't want to hear opinion for unqualifiedbasement dwellers who gives an opinion on which they know nothing about. Most of you are idiots.
I have a PhD in business and accounting, from what I saw in the news and from the backgrounds of the new owners, I am confident I know why UFC was able to sell at 4 billion, it's because
they have Conor McGregor and WWE doesnt
 
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This is another problem that WWE has, perception. It has been widely known since the 30's that wrestling is fake, and non-controversially so. There exists no one, even five year old children dying of brain cancer, that believes otherwise in the audience. Even more perverse is the insinuation that wrestling pretends to be real (even though it flamboyantly doesn't) and that is somehow a knock in the minds of people who hate the business. I can't fathom this mindset I see here, but let's think about this.

If Game of Thrones didn't pretend to be real then Emilia would take off her wig after her line and instead of CGI boobs we'd be looking at her wearing a blue latex outfit. Instead of a CGI dragon the actors would be cowering before little blue balls on sticks. But that would be nonsense.

If you think wrestling pretends to be real then explain a worked shoot. Outside of the last scene of Cop Rock I can't think of one in the history of television.

Plenty of people think it's real. There's people here that whine all the time here saying "it's not fake, it's pre-determined". No, Pride was pre-determined. Fake wrestling is straight up fake, and there are PLENTY of weirdos trying to push their corny drama onto others, and trying to legitimize what it is, and that's why it gets so much flak. i.e. this thread. Seems to be an inferiority problem, to be honest. Deep down the nerds know what it is, but over-compensate trying to make themselves and other believe that it isn't.

Reality is, most people don't want to watch two hot oily men with fake tans and big muscles pretend to wrestle each other. In most parts of the world, that is called gay porn, and it's not something I care to watch, and even less so call it anything resembling "real fighting".

There's a big difference in that, and a quality TV show or movie that is actually well-done visual art. Wrestling is not of that caliber. If you want to sit in your home and watch your cheesy F-level live circus sequences, then go right ahead. However, don't get mad when you get called out on it when people make threads like these, in a UFC section on an MMA forum nonetheless.
 
I have a PhD in business and accounting, from what I saw in the news and from the backgrounds of the new owners, I am confident I know why UFC was able to sell at 4 billion, it's because
they have Conor McGregor and WWE does

While you probably don't even have your high school diploma, I can at least say your logic and reasoning is almost spot on.
 
Plenty of people think it's real. There's people here that whine all the time here saying "it's not fake, it's pre-determined". No, Pride was pre-determined. Fake wrestling is straight up fake, and there are PLENTY of weirdos trying to push their corny drama onto others, and trying to legitimize what it is, and that's why it gets so much flak. i.e. this thread. Seems to be an inferiority problem, to be honest. Deep down the nerds know what it is, but over-compensate trying to make themselves and other believe that it isn't.

Reality is, most people don't want to watch two hot oily men with fake tans and big muscles pretend to wrestle each other. In most parts of the world, that is called gay porn, and it's not something I care to watch, and even less so call it anything resembling "real fighting".

There's a big difference in that, and a quality TV show or movie that is actually well-done visual art. Wrestling is not of that caliber. If you want to sit in your home and watch your cheesy F-level live circus sequences, then go right ahead. However, don't get mad when you get called out on it when people make threads like these, in a UFC section on an MMA forum nonetheless.
Pre-determined is fake, there is no difference there although Pride was almost an entirely legitimate promotion. The reason wrestling fans hate the word fake is because it stigmatizes the performers, even CM Punk mocked the business in this manner. Most troublesome the fake tag was used by WWE to escape litigation for their unsafe and unprofessional tactics that often exploit and ruin the performers' lives.

Paragraph two is simply wrong, many more people watch wrestling ESPECIALLY overseas. Even Japan (the third biggest traditional MMA market and the only other big economy to ever have a thriving scene) has a promotion that runs the Tokyo Dome annually and is effectively a full time company with 3 other mid-majors (the US has none of those) in the country. In the UK the scene is so massive WWE announced a UK title and a new roster of UK-only talent to get those dollars first (even without their biggest draw the biggest crowd in company history was in Wembley Stadium). If the USA has a wrestling problem it's the utter lack of competition that is shrinking the market.

Now everyone knows the acting isn't at the Mercury Theater level, nor could it be. But it mostly does the job, hell the world's biggest movie star is a damned wrestler and many people are watching reality TV. Not everything illuminates the human condition.
 
That's insanely low compared to the 4b price tag that the UFC sold for.

WWE is much more widespread. They have a much larger fan base. Their youtube videos consistently get a million views. The WWE network is making bank. Kids love their apparel and toy figures merchandise. They have the WWE studios and Total Divas. They are quite diversified compared to the UFC.

How did the UFC sell for 4b? Can someone with actual credentialed business experience weight their opinion on this. I don't want to hear opinion from unqualified basement dwellers who gives an opinion on which they know nothing about. Most of you are idiots.
You need to take a business class. /This is pretty dumb even for Sherdog.
 
I think the point is the UFC sold for way more than it was worth.
 
How would you know how much the UFC is actually worth?

Nobody can know for sure because they don't release their numbers (as they have no obligation to), but the extreme cost-cutting measures that WME went through as well as their outrageous demands for the new TV deal to me show that they overpaid and are desperate to recoup as much ROI asap.

And things aren't looking as rosy for the UFC moving forward. This could be Rousey's last fight, Conor is taking time off and talking about exploring opportunities outside of the UFC. And you have fighter's associations forming, lawsuits to deal with, etc.

There's no way the UFC was worth 4 billion. The Fertittas made off like bandits.
 
Nobody can know for sure because they don't release their numbers (as they have no obligation to), but the extreme cost-cutting measures that WME went through as well as their outrageous demands for the new TV deal to me show that they overpaid and are desperate to recoup as much ROI asap.

And things aren't looking as rosy for the UFC moving forward. This could be Rousey's last fight, Conor is taking time off and talking about exploring opportunities outside of the UFC. And you have fighter's associations forming, lawsuits to deal with, etc.

There's no way the UFC was worth 4 billion. The Fertittas made off like bandits.
You answered my question in the first sentence. The rest of your post is silly. And way to bring mcgregor into a thread that has nothing to do with him.
 
You answered my question in the first sentence. The rest of your post is silly. And way to bring mcgregor into a thread that has nothing to do with him.

Go play with the trolls and leave the real discussion to the big boys. Dummy.
 
I have an Ivy League MBA. Feel free to ask me specific questions here.
 
I think I'd rather believe the Business professionals at WME who have access to the UFC's numbers>>>Sherdoggers who think "they overpaid".

Did they take a risk ? absolutely but live sports is a massive market and tv deals alone can make a boatload of money for WME. There is still plenty of room to grow for mma and the ufc
 
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The Fertittas found the right sucker.
Lol, you posted a graph that shows the UFC is worth more...
 
Nobody can know for sure because they don't release their numbers (as they have no obligation to), but the extreme cost-cutting measures that WME went through as well as their outrageous demands for the new TV deal to me show that they overpaid and are desperate to recoup as much ROI asap.

And things aren't looking as rosy for the UFC moving forward. This could be Rousey's last fight, Conor is taking time off and talking about exploring opportunities outside of the UFC. And you have fighter's associations forming, lawsuits to deal with, etc.

There's no way the UFC was worth 4 billion. The Fertittas made off like bandits.
Please outline some of the extreme cost cutting and outrageous demands for their tv deal?
 
Real reason-

Homosexuality is becoming more and more socially accepted so the population of closeted homosexuals (aka WWE fans) is dwindling year by year.
 
Nobody can know for sure because they don't release their numbers (as they have no obligation to), but the extreme cost-cutting measures that WME went through as well as their outrageous demands for the new TV deal to me show that they overpaid and are desperate to recoup as much ROI asap.

And things aren't looking as rosy for the UFC moving forward. This could be Rousey's last fight, Conor is taking time off and talking about exploring opportunities outside of the UFC. And you have fighter's associations forming, lawsuits to deal with, etc.

There's no way the UFC was worth 4 billion. The Fertittas made off like bandits.

Firing Chuck Liddell and Matt Hughes <> Extreme cost cutting
 
Real reason-

Homosexuality is becoming more and more socially accepted so the population of closeted homosexuals (aka WWE fans) is dwindling year by year.

Great post, you should come around more often.
 
Plenty of people think it's real. There's people here that whine all the time here saying "it's not fake, it's pre-determined".

Find one. Quote them, for our entertainment and to prove you're not making shit up.
 
Lol, you posted a graph that shows the UFC is worth more...

The graph shows they generate similar revenue, with the WWE slightly in the lead. But no, it doesn't show that the UFC is worth more.
 

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