Law Hegseth shared detailed military plans in second Signal chat that included his wife and brother

[fortheo]

Pete hegseth: "It wasn't classified"

well, where did you get the information from?

Pete: "a general sent it to me on a classified system"


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[helltoupee]

I appreciate your good faith response, despite the allegation that i somehow misunderstand. You've contradicted yourself with your last paragraph. This "wait this out and laugh about it" clearly doesn't apply only to "establishment dems" - it applies to the voting public who will probably come out in sufficient numbers next election to oust Trump abd replace him with the next pro-corporate, business as usual democrat.

bernie sanders is a sheepdog who has already rolled over to the DNC and endorsed Clinton. It won't be him. It'll be someone who, like all of them, continues business as usual.

It is also positively NOT true that there are "wild differences" between the two parties. They are hand puppets on either hands of the corporate establishment.

This is what I'm talking about - both parties suck because they are fundamentally interested in maintaining the status quo and bipartisan tribalism is an important element of keeping the system going. Many people have a growing sense of this so they support the chaotic charlatan that is Trump- they'll support even a lecherous cretin like Trump just because he seems to be throwing a wrench in the gears of a system that's been ignoring the average American for decades.

"Own the libs" speaks to this, and you're right this sort of acidic cynicism is largely associated with the right, but it's enough of a problem on "the left' (to the extent there even IS a political left in America) to still be a concern. Some are carrying water for the democrats, some are sardonic critics who, like many Trump supporters, are deeply resentful at a fundamentally broken system and want to see the whole thing burn, or are caught up in moral superiority - it feels deeply validating to point out how it's the other side who is doing this.

America just needs real, viable political options. It's possible, they exist in democracies around the world.

Not sure how I contradicted myself by saying "Establishment Dems" are waiting things out. You may need to clarify.

What, exactly, do you expect the voting public to do about this?

For the record, I am of the opinion that the founding fathers of the US were intensely concerned with the idea that common people could possibly disrupt their landed interests. They certainly wrote about the worry that "the people" could form a revolution and remove their aristocratic foundations. Therefore they made sure to build in protections that disarm the "voting populace" from actually doing anything that the aristocrats didn't approve of. This is the main reason why we are not a direct democracy.

Sure, people will point to the disadvantages of being a direct democracy, and I would even agree with some of them. One that is never touted, but that I believe in, is a direct democracy lends power to the lowest common denominator. I don't think Trump would've ever been elected if it weren't for the billionaire class bending the knee and kissing the ring - especially types like Zuckerberg who weild enormous influence. That, and the Democrats inability to offer a viable candidate (which, granted was nowhere near as awful as Trump, not even in the same universe), but at the time, people didn't relate to "more of the same" from the Democrats, which resulted in a lot of apathy.

And you are correct, whether people fall victim to the constant messaging about "the left", there is no "left" in America, at least politically - they are simply more to the left than the Republicans.

In this country, we have a right, and a center-right. Joe Biden was a FN moderate Republican for crying out loud. It's just the Fox noise machine, as they've done since Nixon, coddles their viewers by appealing to their emotions - whether that be commies, socialists, Muslims, gays, or now, transgenders.

I don't think are far off at all, and actually agree with each other. If I may have been a little awkward and confusing, for that I do apologize.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- This guy is as dumb as a henchman from a 80's cartoon!

 

[Andy Capp]

Pete's as shrewd a military leader as Dump is playing trade war with China

I'd rather say he runs the military like Trump runs casinos.

 

[Osculater]

I'd rather say he runs the military like Trump runs casinos.

 

[AWilder]

Man, remember all those scandals the last sec def had, you know, the one that was fired because he was a DEI hire. Weird I can't remember any.

 

[tastaylvr]

Weak, trying to blame this on people who were fired. The people who got shown the door were his own people, people he hired to the Pentagon. It just shows what an utter incompetent failure whiskey-Pete is.

Imagine your department is so fragile that firing a few people can crumble your countries security smh

It just goes to show how out of touch with reality these guys are lol

 

[kflo]

MSN

Looks like some of the GOP is starting to turn on Whiskey Pete.
Don Bacon is a former Air Force General, so he definitely knows Whiskey Pete needs to go after constantly fucking up. Don't worry some dude on Fox News who has never served will try to convince the Rubes what Whiskey Pete has done is not a big deal, then pivot to minorities or Trannies and the Rube will be slowly nodding, yeah Pete needs to stay and then convince themselves Don Bacon is some sort of traitor.

Tony Guanciale is a former marine, and he knows as well….

 

[TheMoa]

Lol

As a graying 30 something year old I give him a pass on this one. A couple of stressful days and some of my hair white over night
Dude has been screwing up so much that his whole sideburn went white and he didnt figure it out that it dont show on his light skin.
Stressful times, that's why he needs a family support group, it all makes sense

 

[ermac88]

He absolutely hates himself and wishes he were American. He’d be waiting face down ass up with his cheeks spread at the border if there were ever an invasion.

Just a completely meaningless and pathetic existence. At least he has the War Room though, the one safe space he has in his life to feel his toughest where he can post 40k messages of shit talk on a karate forum from his mom’s basement in Alberta.

I havent followed this conversation.

I read the last sentence, with that laugh, and Im confident you are talking about a Joffrey looking clown

 

[Deorum]

Whiskey Pete was on Fox News this morning attacking the leakers which means Drunky got busted again using Signal App.
If you are not a drunk and incompetent you would feed the leakers fake news but instead Whiskey Pete is complaining about leakers leaking fake news which means he has for a second time pulled a Hillary and the Rubes will still defend him.

Also the irony of Whiskey Pete going on Fox complaining about the media is fucking hilarious

It looks like Trump just totally doesn't give a shit.

Lovely.

 

[ermac88]

But the DEI


Four star general, former head of CENTCOM recipient of the Silver Star

TV host, national guard officer , drunk who said "he'd stop drinking if nominated"

and shares national secrets on facebook messenger

 

[Deorum]

My only issue with his career was that he had no auditing experience which is usually a big deal for SecDef. I fully expect this to end in blood. And not just an isolated incident. People like this will not correct themselves until they are too far gone and past redemption.

Given Trump's completely apathetic reaction to all of this, it looks like he isn't going anywhere. I think part of that is down to how hard they had to work to get him confirmed in the first place. I pray this dude can get his shit together for the sake of the country, and active duty service members especially.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Can't wait till he drunk dials some houthi leader.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Given Trump's completely apathetic reaction to all of this, it looks like he isn't going anywhere. I think part of that is down to how hard they had to work to get him confirmed in the first place. I pray this dude can get his shit together for the sake of the country, and active duty service members especially.

Don't hold your breath man. I'm living the shit show every day. I picked a hell of a time to enlist lol. It's gonna get worse long before it gets better.

 

[GhostZ06]

Pete hegseth: "It wasn't classified"

well, where did you get the information from?

Pete: "a general sent it to me on a classified system"


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yeah a general isnt this fucking stupid. shitseth wasn't even a Lieutenant Colonel

 

[GrantB13]

It looks like Trump just totally doesn't give a shit.

Lovely.

"Find something new". And when the Signal story was new? "I think Mike Waltz is doing his best".

How can you call out corruption in government when the government just says "Baaaaahhh. Nothing to see here. We're not looking into anything".

 

[helltoupee]

It is also positively NOT true that there are "wild differences" between the two parties. They are hand puppets on either hands of the corporate establishment.

Missed the above part.

I would disagree with you here. It is much more nuanced than that. Yes, they do share that particular subset of qualities, but if you think the Trump administration (or the Bush I & II admins, or Reagan, or Nixon) are anything remotely close to the exact same, you are committing a fallacy of absolutes. There are no absolutes. One party has simply one agenda and one agenda only. Trickle down economics. Only one party at least tries to do things that are for the good of the country and the common citizen. Do they also cater to corporate overlords? Absolutely. Without question. That's why I said they share a set of commonalities with each other.

Remember in school when you would draw two circles that intersected each other a little bit? Those circles would represent the parties and their governance. The intersection, or subset, would be their similarities.

 

[Deorum]

Don't hold your breath man. I'm living the shit show every day. I picked a hell of a time to enlist lol. It's gonna get worse long before it gets better.

As mentioned earlier, the enlistments have actually been very strong.

 

[curryjunkie]

yeah a general isnt this fucking stupid.

Disagree, Mike Flynn is dumb as fuck..