Law Hegseth shared detailed military plans in second Signal chat that included his wife and brother

[tastaylvr]

This is one dedicated gimmick.

It’s not a gimmick lol. That poster is actually stupid. I thought he was a teen originally until I realised he has been posting here for over a decade.

 

[ShadowRun]

It is old news. Both of the chats happened at the same time, talking about the same planned Houthi strikes when this shit first blew up a month ago.

I was just curious about if that certain poster believes it or not..

 

[Deorum]

I was just curious about if that certain poster believes it or not..

It's a near certainty that this dropped because a bunch of people just got shown the door. It doesn't excuse anything, but it isn't something he fucked up on and then did the same damn thing weeks later. Also just lolz if it turns out to be retaliation of some sort for Hegseth putting a stop to ideas of striking Iranian nuclear facilities, which NYT claims he did.

 

[Deorum]

Utter and unwavering devotion to their cult, is what they want.

They can take a fucking hike, I know a bunch of world-class trails. It isn't ever going to happen because I am about the nation, period. Why the fuck would I, as non-partisan independent nationalist, be rooting and wishing for - nevermind predicting - the person in this extraordinarily powerful position to fail? That's hack shit. There were no celebrations going on in my household over the Afghanistan withdrawal disaster on account of the political points to be scored from it.

He essentially can.

SecDef is OP, with the POTUS himself being the only real check.

The United States Secretary of Defense (SecDef) is the head of the United States Department of Defense (DoD), the executive department of the U.S. Armed Forces; by custom a member of the Presidential Cabinet and by law a member of the National Security Council. The SecDef's position of authority over the armed forces is second only to that of the President of the United States, who is the Commander-in-Chief. Subject only to the orders of the President, the Secretary of Defense exercises command and control, for both administrative and operational purposes, over all DoD-administered service branches – the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Space Force – as well as the Coast Guard when its command is transferred to the Department of Defense. Because the SecDef is vested with legal powers that exceed those of any commissioned officer, and is second only to the President in the military hierarchy, its incumbent has sometimes unofficially been referred to as "deputy commander-in-chief".

 

[Libero cane v2]

Last time I asked this here, how the hell americans are so passive to everything that is going on, a guy answered "he was in his 40's and too tired to protest/give a fuck".

IMO its almost deserving. Ive heard my whole life americans asking "why people from country X dont just stand up to MADURO/PUTIN/ORTEGA/SADDAM/NSERT NAME" and fix their country. To see americans be so apathetic is very telling.

Those countries dont even have independent institutions to fight against autocrats. America is seeing their institutions being turned to shit and refusing to act.

It’s both hilarious and pathetic. Just goes to show how ridiculous the 2A argument about defending against tyrannical government is. These MFs can’t even get off the couch to protest a completely incompetent government. They ain’t toppling anything at any time.

 

[Khaosan]

It’s not a gimmick lol. That poster is actually stupid. I thought he was a teen originally until I realised he has been posting here for over a decade.

He absolutely hates himself and wishes he were American. He’d be waiting face down ass up with his cheeks spread at the border if there were ever an invasion.

Just a completely meaningless and pathetic existence. At least he has the War Room though, the one safe space he has in his life to feel his toughest where he can post 40k messages of shit talk on a karate forum from his mom’s basement in Alberta.

 

[syct23]

It’s both hilarious and pathetic. Just goes to show how ridiculous the 2A argument about defending against tyrannical government is. These MFs can’t even get off the couch to protest a completely incompetent government. They ain’t toppling anything at any time.

Calm down,

It’s not even protest or riot season yet. The weather still needs to clear up a bit and the kids are still off at school.

Give it until after Memorial Day, you’ll get your protest…

Patience.

 

[44nutman]

Whiskey Pete was on Fox News this morning attacking the leakers which means Drunky got busted again using Signal App.
If you are not a drunk and incompetent you would feed the leakers fake news but instead Whiskey Pete is complaining about leakers leaking fake news which means he has for a second time pulled a Hillary and the Rubes will still defend him.

Also the irony of Whiskey Pete going on Fox complaining about the media is fucking hilarious

 

[fortheo]

Seeing reports that the source of the second hegseth leak came from the secure messages of CENTCOM's commander, General Michael E. Kurilla

 

[curryjunkie]

Seeing reports that the source of the second hegseth leak came from the secure messages of CENTCOM's commander, General Michael E. Kurilla

imagine a room full of generals round a table and listening to hegseth's drivel trying to contain their derision..

 

[Rational Poster]

Whiskey Pete was on Fox News this morning attacking the leakers which means Drunky got busted again using Signal App.
If you are not a drunk and incompetent you would feed the leakers fake news but instead Whiskey Pete is complaining about leakers leaking fake news which means he has for a second time pulled a Hillary and the Rubes will still defend him.

Also the irony of Whiskey Pete going on Fox complaining about the media is fucking hilarious

Don't worry Trump got his paid Russian shill Tim Pool into the press room today, things will start to improve.

 

[helltoupee]

I hear you, mate. I guess a big part of my frustration is with the missing or totally inept opposition to this kind of brutish horror.

It's time for some serious fucking changes, clearly. It's equally clear, to me, that voting Democrat in the next election isn't anywhere near a suitable fix to this level of a problem.

Where is the democratic action in the streets, the demand for a more representative system, the demonstrations and strikes that would actually do something?

Instead, we have neck beards calling this "hilarious" and seeming like they actually even enjoy this kind of insanity because it's "the other side" doing it, meanwhile there are serious and tangible impacts on America, and the entire globe.

It's fucking absurd to " u mad bro " everything in life.

First, I am by no means a Democrat or a Republican - both parties are wildly different, yet they also share a subset of similarities that go beyond party politics that bothers me.

That said, you seem to be misunderstanding some things. Your statement about "neckbeards laughing about all of this" describes the typical person on the right. Emphasis on 'typical', because there are certainly exceptions to every rule, but the personality type you are describing, like this is all just a big funny game (and when cornered, these types usually will then only offer an argument that everyone is overreacting in taking this seriously) - those are almost always conservatives who just aren't going along with the madness of Trump, but don't have the balls to be seen agreeing with 'libtards' (as they call them).

So I kind of think you are misunderstanding the general dynamic in this country. If you go on Youtube or any social media and search for a 'liberal' channel, I would bet that 9 times out of 10 their content is going to be something about the absolute ridiculousness that is the Trump administration. Look at the protests - look at Bernie's recent rallies - especially in the bigger cities like LA.

And if you listen to most of these channels, they are begging and pleading for kind of what you are asking for. That these toothless Democrats actually stand up and call out the absolute hypocrisy of Congress. A few have - like Cory Booker and some others. If I were a Democrat and in Congress, I'd literally be yelling and screaming. If they booted me out, I'd be picketing on the front steps. Put it this way, I'd be making a hell of a lot more noise than most establishment Democrats right now.

And you know why most of these Establishment Dems aren't doing more? Because they know they will be a shoe-in for mid-terms if they just ride things out. In other words this is why I hate 21st century politicians. They do everything in their own self-interest first, and everything else second. Politics is looked at as something that can be profited from, rather than serving the public. They don't want to put their careers on the line because Trump doing bad thing is actually good for their own, personal career.

 

[44nutman]

Don't worry Trump got his paid Russian shill Tim Pool into the press room today, things will start to improve.

Please tell me he is wearing that wool hat to hide his baldness while in the press room.
That will definitely make me laugh.

 

[Rational Poster]

Please tell me he is wearing that wool hat to hide his baldness while in the press room.
That will definitely make me laugh.

Tim Pool is still wearing his wool hat to hide his baldness in the White House press room even though today is like the warmest day of the year so far.

 

[44nutman]

Tim Pool is still wearing his wool hat to hide his baldness in the White House press room even though today is like the warmest day of the year so far.

Glad he dressed up for White House press room.

I bet the same people who criticized Zelensky will give a 40 year old dude a pass for hiding his bald spot.

 

[GhostZ06]

lol at the dumb asses defending him. Are you guys fucking insane? Or were you always this sick

 

[Garibaldi]

It's a near certainty that this dropped because a bunch of people just got shown the door. It doesn't excuse anything, but it isn't something he fucked up on and then did the same damn thing weeks later. Also just lolz if it turns out to be retaliation of some sort for Hegseth putting a stop to ideas of striking Iranian nuclear facilities, which NYT claims he did.

Weak, trying to blame this on people who were fired. The people who got shown the door were his own people, people he hired to the Pentagon. It just shows what an utter incompetent failure whiskey-Pete is.

 

[pinger]

Don't worry Trump got his paid Russian shill Tim Pool into the press room today, things will start to improve.

Get him and Charlie Kirk to bow tie the horse shit

 

[BoomStronk]

First, I am by no means a Democrat or a Republican - both parties are wildly different, yet they also share a subset of similarities that go beyond party politics that bothers me.

That said, you seem to be misunderstanding some things. Your statement about "neckbeards laughing about all of this" describes the typical person on the right. Emphasis on 'typical', because there are certainly exceptions to every rule, but the personality type you are describing, like this is all just a big funny game (and when cornered, these types usually will then only offer an argument that everyone is overreacting in taking this seriously) - those are almost always conservatives who just aren't going along with the madness of Trump, but don't have the balls to be seen agreeing with 'libtards' (as they call them).

So I kind of think you are misunderstanding the general dynamic in this country. If you go on Youtube or any social media and search for a 'liberal' channel, I would bet that 9 times out of 10 their content is going to be something about the absolute ridiculousness that is the Trump administration. Look at the protests - look at Bernie's recent rallies - especially in the bigger cities like LA.

And if you listen to most of these channels, they are begging and pleading for kind of what you are asking for. That these toothless Democrats actually stand up and call out the absolute hypocrisy of Congress. A few have - like Cory Booker and some others. If I were a Democrat and in Congress, I'd literally be yelling and screaming. If they booted me out, I'd be picketing on the front steps. Put it this way, I'd be making a hell of a lot more noise than most establishment Democrats right now.

And you know why most of these Establishment Dems aren't doing more? Because they know they will be a shoe-in for mid-terms if they just ride things out. In other words this is why I hate 21st century politicians. They do everything in their own self-interest first, and everything else second. Politics is looked at as something that can be profited from, rather than serving the public. They don't want to put their careers on the line because Trump doing bad thing is actually good for their own, personal career.

I appreciate your good faith response, despite the allegation that i somehow misunderstand. You've contradicted yourself with your last paragraph. This "wait this out and laugh about it" clearly doesn't apply only to "establishment dems" - it applies to the voting public who will probably come out in sufficient numbers next election to oust Trump abd replace him with the next pro-corporate, business as usual democrat.

bernie sanders is a sheepdog who has already rolled over to the DNC and endorsed Clinton. It won't be him. It'll be someone who, like all of them, continues business as usual.

It is also positively NOT true that there are "wild differences" between the two parties. They are hand puppets on either hands of the corporate establishment.

This is what I'm talking about - both parties suck because they are fundamentally interested in maintaining the status quo and bipartisan tribalism is an important element of keeping the system going. Many people have a growing sense of this so they support the chaotic charlatan that is Trump- they'll support even a lecherous cretin like Trump just because he seems to be throwing a wrench in the gears of a system that's been ignoring the average American for decades.

"Own the libs" speaks to this, and you're right this sort of acidic cynicism is largely associated with the right, but it's enough of a problem on "the left' (to the extent there even IS a political left in America) to still be a concern. Some are carrying water for the democrats, some are sardonic critics who, like many Trump supporters, are deeply resentful at a fundamentally broken system and want to see the whole thing burn, or are caught up in moral superiority - it feels deeply validating to point out how it's the other side who is doing this.

America just needs real, viable political options. It's possible, they exist in democracies around the world.

 

[GrantB13]

Americans,

What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

How is any of this acceptable? The standard of expectation for your government has taken an absolute nosedive.

Any reasonable thinking people in even a barely functioning democracy would have ousted these absolute jackals many times over by now.

This is embarrassing.

Those of us who didn't vote for this circus can't do much but sit and wait for the storm to blow through.