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What if?What if we had video of Palestinians calling for murderous spree like that and taking pride in murder.
What if?What if we had video of Palestinians calling for murderous spree like that and taking pride in murder.
So then you admit that there aren't Palestinians that actually want peace that have any political power?
The vast majority of Palestinians are as peaceful as you and me and just want to live.
The West Bank is relatively peaceful, and would be more peaceful without Jewish extremism on their doorstep.
Israel really could benefit from defined boundaries, but we all know they don't want any.
hamas is weakened because israel weakened them. otherwise, they'd still have complete power in gaza.They haven't had any control over he situation at any point in their lives.
Unlike Israelis, who constantly vote in corrupt extremists.
Israel must realise it's own position, and a good place to start is binning off Netanyahu, a threat to world peace, and letting Palestine come to the table now that Hamas is weakened.
In the opinions of a land grabbing regime with the most globally condemned record of human rights abuse in modern history: yes even if David was reborn as a Palestinian he would be called a terrorist by default!I mean I asked you. Who should the Palestinians support besides Hamas?
Are you admitting that all Palestinians are terrorists here?
This isn't a statement based in reality.
The vast majority over 70% supported the October 7th attacks.
While I might agree the vast majority of the Palestinians don't want to become suicide bombers themselves, but they certainly support the sentiment and the violence against Israelis.
The hunger strike to death is a good idea and one that many of our genocide supporting Sherbros can get behind Palestinians introducingThey will tell you that Palestinians need to protest "non violently". Like isral has the "mowing the lawn" doctrine that states they must attack and kill as many Palestinians as possible every two years or so, and that's what they did : operation cast lead 2008-2009, operations returning echo and pillar of defense 2012, operation protective edge 2014, shooting and murder of peaceful protesters in the march of return 2018-2019. they killed thousands in all those years.
but if Palestinians dare to raise arms they're automatically systematically indubitably terrorists. They should do hunger strikes instead that would change everything for sure (sic)
So then you admit that there aren't Palestinians that actually want peace that have any political power?
The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.
Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad
Another source :Most of the time, Israeli policy was to treat the Palestinian Authority as a burden and Hamas as an asset. Far-right MK Bezalel Smotrich, now the finance minister in the hardline government and leader of the Religious Zionism party, said so himself in 2015.
According to various reports, Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2019, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.
While Netanyahu does not make these kind of statements publicly or officially, his words are in line with the policy that he implemented.
Hamas, in that sense, has been a convenient presence for Israel, whose leaders have favored the militant group over the Palestinian Authority, or PA, the pseudo-government established during the Oslo peace process to administer the Palestinian territories until the details of a sovereign Palestinian state could be negotiated. While Hamas has been enemy No. 1 in Israeli rhetoric for years, offering a cover for Israel to maintain its blockade and periodically kill hundreds of Palestinian civilians in Gaza, it has also offered Israel an alibi to avoid abiding by its supposed commitment to Palestinian statehood.
Israeli leaders seemed to believe this strategic calculation could hold indefinitely.
“They have determined that this situation of constant political instability and violence is preferable over making some kind of larger political agreement that would actually lead to a final status outcome to bring peace between Israelis and Palestinians,” Palestinian political analyst Yousef Munayyer told The Intercept’s Deconstructed podcast this week. “And they’ve chosen this path over that, and I think we are seeing the results of that on full display in recent days.”
Indeed, some Israeli officials have at times been explicit about their preference for Hamas over the PA. Israel’s Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, one of the most extremist members of the most extremist Israeli government coalition to date, offered an unusually frank assessment of the government’s approach to Hamas in a 2015 interview.
“The Palestinian Authority is a burden, and Hamas is an asset,” Smotrich said at the time. “It’s a terrorist organization, no one will recognize it, no one will give it status at the [International Criminal Court], no one will let it put forth a resolution at the U.N. Security Council.”
The comments came as the PA, whose authority was effectively limited to the West Bank after a 2007 split with Hamas, was making strides on the international scene, winning U.N. recognition of Palestine and an ICC probe of Israeli crimes in Palestine. Israeli officials dubbed those efforts “diplomatic terrorism,” a more difficult sell to the rest of the world than the terrorism label they apply to Hamas.
You judge 'reality' but one supposed stat you read somewhere? Lmao
In the opinions of a land grabbing regime with the most globally condemned record of human rights abuse in modern history: yes even if David was reborn as a Palestinian he would be called a terrorist by default!
Any other dumb questions you have? Maybe you should go to Ukraine and tell them hey guys let’s stop fighting and supporting Zelenskyy. That corrupt bastard doesn’t deserve our support. Fuck it if we are in the middle of a war or invasion let’s vote and settle on a new leader asap, sovereignty, self defence and patriotism can wait.
you honestly believe israel has worse human rights than syria. or iran. or sudan.......In the opinions of a land grabbing regime with the most globally condemned record of human rights abuse in modern history: yes even if David was reborn as a Palestinian he would be called a terrorist by default!
Any other dumb questions you have? Maybe you should go to Ukraine and tell them hey guys let’s stop fighting and supporting Zelenskyy. That corrupt bastard doesn’t deserve our support. Fuck it if we are in the middle of a war or invasion let’s vote and settle on a new leader asap, sovereignty, self defence and patriotism can wait.
So then you admit that Netanyahu favored hamas for years and did everything to undermine the Palestinian Authority, because the more non violent they became, the more credible they were for the international community and the more pressure he would receive for implementing a two state solution.
But the two state solution was never the goal of israel, they want all of the land like their prophecies say. Want a proof ? Here, hope "the times of israel" isn't another antisémite hamas supporter to you :
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For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces
The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal fromwww.timesofisrael.com
Another source :
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Before They Vowed to Annihilate Hamas, Israeli Officials Considered It an Asset
Hamas has long offered Israel an alibi to avoid abiding by its supposed commitment to Palestinian statehood.theintercept.com
Clearly israel and Netanyahou never wanted a two state solution, they want a jewish ethnostate from the river to the sea, they say it themselves. Another accusation against palestinians that have been and is indeed done by israel
It's because Israeli terrorists are forcing them out of their homes/land and killing them if they resist.funny you're silent on atrocities around the entire region. other than to condemn the west.
both gaza and the west bank have had a continually growing palestinian population of course.
and yes, eliminating hamas isn't as easy as just asking them nicely. or negotiating. of course, as a peaceful person you'd love to have a murderous terrorist living next door to you. you'd probably excuse them and assume it's because they had a hard upbringing.
This is the sort of mental gymnastics one has to do when supporting a nation with the worst record on the world as voted on by the world (at UN and intentional court of justice).So you don't know of any moderate Palestinians I guess?
The you would be outraged. Until then I've posted videos of israeli children being taught genocide in religious school in israel, haven't seen you flinch. I've just posted a video you responded to of israeli female soldier boasting about killing palestinians and wanting to kill more because they feel a thrill of joy when they do. You don't flinch.What if?
This is the sort of mental gymnastics one has to do when supporting a nation with the worst record on the world as voted on by the world (at UN and intentional court of justice).
Any information that contradicts what we know from current and historic polling data in the region?
You have been over this many times.you honestly believe israel has worse human rights than syria. or iran. or sudan.......
you'll never answer this with intellectual honesty. you'll just repeat the above.
Opinion of a poster on a karate forum < World wide nations consistent opinion on Israelhamassupporter.exe; repeat
i linked you to multiple unbiased sources that ranked israel middle of the pack globally. you dismissed it because it's not your narrative.You have been over this many times.
Your opinion and my opinion is an opinion but to be honest and comprehensive you need to shed your bias aside and look at the facts: Israel is repeatedly condemned by the entire world more than any other global citizen! Not just you or me, but the world as whole votes on those resolutions.
UN resolutions and war crime counts > my or your potentially biased personal opinions.