International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. V

[Rational Poster]

Fairly sure it might be difficult to poll Gazans right now...

See what I said when you don't exist in reality?

We have recent polling from both Gaza and the West Bank, but because it paints a picture that contradicts the narrative you've married yourself to, we should just discard it.

 

[Rational Poster]

Opinion of a poster on a karate forum < World wide nations consistent opinion on Israel

Honestly dude, you're kind of a joke. I could argue your position better than you.

 

[HereticBD]

The you would be outraged.

Literally Palestinian Americans on the street saying "Hitler knew how to deal with these people", and "Gas the Jews".

There are plenty of videos out there of Palestinians saying fucked up shit about the Jews. Not only do you not flinch, you hilariously allude to them not existing, LOL.

Anyways, how's the Hamas war effort going these days? Happy face or sad face?

 

[Koya]

Israel always wanted a two state solution until the second intifada. The recent decades of terror attacks has garnered a lot of support for the Israeli right wing.

1- Wait but what do you ignore everything in the post you replied to ? It's not a manipulative technique isn't it ? Surely such a stand up guy like you is above that (sic)

Answer the damn post instead of your usual gaslighting:

- There is proof that the Palestinian Authority became more moderate after the second intifada and that the international community deemed them credible actors to negotiate a two state solution because of that.

- There is proof that is relayed by israeli press and journalists themselves that netanyahu administration propped up hamas in an effort to undermine the PA because they knew that hamas were extremists that won't negotiate and will never be accepted by the international community

So who is to blame no ? You yourself basically admit that israel does not want a two state solution since 2005. They're entirely responsible for the current situation and it has blown up upon everyone's face.


2- Decades of terror for who ? You jokester. Israel kills tenfold times more palestinians than the contrary.

Is it Palestinian settlers who come in Tel Aviv and regularly take old ladies homes with the support of their army (that they don't even have lol) ? Or is it israeli settlers with the support of IDF ? 700,000 illegal settlers in the west bank. Who terrorizes who ?

Oh and heah the second intifada where kids where throwing rocks at tanks, I mean those tank drivers must have been terrorized.

Again decades of terror for who jokester

 

[mjfan23]

i linked you to multiple unbiased sources that ranked israel middle of the pack globally. you dismissed it because it's not your narrative.

yet you'll continue to act as if i'm just basing it on my personal opinion.

and again, it's completely intellectually dishonest. you know there's no comparison but you'll hide behind the UN anyway. because that's the narrative you want to push.

and if you're actually being honest, that just makes you a fool.

Hide behind the world’s governing body and intentional court of justice? That took into consideration war crimes, humans right suppression, violations of international laws and treaties.

I think hiding would be what you are doing by looking at quality of life indexes and other human rights opinions pieces that fall far lower on human survival Hierarchy of needs. The world read those reports and did their own fact checks too and pretty much unanimously voted Israel as being the guilty.

Fact remains: most condemned nation world wide in human rights, war crimes and international law and agreements infringed by a large margin! A margin so large the rest of world including any nation you can nominate would combined have less globally accepted offences then Israel.

 

[mjfan23]

Honestly dude, you're kind of a joke. I could argue your position better than you.

I don’t need you to argue my stance. The world is already pretty unanimously saying Israel is wrong here

 

[Rational Poster]

1- Wait but what do you ignore everything in the post you replied to ? It's not a manipulative technique isn't it ? Surely such a stand up guy like you is above that (sic)

Answer the damn post instead of your usual gaslighting:

- There is proof that the Palestinian Authority became more moderate after the second intifada and that the international community deemed them credible actors to negotiate a two state solution because of that.

- There is proof that is relayed by israeli press and journalists themselves that netanyahu administration propped up hamas in an effort to undermine the PA because they knew that hamas were extremists that won't negotiate and will never be accepted by the international community

So who is to blame no ? You yourself basically admit that israel does not want a two state solution since 2005. They're entirely responsible for the current situation and it has blown up upon everyone's face.


2- Decades of terror for who ? You jokester. Israel kills tenfold times more palestinians than the contrary.

Is it Palestinian settlers who come in Tel Aviv and regularly take old ladies homes with the support of their army (that they don't even have lol) ? Or is it israeli settlers with the support of IDF ? 700,000 illegal settlers in the west bank. Who terrorizes who ?

Oh and heah the second intifada where kids where throwing rocks at tanks, I mean those tank drivers must have been terrorized.

Again decades of terror for who jokester

There's also proof that the PA is more unpopular than ever for trying to adopt a more moderate approach. There is currently more support for Hamas than Fatah in the West Bank and currently Abbas is more unpopular then even Netanyahu and Biden. And he is unpopular for... trying to work with Israelis.

Terror is a specific method of warfare that the Palestinian extremist use. Israeli reprisals are not the same thing.

 

[Koya]

Literally Palestinian Americans on the street saying "Hitler knew how to deal with these people", and "Gas the Jews".

There are plenty of videos out there of Palestinians saying fucked up shit about the Jews. Not only do you not flinch, you hilariously allude to them not existing, LOL.

Anyways, how's the Hamas war effort going these days? Happy face or sad face?

Contrarily to you, if such people do exist I disassociate myself immediately and clearly for them and condemn those hate speech without any ambiguity. It's despicable. I do not want people to call for the massacre of jews.

Again contrary to you who called for the massacre of Palestinians and felt so edgy and cool when he did that wooo

Now if you're not intelligent enough to see that protesters in New-York and israeli youth and IDF soldecrs absolutely do not have the same impact on the loss of life it's just your intellectual limitations added up to your bias.

Protesters in New-York open their mouth and then go to sleep in their tiny flat, IDF soldiers who call for the extermination of palestinians on video do just that, they exterminate Palestinians. Like the 4 civilian young men killed in al faraa refugee camp in the west bank this morning by IDF

 

[Koya]

I don’t need you to argue my stance. The world is already pretty unanimously saying Israel is wrong here

Again bro, you're talking with a guy that called for the displacement of the whole population of the Gaza strip, but now that I call him out on this he ignores it like the plague

 

[Rational Poster]

I don’t need you to argue my stance. The world is already pretty unanimously saying Israel is wrong here

I don't think you could if I cared to listen.

 

[Rational Poster]

Again bro, you're talking with a guy that called for the displacement of the whole population of the Gaza strip, but now that I call him out on this he ignores it like the plague

I don't avoid it like the plague, I specifically refuse to engage with your antagonizing approach because you still haven't responded to the questions I've raised to you directly including the one on the last page.

 

[mjfan23]

Again bro, you're talking with a guy that called for the displacement of the whole population of the Gaza strip, but now that I call him out on this he ignores it like the plague

I don’t blame him. Israel has an undefendable track record. More resolutions against it than the entire world combined SMH

Supporting genocide and a state like that ain’t easy. He’s gotta think of creative ways to misdirect conversations and discussions away from the obvious facts and core matters.

 

[HereticBD]

Contrarily to you, if such people do exist I disassociate myself immediately and clearly for them and condemn those hate speech without any ambiguity. It's despicable. I do not want people to call for the massacre of jews.

You can't even admit they exist, LOL

Again contrary to you who called for the massacre of Palestinians and felt so edgy and cool when he did that wooo

By all means, back that bullshit up. Spoiler: You can't.

Now if you're not intelligent enough to see that protesters in New-York and israeli youth and IDF soldecrs absolutely do not have the same impact on the loss of life it's just your intellectual limitations added up to your bias.

It's cute that you think it's only Palestinian Americans doing it.

Hamas Terrorist: "I killed ten Jews with my bare hands. Be proud of me father!"

Anyways, you didn't answer the question. How's the Hamas war effort going? Thumbs up or thumbs down?

 

[Koya]

There's also proof that the PA is more unpopular than ever for trying to adopt a more moderate approach. There is currently more support for Hamas than Fatah in the West Bank and currently Abbas is more unpopular then even Netanyahu and Biden. And he is unpopular for... trying to work with Israelis.

Terror is a specific method of warfare that the Palestinian extremist use. Israeli reprisals are not the same thing.

No it's not exact. He's unpopular for trying to work with Israelis when at the same time Israel:
- enables illegal settlement in the west bank to the point 700,000 illegal extremist settlers are here
- support expropriation of homes, ethnic cleansing of whole villages of hundreds of people by those settlers

- sends the IDF to support those settlers, routinely does terror operation in refugee camp and kill young men like in Al Faraa this morning, desecrate mosques in the west bank like two days ago in Jenin and so on

- On a side note, absolutely slaughter Palestinian civilians in Gaza, targets hospitals like they did today in Khan Yunis, targets ambulances, displace two millions of people and destroys their homes for good, makes thousands of children cripples for life and so on

Yeah you forgot those tiny little details, surely Palestinians are the only people in the world who would considered their representative working hand in hand with such a terrific partner treason. All the other countries in the world would welcome it and call him and honorable man and a savior

 

[kflo]

Hide behind the world’s governing body and intentional court of justice? That took into consideration war crimes, humans right suppression, violations of international laws and treaties.

I think hiding would be what you are doing by looking at quality of life indexes and other human rights opinions pieces that fall far lower on human survival Hierarchy of needs. The world read those reports and did their own fact checks too and pretty much unanimously voted Israel as being the guilty.

Fact remains: most condemned nation world wide in human rights, war crimes and international law and agreements infringed by a large margin! A margin so large the rest of world including any nation you can nominate would combined have less globally accepted offences then Israel.

smh. i guess fool it is.

 

[Koya]

You can't even admit they exist, LOL


By all means, back that bullshit up. Spoiler: You can't.

It's cute that you think it's only Palestinian Americans doing it.

Hamas Terrorist: "I killed ten Jews with my bare hands. Be proud of me father!"

Anyways, you didn't answer the question. How's the Hamas war effort going? Thumbs up or thumbs down?

do you have any sources about anything you say ? because I try to back up my posts with articles, videos and references. Can your Cheeto fingers do the same or are you afraid of burning too many calories ?

 

[mjfan23]

smh. i guess fool it is.

Yup the person that wants to turn a blind eye to universally accepted and documented greatest human rights abuser in the world can be labelled a fool among other things.

Honest question: why don’t you ever own up to their right abuses, war crimes and international law violations that the world has over and over called them out on and passed resolutions documenting their offences on? Has your morality or conscience never said maybe I should actually speak out on an atrocity or two? Are you deep in your bias that you can’t even acknowledge facts the world has spelled out for you?

 

[kflo]

Yup the person that wants to turn a blind eye to universally accepted and documented greatest human rights abuser in the world can be labelled a fool among other things.

again, keep pretending israel is worse than syria for human rights.

 

[Rational Poster]

No it's not exact. He's unpopular for trying to work with Israelis when at the same time Israel:
- enables illegal settlement in the west bank to the point 700,000 illegal extremist settlers are here
- support expropriation of homes, ethnic cleansing of whole villages of hundreds of people by those settlers

- sends the IDF to support those settlers, routinely does terror operation in refugee camp and kill young men like in Al Faraa this morning, desecrate mosques in the west bank like two days ago in Jenin and so on

- On a side note, absolutely slaughter Palestinian civilians in Gaza, targets hospitals like they did today in Khan Yunis, targets ambulances, displace two millions of people and destroys their homes for good, makes thousands of children cripples for life and so on

Yeah you forgot those tiny little details, surely Palestinians are the only people in the world who would considered their representative working hand in hand with such a terrific partner treason. All the other countries in the world would welcome it and call him and honorable man and a savior

One of these days there's going to have to work with the Israelis if they actually want peace.

Do you think they actually want peace?

 

[mjfan23]

again, keep pretending israel is worse than syria for human rights.

Honest question: why don’t you ever own up to their right abuses, war crimes and international law violations that the world has over and over called them out on and passed resolutions documenting their offences on? Has your morality or conscience never said maybe I should actually speak out on an atrocity or two? Are you so deep in your bias that you can’t even acknowledge facts the world has spelled out for you?