International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

Does Mandy Patinkin have a valid point?


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It's certainly possible some Hamas fighters took things into their own hands or some faction like PIJ decided to do something.


Hopefully it doesn't escalate and a coalition peacekeeping task force can be brought in to cool things down.
 
Sigh, and here we go again.

I thought this would happen. What are Hamas gonna do, get jobs? Their entire purpose for existing is to kill the Jews, they don't have any other purpose in their own minds. They can't just get a different life or job.
 

Egypt expected to lead global stabilisation force in Gaza, say diplomats​

Decommissioning Hamas weapons seen as major stumbling block, with British diplomats advising on process

European and US-backed UN security council motion to give a planned international stabilisation force robust powers to control security inside Gaza is being prepared, with the strong expectation that Egypt will lead it, diplomats have said.

The US is pressing for the force to have a UN mandate without being a fully fledged UN peacekeeping force and will operate with the kind of powers given to international troops operating in Haiti to combat armed gangs.

Turkey, Indonesia and Azerbaijan are also being billed alongside Egypt as the main troop contributors. Egypt is still being consulted on whether the force should be a full UN-led operation.

It is not expected that European or British troops will be involved, but Britain has sent advisers to a small cell being operated by the US inside Israel that is working on implementing the second phase of the 20-point plan developed by Donald Trump, the US president.

The UK is stressing that the ultimate aim is a Palestinian state , which must be seen eventually as a single entity including the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

The UK has already been training a Palestinian police force contingent but the international force will be given lead responsibility under the proposal.

If the force proves effective, Israel will withdraw further. Israel has however been insisting it will retain a large Israeli controlled buffer zone to protect itself from fresh Hamas attacks.

British diplomats admit that the issue of decommissioning Hamas weapons will be the most difficult and it is contributing ideas from the process in Northern Ireland, where IRA and Protestant-controlled weapons were put beyond use including through an independent verification body.
The anti semites in this thread told me this was Israel’s mess to fix on their own. It was entirely on them, no one else can or should help.

The reality is none of them give a fuck about the Palestinian people.
 
Hasn’t Israel already killed a few dozen people since the ceasefire took effect? How do you still believe them at this point?
Both sides are bitter enemies and don’t trust each other at all. Unless some buffer is created and someone else comes in to keep peace, they’re going to keep killing each other when there’s an opportunity. Any ceasefire deal is going to have to weather some spats of violence.

Who are we kidding though they’re just going to start fighting again soon.
 
Hasn’t Israel already killed a few dozen people since the ceasefire took effect? How do you still believe them at this point?
That’s cool bro keep supporting undemocratic oppressive terrorist gangs …
 
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