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Where does the 200K figure come from?
Scientists have estimated that the total deaths from Israel's war on Gaza could ultimately be as high as 186,000. The figure is almost four times higher than the 46,700 deaths that Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry have reported.


The other alternative is that you believe that since July 2024 it is still blocked at 55k and no one died since.
 
These people think starving children is funny. Fucking scumbag lowlifes, just like all the psychotic Israeli's that say shit like this:



Is normal bro. Totally not a society of genocidal maniacs. It's anti Semitic to post the horrors they say with their own mouth. And blood libel. And hatred of Jews. And and and
 

Israeli use of human shields in Gaza was systemic, soldiers and former detainees tell the AP

TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — The only times the Palestinian man wasn’t bound or blindfolded, he said, was when he was used by Israeli soldiers as their human shield.

Dressed in army fatigues with a camera fixed to his forehead, Ayman Abu Hamadan was forced into houses in the Gaza Strip to make sure they were clear of bombs and gunmen, he said. When one unit finished with him, he was passed to the next.

“They beat me and told me: ‘You have no other option; do this or we’ll kill you,’” the 36-year-old told The Associated Press, describing the 2 1/2 weeks he was held last summer by the Israeli military in northern Gaza.

Orders often came from the top, and at times nearly every platoon used a Palestinian to clear locations, said an Israeli officer, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal.

Several Palestinians and soldiers told the AP that Israeli troops are systematically forcing Palestinians to act as human shields in Gaza, sending them into buildings and tunnels to check for explosives or militants. The dangerous practice has become ubiquitous during 19 months of war, they said.

Read more : https://apnews.com/article/israel-p...uman-shields-80f358dd2c87a1123f26ffada159701c
 



In no way can you support israels right to exist. Imagine if your country needed an iron dome to down constant rockets from neighbouring countries? I think you'd have a very different mindset if you were in such a position.
 
In no way can you support israels right to exist. Imagine if your country needed an iron dome to down constant rockets from neighbouring countries? I think you'd have a very different mindset if you were in such a position.

Sure I agree but also it'd hard to deny AIPAC owns America. Lobby $ proves it.
 
Scientists have estimated that the total deaths from Israel's war on Gaza could ultimately be as high as 186,000. The figure is almost four times higher than the 46,700 deaths that Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry have reported.


The other alternative is that you believe that since July 2024 it is still blocked at 55k and no one died since.
Estimates of possible future deaths decades from now are far different than your quote- "200k people have been killed"

There are places in Africa and the Middle East where more than double that number already HAVE been killed.
 
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Estimates of possible future deaths decades from now are far different than your quote- "200k people have been killed"

There are places in Africa and the Middle East where more than double that number already HAVE been killed.

Yeah so since July 2024 it has been blocked at 55k. You're right.

1- Where are those places where the double have been killed since October 2023 ? Can you list then ?

2- Are journalists forbidden from these places too ?

3 If the same amount of israelis would had been killed would you try to play it off like nothing like your doing here ?
 
"53% of israelis oppose letting humanitarian aid through"

 
Yeah so since July 2024 it has been blocked at 55k. You're right.

1- Where are those places where the double have been killed since October 2023 ? Can you list then ?

2- Are journalists forbidden from these places too ?

3 If the same amount of israelis would had been killed would you try to play it off like nothing like your doing here ?
I'm right about what? You said "You're right" regarding something I never said. Is that an auto-reaction? Who is playing it off like it is nothing?

I made two points, and you didn't address either, you went off on a strawman.

1) You made the claim that 200K were dead, and your evidence was that some have speculated that many could die in coming decades, therefore your claim is false.

2) No one including you has been screaming from the rooftops when millions in Africa were being killed (as in right now, some places this has lasted since the 90s and is still going on). Now there are far less being killed in a certain place, and it is a situation to scream about. Seems disproportionate. Maybe black lives don't matter after all?

3) Right there in the Middle East, far worse things are happening. Ten times as many people have died in both Syria and Yemen, yet no one even mentions those atrocities or injustices. Time to stop the obsession and look around.

It's not that what's happening in Gaza should be minimized- but it should be taken in context. What is trending the most on Tik Tok may be the fashionable crisis to scream about, but it isn't the most important. Why is it that no one cares about the other Middle Eastern people?
 
LOL @ Nobody talking about Syria and Yemen. WTF?

The lengths people go to excuse Israel's war crimes against the civilian population is pretty pathetic.

"It's not that what's happening in Gaza should be minimized- but"

but you're going to do it anyways....
 
They're saying it out loud


It just blows me away that we still got straight up clowns in this thread saying things like "release the hostages and it's over!" and "this is NOT a genocide!" when Israel is saying exactly what this is right to their stupid fucking faces and they still deny it.

There is no ambiguity here. Israel is leveling Gaza, slaughtering and evicting it's population, and taking it for themselves. They are telling us this is what they are doing.
 
It just blows me away that we still got straight up clowns in this thread saying things like "release the hostages and it's over!" and "this is NOT a genocide!" when Israel is saying exactly what this is right to their stupid fucking faces and they still deny it.

There is no ambiguity here. Israel is leveling Gaza, slaughtering and evicting it's population, and taking it for themselves. They are telling us this is what they are doing.

They just do PR for the forum. They absolutely agree with Smotrich here or with expulsing one million Gazan to lybia. Pretty clear from their maer.
 
It just blows me away that we still got straight up clowns in this thread saying things like "release the hostages and it's over!" and "this is NOT a genocide!" when Israel is saying exactly what this is right to their stupid fucking faces and they still deny it.

There is no ambiguity here. Israel is leveling Gaza, slaughtering and evicting it's population, and taking it for themselves. They are telling us this is what they are doing.

The year is 2025.

People can outright say that they're going to achieve the most evil aims and ambitions and pathetic lickspittle bitches will still argue and tell you they wouldn't dream of it.
 
Even the former PM of Israel is calling this for what it is...



 
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