International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

Does Mandy Patinkin have a valid point?

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Blayt7hh said:
lol there were videos of it that were posted on this very forum in the first version of this thread. No one is arguing that it didn’t happen except for you. If you’re genuinely interested, then go look for it on telegram or whatever. I doubt it’s hard to find.

Your logic for making every Israeli a legitimate target can be used against Palestinians in Gaza. It’s not a good game to play. Your thought process means that one side is ultimately going to have to wipe out the other. I hope it doesn’t come to that. You should hope so to because it’s not going to go in favor of the side you support.
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Strawman alert.
 
DoubleTrouble said:
You argued a point that I didn't make...that' a strawman.

When did I say that nobody in Israel is innocent?
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Every citizen in Israel (with few exemptions) serves in the IDF which is a terrorist entity (formed from the proscribed terrorist groups Ergun, Lehi and Haganah) and they've contributed to the oppression and illegal occupation of Palestinians therefore making them combatants, not civilians.
 
kflo said:
Every citizen in Israel (with few exemptions) serves in the IDF which is a terrorist entity (formed from the proscribed terrorist groups Ergun, Lehi and Haganah) and they've contributed to the oppression and illegal occupation of Palestinians therefore making them combatants, not civilians.
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Do children serve in the IDF then?
 
DoubleTrouble said:
There is no evidence that's why lol
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Dude... hamas literally just returned the bodies of 2 children....

No evidence? Are you completely special? Or just in a such a incredible echo chamber that common sense doesnt penetrate?

Mila cohen. 9 months
Omer Kedem Siman Yov ( 2 yrars old )
Hissisters, five-year-old twins Shahar and Arbel,
Ariel and Kfir Bibas, four years and nine months old.
Liel and Yanai Hetzroni, 12
Noya Dan. 13
Aline Kafshiter and her five-year-old brother, Eitan

Your claim was hamas killed no innocents... wheres your evidence ,? Because i have plenty.. you have your hands blocking your eyes and ears and claim its proof theres no evidence.......

Hamas killed innocents... why in the hell have i wasted this much time on this
 
Anewt said:
Dude... hamas literally just returned the bodies of 2 children....

No evidence? Are you completely special? Or just in a such a incredible echo chamber that common sense doesnt penetrate?

Mila cohen. 9 months
Omer Kedem Siman Yov ( 2 yrars old )
Hissisters, five-year-old twins Shahar and Arbel,
Ariel and Kfir Bibas, four years and nine months old.
Liel and Yanai Hetzroni, 12
Noya Dan. 13
Aline Kafshiter and her five-year-old brother, Eitan

Your claim was hamas killed no innocents... wheres your evidence ,? Because i have plenty.. you have your hands blocking your eyes and ears and claim its proof theres no evidence.......

Hamas killed innocents... why in the hell have i wasted this much time on this
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The Bibas boys were killed by IDF bombs as confirmed by Yarden Bibas.

All those names you listed are fine, now show the evidence that they were killed by Hamas on Oct 7th please.
 
DoubleTrouble said:
The Bibas boys were killed by IDF bombs as confirmed by Yarden Bibas.

All those names you listed are fine, now show the evidence that they were killed by Hamas on Oct 7th please.
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Show your evidence yarden bibas said that . Bevause he didnt and your echo chambered has you ensnared...

You make a lot of claims and demands yet t never ever provide evidence. Just constant dismissal.

The names are fine? What the fuck are you talkimg about?
 
avenue94 said:
Hamas is employing the same tactics and strategy it has in recent conflcts, they simply executed better and Israel executed worse on 10/7.
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The fact you think that is a reasonable thing to say shows what a morally bankrupt individual you are.

I guess in kind people could say Israel have executed far, far, far better since then...
 
SuperAlly said:
The fact you think that is a reasonable thing to say shows what a morally bankrupt individual you are.

I guess in kind people could say Israel have executed far, far, far better since then...
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What part of my observation was morally bankrupt?

And yes, Israel has executed its heavy-handed, brute force approach better than at least since the 80s, when it sanctioned outright genocide in Lebanon.
 
Best re-sticky this, Netanyahu has got his way at long last and bombing has resumed.
 
avenue94 said:
What part of my observation was morally bankrupt?

And yes, Israel has executed its heavy-handed, brute force approach better than at least since the 80s, when it sanctioned outright genocide in Lebanon.
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Who perpetrated the actual 24 hour genocide?
 
kflo said:
Who perpetrated the actual 24 hour genocide?
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Christian militias, supported by the IDF, which knew in advance and at the time of the killings.

Israel is a signatory to the Genocide Convention, they were obligated to stop the killings.
 
DoubleTrouble said:
Every citizen in Israel (with few exemptions) serves in the IDF which is a terrorist entity (formed from the proscribed terrorist groups Ergun, Lehi and Haganah) and they've contributed to the oppression and illegal occupation of Palestinians therefore making them combatants, not civilians.
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DoubleTrouble said:
You argued a point that I didn't make...that' a strawman.

When did I say that nobody in Israel is innocent?
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You fucking kidding right now?
 
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