International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

Does Mandy Patinkin have a valid point?

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kflo said:
lol.

It’s really hard to make an argument against fools who blame Israel for the actions of terrorists. You are not critical of Hamas if you literally blame Israel for their actions.

Hamas are the elected governing body neighboring Israel. The idea that Israel is at fault for limiting their autonomy is ludicrous. And the WB is so ethnically cleansed that the arab population there keeps increasing.
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Honestly its embarrassing how detached from reality you are, can you seriously look at the West Bank and the growth of illegal settlements and say thats not ethnic cleansing? kids growing up in refugee camps doesn't gainsay that.

Israeli is at fault for ruthlessly oppressing the Palestinian population for many decades as well as clearly not being willing to engage in any peace process in good faith which has resulted in the rise of Hamas, which lets not forget they didnt actually seem to mind in the past when it allowed them to divide Palestinian power and provide an excuse for not engauging with the peace process honestly.

You follow the standard Israeli practice of asking people to condemn Hamas for the 400th time yet you yourself seem totally unwilling to condemn Israeli actions, you've posted here for over a year happily along side some open racists in favour of it.
 
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moreorless87 said:
Honestly its embarrassing how detached from reality you are, can you seriously look at the West Bank and the growth of illegal settlements and say thats not ethnic cleansing? kids growing up in refugee camps doesn't gainsay that.

Israeli is at fault for ruthlessly oppressing the Palestinian population for many decades as well as clearly not being willing to engage in any peace process in good faith which has resulted in the rise of Hamas, which lets not forget they didnt actually seem to mind in the past when it allowed them to divide Palestinian power and provide an excuse for not engauging with the peace process honestly.

You follow the standard Israeli practice of asking people to condemn Hamas for the 400th time yet you yourself seem totally unwilling to condemn Israeli actions, you've posted here for other a year happly along side some open racists in favour of it.
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lol at you casting stones while posting this.

and tell me who the "open racists" are........why don't you look on this very page.......
 
DoubleTrouble said:
Every citizen in Israel (with few exemptions) serves in the IDF which is a terrorist entity (formed from the proscribed terrorist groups Ergun, Lehi and Haganah) and they've contributed to the oppression and illegal occupation of Palestinians therefore making them combatants, not civilians.
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If you view children as not innocents due to the actions they may make in the future.... you do you.
 
avenue94 said:
This not true. Proportionality is very important in these discussions and laws.
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Proportionality’ demands that when estimating the civilian deaths or injuries from an attack on a legitimate military target, the harm caused cannot be excessive (disproportionate) to the concrete and direct anticipated military advantage to be obtained by the attack.
 
Brendon Katz said:
Proportionality’ demands that when estimating the civilian deaths or injuries from an attack on a legitimate military target, the harm caused cannot be excessive (disproportionate) to the concrete and direct anticipated military advantage to be obtained by the attack.
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Good job for chat gpting or stating the obvious? Not sure what you want me tot do with this post. Israel routinely ignores proportionality.
 
DoubleTrouble said:
As I asked before....which children were killed? Show evidence.
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Look it up. I cant be bothered.

Seeing that you dont consider any israeli to be a legitimate innocent. I honestly dont see a point in it
 
If it’s obvious, why did you say my original post isn’t true?

Proportionality is a principle applied to strikes which result in civilian deaths.

That’s also obvious. I’m pointing out obvious things to you because you’re obviously an idiot.

Don’t bother responding. I’m done.
 
DoubleTrouble said:
As I asked before....which children were killed? Show evidence.
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lol there were videos of it that were posted on this very forum in the first version of this thread. No one is arguing that it didn’t happen except for you. If you’re genuinely interested, then go look for it on telegram or whatever. I doubt it’s hard to find.

Your logic for making every Israeli a legitimate target can be used against Palestinians in Gaza. It’s not a good game to play. Your thought process means that one side is ultimately going to have to wipe out the other. I hope it doesn’t come to that. You should hope so to because it’s not going to go in favor of the side you support.
 
DoubleTrouble said:
There's never been a genocide in your history. Just making up words to justify criminality.
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Misappropriation of the genocide term has been the go to of the Hamas terrorist supporters in this thread

If you enter a country and intentionally kill, torture, kidnap or rape everyone you come into contact with that cannot be called anything other than genocide
 
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