International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

[Snubnoze707]

@Rholk as always, offers zero rebuttal just giggles.

Arguably the biggest bitch in this thread. At least these other guys participate regularly.

 

[SuperAlly]

Israel has already killed close to 100 Palestinians since the ceasefire.

Give it another few weeks and they'll probably get up to to Hamas Oct 7th numbers.

All while on a ceasefire.

You cease, we fire. The Israeli way.

They're still killing Lebanese people daily.

 

[Scerpi]

 

[Snubnoze707]

OK for Israeli Terrorists to kill kids by the tens of thousands.

NOT OK for Palestinian Terrorists to kill other Palestinian Terrorists.

Got it.

 

[DEVILsSON]

Pakistan: Military crackdown on pro-Palestine protesters leaves scores dead

A violent crackdown by Pakistan’s military on a mass pro-Palestine protest has left dozens dead and hundreds wounded, according to eyewitnesses and local sources. The massacre occurred near Lahore,…

www.middleeastmonitor.com

Any threads about it? Posts about it? QED.

Yet every day we had someone post something about a dozen people killed or injured in Gaza.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Pakistan: Military crackdown on pro-Palestine protesters leaves scores dead

A violent crackdown by Pakistan’s military on a mass pro-Palestine protest has left dozens dead and hundreds wounded, according to eyewitnesses and local sources. The massacre occurred near Lahore,…

www.middleeastmonitor.com

5 confirmed deaths. They better get their numbers up if they want that Israeli heat.

But yeah, fuck Pakistan for that.

 

[avenue94]

Ok, fair enough, see your perspective now.

“

Israel providing guns to Gaza gang to bolster opposition to Hamas”​

This is a good thing though. As someone needs to run Gaza who isn’t Hamas.

You can’t blame Israel for Palestinians looting aid for Palestinians. That’s still a Palestinian issue and not an Israeli one. Whether it’s Hamas or some other Palestinians, or as in the current case, both.

Otherwise the only logical conclusion is Palestinians cannot be trusted to govern themselves and someone else needs to do it for them, which will set the same jaws frothing.

The bolded part is what Israel used to say, except were saying that about the PLO/PA and backing Hamas back then.

Everyone back's proxies, the issue is that it tends to backfire catastrophically when you back factions just because they're hired guns, versus backing someone with a vested interest in moderation and governing properly longterm.

 

[DEVILsSON]

5 confirmed deaths. They better get their numbers up if they want that Israeli heat.

But yeah, fuck Pakistan for that.

Even going from the blurb and headline :

1. 'scores dead' = multiples of 20s dead people
2. 'dozens dead' = multiples of 12s dead people

Either of these means more than 5.

My point is I had to specifically mention it for you to even make a comment on it. Did you know about it? Probably not. But you're a decent person as are the vast majority of people here so of course you and I and everyone else will condemn it. But my overarching point is that when it doesn't involve Israel or Jews no one pays attention (to put it charitably) or just doesn't give a shit(to put it uncharitably).

I am sure you'll roll your eyes but you could make a case this is a symptom of widespread antisemitism.

Will the Saudis condemn it? Probably not. They just signed a mutual defense pact with Pakistan.

I just went to Al Jazeera main page. There's not one mention of it. There's a mention of clash with Afghanistan. There's mention of Israel delaying crossing. There are scores or dozens pro-Palestinian people dead in Pakistan and yet not one article? Is this not hypocrisy?

 

[Anewt]

Even going from the blurb and headline :

1. 'scores dead' = multiples of 20s dead people
2. 'dozens dead' = multiples of 12s dead people

Either of these means more than 5.

My point is I had to specifically mention it for you to even make a comment on it. Did you know about it? Probably not. But you're a decent person as are the vast majority of people here so of course you and I and everyone else will condemn it. But my overarching point is that when it doesn't involve Israel or Jews no one pays attention (to put it charitably) or just doesn't give a shit(to put it uncharitably).

I am sure you'll roll your eyes but you could make a case this is a symptom of widespread antisemitism.

Will the Saudis condemn it? Probably not. They just signed a mutual defense pact with Pakistan.

I just went to Al Jazeera main page. There's not one mention of it. There's a mention of clash with Afghanistan. There's mention of Israel delaying crossing. There are scores or dozens pro-Palestinian people dead in Pakistan and yet not one article? Is this not hypocrisy?

Zero mention of it in any western media as yet. Middle east monitor and al jazeera arent places i frequent or recieve updates from.

Despite widespread documentation of state violence, media coverage inside Pakistan remains tightly restricted. State-aligned channels have echoed the government narrative, portraying the protesters as armed aggressors. Independent journalism remains heavily censored under Pakistan’s de facto military rule, which continues to enjoy robust backing from Washington.


Its actually quite similar a situation in some ways

 

[Anewt]

Even going from the blurb and headline :

1. 'scores dead' = multiples of 20s dead people
2. 'dozens dead' = multiples of 12s dead people

Either of these means more than 5.

My point is I had to specifically mention it for you to even make a comment on it. Did you know about it? Probably not. But you're a decent person as are the vast majority of people here so of course you and I and everyone else will condemn it. But my overarching point is that when it doesn't involve Israel or Jews no one pays attention (to put it charitably) or just doesn't give a shit(to put it uncharitably).

I am sure you'll roll your eyes but you could make a case this is a symptom of widespread antisemitism.

Will the Saudis condemn it? Probably not. They just signed a mutual defense pact with Pakistan.

I just went to Al Jazeera main page. There's not one mention of it. There's a mention of clash with Afghanistan. There's mention of Israel delaying crossing. There are scores or dozens pro-Palestinian people dead in Pakistan and yet not one article? Is this not hypocrisy?

Its not on any western media yet... only dropsite news and the middle east monitor.

Definte casualties from what ive seen. But havent seen any of the actual action that caused said casualties.

I would say its not being condemned because nobody knows about it. Which would be due to the way pakistan controlls its media and is paying good money to the usa currently.

Because watch. People are going to use it to attack trump and the us's complicity with pakistan imo very shortly

Heres the most information ive found, accuracy i cant confirm. Careful on some links if squimish. I can verify they are of what they claim.. not close to the volume of claimed casaulties tho.

Well worth the read

Pakistani Security Forces Hunted and Killed Anti-Israel Protestors While Prime Minister Nominated Trump for Nobel Peace Prize

Protestors from the hardline military-linked religious party Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan were killed by Pakistani security forces during a rare demonstration.

www.dropsitenews.com

It could be similar to the " massacre " that occured last year.

November 2024 PTI protest - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In response to the clashes, on 27 November, a violent crackdown by Pakistani security forces, led by Naqvi, resulted in casualties. The government denied using live rounds, asserting that the situation was under control after clearing the protest .According to anonymous sources in local hospitals speaking to The Guardian, the families of the deceased speaking to Al Jazeera, government officials hadThe PTI described the incident as a "massacre," claiming that hundreds of its members were killed as police fired live ammunition during the final phase of the protest. Later, party sources stated that up to 20 of their workers had died.

 

[Rholk]

@Rholk as always, offers zero rebuttal just giggles.

Arguably the biggest bitch in this thread. At least these other guys participate regularly.

Jimmies russtled

Post something worthy of a rebuttal and i might respond.
But you guys just keep posting the most over the top propaganda.
It's hardly worth the effort of my giggles if i'm beeing honest.

 

[Snubnoze707]

My point is I had to specifically mention it for you to even make a comment on it. Did you know about it? Probably not. But you're a decent person as are the vast majority of people here so of course you and I and everyone else will condemn it. But my overarching point is that when it doesn't involve Israel or Jews no one pays attention (to put it charitably) or just doesn't give a shit(to put it uncharitably).

I'm sorry, I must have missed it. Were we suddenly in a thread about Pakistan? Or was this thread about the Israel/Gaza conflict?

This next level whataboutism tactic is beyond retarded. You have no arguments so there always has to be some underlining "antisemitism" bias at play.

Why are you constantly conflating the acts of Israel with the acts of Jews? Are you arguing that all Jews are in favor of what Israel and the regime of Netanyahu are doing?

 

[Snubnoze707]

Jimmies russtled

Post something worthy of a rebuttal and i might respond.
But you guys just keep posting the most over the top propaganda.
It's hardly worth the effort of my giggles if i'm beeing honest.

Distorted perception of self worth exposed

You aren't in any position to be flaunting this level of ego on the topic.

 

[DEVILsSON]

I'm sorry, I must have missed it. Were we suddenly in a thread about Pakistan? Or was this thread about the Israel/Gaza conflict?

This next level whataboutism tactic is beyond retarded. You have no arguments so there always has to be some underlining "antisemitism" bias at play.

Why are you constantly conflating the acts of Israel with the acts of Jews? Are you arguing that all Jews are in favor of what Israel and the regime of Netanyahu are doing?

Given they were protesting in support of the Palestinian people I thought it was related to this thread... Since so many people were killed by government forces I thought it was notable and should be discussed....were they also Israeli collaborators and should be murdered like the Gazans ones by Hamas? It seems like you are ok with Hamas settling their scores...killing is fine as long as it's done by Hamas or Muslims on Muslims...

The point is that there's this singular focus on Israel and crickets on everything else. Much larger countries, much larger death totals, etc and no one gives a single solitary fuck. You can say it's a whataboutism but it's also a completely valid question to ask... I mean dozens or scores of people were murdered by Pakistani government forces and not one mention on Al Jazeera's main page? How could this be?

While you're correct in that Israeli government actions and Jewish people are not the same, there's a major overlap in how many people view Israel, Jews and this conflict. Hell majority of people in this thread's poll think Jews anywhere in the world have something to ponder about even though they have fuck all to do with the war...you are in fact a 'yes' there as well...I know you will say I am twisting the guy's words but I am not...

There's a rising levels of antisemitism and I see that shit all over Facebook and social media...maybe I consume too much right wing media or some other forms of media which just so happens to also have that stuff but it's a bit disconcerting...

 

[Koya]

Yeah, meanwhile the IDF that intentionally shoots small children in the testicles are the most Moral Army of all Time.

Israel slaughters tens of thousands of kids while mocking them: MEH.

Militias kill other Militias: OMG!!!!!! BARBARIANS!!!!

Especially when this militia was propped up by Israel for that exact reason and we've been warning about it for a year

 

[Koya]

The last message of Saleh to his family. A true hero. That he is vilified by the inhumane monsters here only cements that further.

 

[Koya]

Israel has been forming and grouping together the Al Shabab gang since the invasion of Rafah in May 2024, to create unrest in the Gaza strip and have a proxy they can order

 

[SuperAlly]

 

[GearSolidMetal]

 

[DEVILsSON]

The last message of Saleh to his family. A true hero. That he is vilified by the inhumane monsters here only cements that further.

This is over the top retarded even by the very low expectations I have for you. This fucking guy is your idea of a god damned hero? What the fuck did he do to be called a hero? He has been probably the main propagandist for Hamas...

You may want to reevaluate people you idolize or admire.