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[savemgs]

I figured I’d throw my two cents in here. I don’t totally disagree with the original post, but I think they could’ve explained their point better. I’ve been a fan since the Shamrock-Ortiz feud back in the late 90s, and when it comes to fighters not trying to advance position or finish the fight, yeah, it’s a display of skill and technique, but it also looks like a way to do nothing.

In the early days, even in grappling-heavy organizations like Pancrase, fighters always tried to advance and finish the fight. If they stalled, they probably wouldn’t get asked back. PRIDE later had a great system with yellow cards for inactivity and taking a chunk of a fighter's pay, which really stopped the stalling and cheating.
But going too far the other way, like EliteXC did, would just be over the top.

 

[The Legendary Scarface]

Yeah it's not like merab landed any ground and pound right?

Very minimal. Sean hurt him with those teeps in the 5th more than anything.

 

[Hog-train]

c'mon now that's bullshit, if one guy gets completely neutralized, the person who neutralized them should be credited.

If a guy takes someone down and then just lays and prays, that should not be rewarded.

 

[The Legendary Scarface]

Grappling is fighting and you are a casual

Grappling is fighting. Laying on someone waiting for time to expire isn't fighting. Go watch Khamzat, DJ, Jones, etc if you want to see real grappling.

 

[Thatlookinhiseyes]

Blame Sean for spending more time painting his hair and nails than learning how to defend takedowns.

To be fair. Only
Jose Aldo has been able to stop merabs takedowns. Cejudo, a gold medal wrestler wasn’t able to. Yan, the apparent next coming of Christ, couldn’t stop it. So it’s not like Shaun’s in ability to stop the take Down is some big thing. Honestly it was Shaun’s inability to do anything once he got taken down that cost him the fight.

 

[Dana's Conscience]

I kind of agree. I like dominant wrestlers who advance and try to finish but leg humpers should get pay cuts.

Merab is just bad to watch. Shevs performance tonight was also boring as hell.

Not Merab. He was trying to inflict damage at every opportunity when he was in control. Shev on the other hand was boring.

 

[ExitLUPin]

There is a big difference between grapplers who fight to finish, throw mean GNP, hunt subs than fighters who use grappling to control, to maintain position and stall

Merab and Belal are the latter
Islam and Shavkat are the former

 

[RockyLockridge]

Grappling is fighting. Laying on someone waiting for time to expire isn't fighting. Go watch Khamzat, DJ, Jones, etc if you want to see real grappling.

You know I like all of those figthters.

But the reality is even in the stand up valentina both outlanded their opponent by more than times 2. The threat of the wrestling makes that possible. because it's an MMA fight. How people don't see that valentina was DESTROYING grasso on the feet she got completely exposed and outclassed. she had no idea what to do by round 3 on the feet she was walking in walking out trying to time Val and just getting popped. Valentina boiled her Striking down to the pure basics. No spinning back kicks and Head kicks. Alexa is opportunistic and that's how she won the first fight. She got robbed in the 2nd fight and this fight Val came out and showed her a whole different level to MMA.

You've got to remember, if you think the winners played it safe, the losers played it safer. They did not take any risks to get up off the ground because they know one bad move and they are subbed. You can't place the blame squarely on the winner at all it's the person getting grapple fucked for 3 straight rounds that needs to take the risk. Not the grappler. I get that it isn't fun to watch but if you know that's the game plan (and sean should know) you should be better prepared. you let them impose their will on you. that's losing the fight anyway you slice it. We just don't enjoy their "will" and I get it.

 

[Noraaq]

Merab sucks

 

[ayaandirtyboy]

Yeah it's not like merab landed any ground and pound right?

be honest did he even come close to a finish in that ground and pound? it was just for show. there was no weight or intent behind those punches.

 

[bambammccoy]

Some people called Khabib boring, those are the kinds of fans I find unbearable.

 

[KilledByDeath]

I think there are times that fighters play it safe, and it leads to boring fights.
Sometimes people like Silva have a Maia performance.
Every fight is different and has its own feel.

It would be great to live in a world where all the fighters were looking for a finish.

 

[The Legendary Scarface]

Yes, all Merab did was lay on O'Malley.

That's why he landed more strikes and also why the announcers and most of the posters here couldn't believe Herb was telling him to work, to the point where it actually seemed like he was trying to rig the fight.

What strikes?? Point them out. You don't think the biggest damage was done when Sean was landing those teeps in the 5th?

 

[Portland8242]

Based take, fucking boring grapplers and fuck the gay retards on here who defend boring shit.

I love high level grappling, but we should be allowed to criticise when it’s fucking boring.

Boring is boring but if you can't defend it then you ain't the best.

GSP had his skills honed enough to fend off Jon Fitch and put a beating on him.

 

[Portland8242]

Holding on to someone until time runs out isn't fighting. You're using that term too loosely.

Well technically - in an actual fight, there wouldn't be any time.

So in a real fight - Merab would just hold Sean down until he's gassed out, in which case he'd be a sitting duck on the floor whom Merab could do whatever he wanted to.

 

[The Legendary Scarface]

Well technically - in an actual fight, there wouldn't be any time.

So in a real fight - Merab would just hold Sean down until he's gassed out, in which case he'd be a sitting duck on the floor whom Merab could do whatever he wanted to.

In an actual fight, Sean could pull out a gay rainbow colored butterfly knife

 

[Hellowhosthat]

These type of guys are going to kill the sport and I bet they don’t even have a blue belt- yet pretend their fake interest in it makes them sophisticated and somehow more valuable as a fan.
No this is the avoidance of actual fighting.
As soon as Merab did actually engage in the 5th he was immediately hurt. I’m not sure how effective Merab would be if he had to fight in say…an open field

With no round timer for Sean to get up? He'd still be on his back now.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Anyway if people can't get up they should look to my boy Shara as to how to win rounds off your back with damage.

 

[FilipEmoFights]

With no round timer for Sean to get up? He'd still be on his back now.

If pigs had wings they could fly
If the ring girls were topless I’d be mad at the corner cams

 

[empsim]

There is a different between fighting and simply neutralizing your opponent like Merab did.

In what sport do you win by simply preventing the opponent from scoring without having to score yourself?