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i watch high level mma boxing and kickboxing boy
High Level MMA boxing is a sport now huh?
Or....could you just mean MMA? The sport you think you know what you're talking about.
i watch high level mma boxing and kickboxing boy
Arrogant analysis. Glover is taking damage from much bigger guys and still finds a way to win, and as far as we know Israel does actually have problems on the ground (nobody since Vettori really tried to take him down). If Israel finds his shot, Glover will crumble. This was basically everyone's analysis before he choked out Thiago, and before he literally beat the teeth out of Smith (who was the favorite to win against Glover).Not really, both were average. Neither had an exceptionally good ground game like you're claiming to say Santos has? Just because Santos is a black belt doesn't mean much. Jones was a white belt and subbed black belt Vitor.
Glover had a good win Saturday, he wins that fight maybe 5/10 times though. He barely won and was in danger. He didn't dominate Thiago, he didn't dominate Anthony Smith and he's past his prime.
If you think he "crushes" Izzy you're an idiot. It's as simple that.
Arrogant analysis. Glover is taking damage from much bigger guys and still finds a way to win, and as far as we know Israel does actually have problems on the ground (nobody since Vettori really tried to take him down). If Israel finds his shot, Glover will crumble. This was basically everyone's analysis before he choked out Thiago, and before he literally beat the teeth out of Smith (who was the favorite to win against Glover).
There is no rose tinted glasses. Vettori is a terrible grappler and Glover won ADCC South America in 2009. If Vettori was able to simply hold him down, Glover will be able to get a submission.Nothing I said discredited Glover, both were great wins but everything I said was correct, he was taking hard shots in both fights before he turnt it around. However the narrative in this thread is that he smashes everyone which is far from the case. Those "bigger guys" Glover is taking damage from are former MW's. Which is exactly what Izzy is, except he's more than a gatekeeper at MW which is exactly what both Santos and Smith were at MW.
Also we don't know if Israel has problems on the ground, he lost one round against Vettori in a fight he still won. People have rose tinted glasses from that fight, Izzy clearly won 2 rounds to 1. The split call wasn't really deserved. It's not been proven he has problems on the ground at all...yet.
no narrative i was just quoting what Glover saidyou can call smith and santos gatekeepers but they did way better than former champs like weidman and rockhold hell the one ko loss yoel romero has was in ligth heavyweigth probably the reason why he decided to drop downNothing I said discredited Glover, both were great wins but everything I said was correct, he was taking hard shots in both fights before he turnt it around. However the narrative in this thread is that he smashes everyone which is far from the case. Those "bigger guys" Glover is taking damage from are former MW's. Which is exactly what Izzy is, except he's more than a gatekeeper at MW which is exactly what both Santos and Smith were at MW.
It may come across as shitting on Glover and I'm really not, but just because Glover beat Santos doesn't mean he'd "crush Izzy".
Also we don't know if Israel has problems on the ground, he lost one round against Vettori in a fight he still won. People have rose tinted glasses from that fight, Izzy clearly won 2 rounds to 1. The split call wasn't really deserved. It's not been proven he has problems on the ground at all...yet.
Gyno-Izzy, is evil Izzy, Izzy with power (st*roid) etcJan will hopefully knock him out cold.
Gyno-Izzy looks like a scary version of Izzy tho.
There is no rose tinted glasses. Vettori is a terrible grappler and Glover won ADCC South America in 2009. If Vettori was able to simply hold him down, Glover will be able to get a submission.
no narrative i was just quoting what Glover saidyou can call smith and santos gatekeepers but they did way better than former champs like weidman and rockhold hell the one ko loss yoel romero has was in ligth heavyweigth probably the reason why he decided to drop down
If a guy looks exposed in one aspect of fighting, and the guy he's theoretically matched up against is known for being outstanding in that aspect, how could you call that MMA math????? Like Weidman loses by KO aplenty, so if people expect him to lose, they'll expect a KO loss.If my car had wheels it'd be a bike. MMA math doesn't work.
You're looking at the fight as the same Adesanya who faced Vettori in his 2nd UFC fight is the same Izzy who is currently champ and that Glover who is out of his prime would crush him.
If you watch any Glover fight, he doesn't use his subs unless he absolutely has to. Most of the time he'll stand with guys.
it has to do with the difference in power lhw pack copared to middle weigths and those were glover exact wordsWhat does Romero's LHW loss to Cavalcante (a legit challenger) have anything to do with this conversation?
Nothing you said was what Glover quoted, unless Glover's quotes made absolutely 0 sense.
Yeah I don't remember every detail from these two 5 round fights, but they couldn't hold him down or make the ground control significant enough to win a round...?to be fair kelvin and yoel took him down on the 1 take down they attepted and Rob and Costa only went in there to Strike
If a guy looks exposed in one aspect of fighting, and the guy he's theoretically matched up against is known for being outstanding in that aspect, how could you call that MMA math????? Like Weidman loses by KO aplenty, so if people expect him to lose, they'll expect a KO loss.
it has to do with the difference in power lhw pack copared to middle weigths and those were glover exact words
you are such a goof bro i'm doneBecause there's a history of Weidman losing by KO, awful example. You're using that same logic to discredit Izzy's ground skills when the only fight they've been tested, he still won the fight.
You're using the logic because Vettori took Izzy down, Glover will do the same. Which isn't the case. There'd be a higher chance of Izzy KO'ing Glover than there ever would Teixeira grapplefucking him.
you are such a goof bro i'm done