"Give an A+ athlete 6 months"

[lagofala]

Didnt aljarmain sterling have his first fight in 3 weeks after training?

I think it is definitely possible if matched up against some ham and egger.

 

[screaminleeman]

LMAO at butthurt MMA fans that are in utter denial of the power of monetary compensation in professional sports.

Freakin' clueless as to how it is possible for MMA to have a huge percentage of THE BEST 125 - 135 pound males professional athletes on the planet, and not have any significant percentage of the LHW & HW male professional athletes competing in MMA.

Let's see, Hmmmm, A Jockey in Horse racing spot "might" be tempting alternative to erning a living in professional sports to a 125 pound MMA fighter.

LHW & HW male athletes have so many options open to them in professional sports it is lame to have this discussion.

99.999999% of the larger male athletes not brain dead are intelligent enough to forgo peanuts in MMA to get a full athletic scholarship from a US college. Literally MMA & even the UFC can't dream of competing with NCAA colleges much less mainstream sports for the services of larger male athletes.

Get that through your freakin' thick skulls butthurt kiddies.

I guess this is another veiled Brock thread. Fine. Just remember that Brock wrestled for the NCAA HW title in 1999 as well as 2000. He got tooled in 1999 by superior wrestler Stephen Neil. Brock won 1 NCAA D1 HW title, and placed 2nd in his Junior year at Minnesota. In comparison he would up taking second like Brock did as a Junior, in his sophomore year. Stephen won not one but TWO NCAA D1 HW titles in 1998 & 1999 out of Cal State Bakersfield. Upon graduation in 1999 and after winning the 1999 HW gold medal in the Freestyle Wrestling World Championships, Stephen Neil was the big talk about where this beast would take his place in MMA greats history.

Well this superb massive NCAA athlete decided to forego the Olympics and elected to earn a living in professional sports! Yeah for MMA.

Not so fast, even though Stephen never played football in College, he took a chance and was drafted in the NFL! WTF? He will be the first to tell you, with his three superbowl rings form his stint with the New England Patriots he made the correct career choice. Brock also tried this exact same rout as the man he admittedly admired and worked with the Minnesota Vikings toward an NFL career. The problem was that Brock's athletic conditioning without the American football experience was not up to the task of securing a spot on an NFL team.

Get over it. Yes superior athletes WOULD own the upper male divisions in MMA. It is delicious watching butthurts grasp at straws attempting to put a timeframe on the domination.

Six months? OK TS, I'll bite! Say it take 11 months? How about splitting hairs and say 13 months? Whatever, you are nitpicking and splitting hairs over the inevitable outcome that would evidently crush you in this butthurt world of denial involving large top athletes tooling the current two largest male WC's in MMA!

 

[whougonnacall]

Exceptional athleticism will allow a person to perform better than those who are less than exceptional. However some people no matter how athletic they may be, just are not fighters. It takes years for fighters to develop fighter like instincts and is not something that can be 'taught' in 6 months.

Theres just so many other factors like ability to take a punch, speed at which u learn the various new skills , fight iq etc

 

[superpunch]

Kevin Randleman was only 5'10. Not what most people talk about when discussing high level athletes.

What people mean is take a 6'5 350 lb NFL guy and train him for 6 months. This is a class of athlete that's both illegal to compete in American MMA and isn't drawn to MMA due to the $$$ anyways. It's a class of athlete that we just don't ever see.

When that happened in the past, that guy defeated GOATs.

This class of athlete would be so dominant that it's NOT EVEN LEGAL for them to compete. They literally made rules against these guys being allowed to compete. Let that sink through your skull.

 

[HHJ]

apparently athletes will always make good fighters somehow. how bout that?

 

[TehGwarch]

well yes, hes very athletic, thats why he can cover distance between himself n the opponent alot quicker than your average mma fighter.

but his athleticism pales in comparison to nba/nfl player.

they are stronger n from explosive than gsp, so their double leg would look even more impressive after few months of training.

I'm sure it would "look" really impressive. lol

The problem is knowing how to set it up, not getting kneed in the face on the way in, knowing what to do with the takedown, etc.

Then he's got to cut to 170 and lose half his strength. lol

He wouldn't look like shit, couldn't do all the gymnastics and martial arts GSP can do either. He's like "um, I run fast and tackle people" but can't kick above my waist. lol

 

[mma_genius]

come on!

jon jones (c level at best) became ufc champ after 3 years.

could you imagine what would someone like lebron do?

he bigger, stronger, faster, quicker... than jones.

its not crazy to suggest it takes him even less time to become ufc champ

Lebron is the perfect examply why being an athlete is not enough.

Lebron is SOFT. He can't take the banging under the rim. Do you really think he could handle getting punched in the face? No way.

 

[HHJ]

im sure a 6 foot 9 guy would have no problem with takedown defense like semmy schilt who miraculously went back to kickboxing.

 

[TehGwarch]

n they are related how exactly?

Get to a Kyokushin dojo and you'll find how much they are related.

 

[trident]

come on!

jon jones (c level at best) became ufc champ after 3 years.

could you imagine what would someone like lebron do?

he bigger, stronger, faster, quicker... than jones.

its not crazy to suggest it takes him even less time to become ufc champ

The fact I find most funny is that these "A level athlete" worshippers always seem to assume these men would somehow naturally have the mindset of a fighter, meaning they would not react like Brock or worse when getting hit to the face etc.

This right here.

People are leaving out the brain. Yes, you can be a great athlete, but if you don't have the brain to do it, your potential is in the junkyard.

What makes Jones unique is his mind. He has a artistic approach to fighting and the very rare ability to realize that, to manifest it. His greatest gift is not his frame or his athleticism, it is where his mind is when he is fighting.

I'd like to see LeBron respond to adversity like Jones did in the A-Gus fight. That doesn't come naturally to most people. Motherfuckers fade.

The only person I would put in this category, and he is not comparable to Jones as a fighter, but Brock was able to come in with little MMA training and compete well.

People give him shit for not being able to take a punch, but I say something different. He took everything Carwin threw at him, he blocked, he stayed alive, and he was on his feet before the round ended.

But even Brock was scared of Reem (not faulting him here, that was a scary match-up). Jones would not have been.

You can't expect other athletes, especially these team sport athletes, to be able to handle the psychological load of walking into a cage alone with another killer.

Even GSP was on the verge of mind cracking before every fight. The pressure is severe and most people can not handle that, perform fluidly, or manifest their talent under it no matter how gifted they are.

 

[UnTrust]

Some idiots believe that athleticism translates to being capable of being the best fighter. Ironically the best athletes in mma are rarely champs. Being able to jump high and run fast does not mean you can take a punch, leg kick, or body shot. The most important parts of fighting just can't be trained! Obvious is obvious.......

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Sherdoggers don't need 6 months, we can get out of bed and KO any UFC fighter stiff. we are underrated to be honest, our knowledge of the game is too much.

 

[kflo]

LMAO at butthurt MMA fans that are in utter denial of the power of monetary compensation in professional sports.

Freakin' clueless as to how it is possible for MMA to have a huge percentage of THE BEST 125 - 135 pound males professional athletes on the planet, and not have any significant percentage of the LHW & HW male professional athletes competing in MMA.

Let's see, Hmmmm, A Jockey in Horse racing spot "might" be tempting alternative to erning a living in professional sports to a 125 pound MMA fighter.

LHW & HW male athletes have so many options open to them in professional sports it is lame to have this discussion.

99.999999% of the larger male athletes not brain dead are intelligent enough to forgo peanuts in MMA to get a full athletic scholarship from a US college. Literally MMA & even the UFC can't dream of competing with NCAA colleges much less mainstream sports for the services of larger male athletes.

Get that through your freakin' thick skulls butthurt kiddies.

I guess this is another veiled Brock thread. Fine. Just remember that Brock wrestled for the NCAA HW title in 1999 as well as 2000. He got tooled in 1999 by superior wrestler Stephen Neil. Brock won 1 NCAA D1 HW title, and placed 2nd in his Junior year at Minnesota. In comparison he would up taking second like Brock did as a Junior, in his sophomore year. Stephen won not one but TWO NCAA D1 HW titles in 1998 & 1999 out of Cal State Bakersfield. Upon graduation in 1999 and after winning the 1999 HW gold medal in the Freestyle Wrestling World Championships, Stephen Neil was the big talk about where this beast would take his place in MMA greats history.

Well this superb massive NCAA athlete decided to forego the Olympics and elected to earn a living in professional sports! Yeah for MMA.

Not so fast, even though Stephen never played football in College, he took a chance and was drafted in the NFL! WTF? He will be the first to tell you, with his three superbowl rings form his stint with the New England Patriots he made the correct career choice. Brock also tried this exact same rout as the man he admittedly admired and worked with the Minnesota Vikings toward an NFL career. The problem was that Brock's athletic conditioning without the American football experience was not up to the task of securing a spot on an NFL team.

Get over it. Yes superior athletes WOULD own the upper male divisions in MMA. It is delicious watching butthurts grasp at straws attempting to put a timeframe on the domination.

Six months? OK TS, I'll bite! Say it take 11 months? How about splitting hairs and say 13 months? Whatever, you are nitpicking and splitting hairs over the inevitable outcome that would evidently crush you in this butthurt world of denial involving large top athletes tooling the current two largest male WC's in MMA!

explain where all the super collegiate football players who are just a little too small for their position in the nfl go? where to the too small collegiate basketball players go? they don't want to make superstar mma money? the only ones i've really seen have had background in combat sports (schuab and mitrione) and even they have had modest success.

of course it's the right career choice to play football. even if being hw champ in boxing pays alot more.

what's butthurt is crying about what you don't have. i don't give a fuck about who chooses NOT to fight. i don't care. let soccer players play soccer. let football players play football. let baseball players play baseball. let fighters fight.

do you have any quote on lesnar's "athletic conditioning" being the reason he didn't make the team and not his lack of actually playing the game?

 

[PureLite]

Sherdoggers don't need 6 months, we can get out of bed and KO any UFC fighter stiff. we are underrated to be honest, our knowledge of the game is too much.

It's kinda sad to be honest. Like I've watched fights with people who aren't noobs when it comes to mma watch a Jake Shield fight earnestly believe that they could KO him in a stand up fight with no training.

And yet shields would look like a k1 striker.

 

[kflo]

again, roy jones was a regular athlete on a fuckin usbl basketball team. put him in a ring with any nba player and they look like level D athletes in comparison. on a basketball court he was level d.

 

[TehGwarch]

Kevin Randleman was only 5'10. Not what most people talk about when discussing high level athletes.

What people mean is take a 6'5 350 lb NFL guy and train him for 6 months. This is a class of athlete that's both illegal to compete in American MMA and isn't drawn to MMA due to the $$$ anyways. It's a class of athlete that we just don't ever see.

When that happened in the past, that guy defeated GOATs.

This class of athlete would be so dominant that it's NOT EVEN LEGAL for them to compete. They literally made rules against these guys being allowed to compete. Let that sink through your skull.

Bob Sapp got his ass kicked in MMA by guys way smaller than him. When he won, he beat up guys half his size. lol

 

[superpunch]

explain where all the super collegiate football players who are just a little too small for their position in the nfl go? where to the too small collegiate basketball players go? they don't want to make superstar mma money? the only ones i've really seen have had background in combat sports (schuab and mitrione) and even they have had modest success.

of course it's the right career choice to play football. even if being hw champ in boxing pays alot more.

what's butthurt is crying about what you don't have. i don't give a fuck about who chooses NOT to fight. i don't care. let soccer players play soccer. let football players play football. let baseball players play baseball. let fighters fight.

do you have any quote on lesnar's "athletic conditioning" being the reason he didn't make the team and not his lack of actually playing the game?

If they're too small for the NFL, they're not the A+ level athletes that we're talking about. Lots of MMA guys are that level. We're not talking about 200 lb guys.

We're talking about the 300 + lb athletic monsters. We rarely, if ever, get to see those guys in MMA.

 

[superpunch]

Bob Sapp got his ass kicked in MMA by guys way smaller than him. lol

He still managed to beat multiple champions and a GOAT multiple times. Could a regular athlete do what Sapp did? No. Could a 350 lb guy that couldn't even make it in the NFL do what Sapp did? Yes. And everything that he accomplished was 100% due to superior athleticism and size (an aspect of athleticism).

Imagine an A+ 350 lb guy from the NFL trying what Sapp did. He'd do even better.

 

[superpunch]

It's kinda sad to be honest. Like I've watched fights with people who aren't noobs when it comes to mma watch a Jake Shield fight earnestly believe that they could KO him in a stand up fight with no training.

And yet shields would look like a k1 striker.

Jake Shields is really bad striking. Something in his brain just makes him retarded at it. I actually think that lots of beer guzzling joes at the bar could actually KO him. For once, they're drunk retarded trash talk is right.

 

[TehGwarch]

He still managed to beat multiple champions and a GOAT multiple times. Could a regular athlete do what Sapp did? No. Could a 350 lb guy that couldn't even make it in the NFL do what Sapp did? Yes. And everything that he accomplished was 100% due to superior athleticism and size (an aspect of athleticism).

Imagine an A+ 350 lb guy from the NFL trying what Sapp did. He'd do even better.

Better than basically being a punchline in MMA? Maybe. lol

He'd have to cut to 265 for starters, there goes the "athleticism". Probably can't touch his toes. lol