"Give an A+ athlete 6 months"

[Prime Ang]

Forrest Griffin trained with the Detroit pistons and said he could make any of them HW champ within 6 months. Case closed


EXPOSED

 

[empsim]

Fighting is the one sport where having a super high vertical, a blazing 40, and crazy explosion doesn't 100% dictate a fight.

its actually the opposite...

a world class football player might become a top 20 fighter after 6-12 months of training. he would stand no chance in basketball, tennis, soccer and everything else though

 

[El General]

Hadn't played in 11 years, last at bat was HS, hit .220 against top lvl players, that's all lol

AAA isnt top level, thats why its AAA lol .220 at that level is terrible

 

[Guile]

n they are related how exactly?

Read the thread. How aren't they? They both had backgrounds coming into MMA. Can't just give any high level athlete a few months and expect them to excel at MMA with no background at all.

 

[robjenkins2]

Never heard of them

Of course not. They are A level athletes.

 

[Prime Ang]

AAA isnt top level, thats why its AAA lol .220 at that level is terrible

You know nothing about baseball, good nught

 

[robjenkins2]

Hadn't played in 11 years, last at bat was HS, hit .220 against top lvl players, that's all lol

Minor leaguers aren't top level players.

 

[El General]

You know nothing about baseball, good nught

Awww being wrong hurt your pussy, its alright go get some rest. Good "nught"

 

[blaseblah]

its somewhat true at HW

its hard to prove/disprove because other than brock, there are no other A+ athletes in MMA

Mariusz Pudzianowski
Marcus Jones
Michael Westbrook
Johnnie Morton
Daniel Cormier
Mark Schultz

 

[robjenkins2]

Travis Browne beat up an A level athlete after he had been training for 5 years already.

 

[Davemeddlehed]

Are you retarded by any chance? Jones was also a Top 5 recruit coming out of high school in the national rankings, he was a Greco All-American, and Folk style State Champion/ Recruited by IOWA state.

He didn't come off the couch.

Obviously you know very little about the sport you're "a fan of" Jones was a HIGH level wrestler and was a College National Champ. All he had to do was learn to strike considering no one would match his grappling pedigree

Jones went to Iowa State COMMUNITY College. They aren't the same thing.

Maybe you shouldn't be asking people if they're retarded when you can't even read.

 

[whougonnacall]

well yes, hes very athletic, thats why he can cover distance between himself n the opponent alot quicker than your average mma fighter.

but his athleticism pales in comparison to nba/nfl player.

they are stronger n from explosive than gsp, so their double leg would look even more impressive after few months of training.

Their cardio and muscle endurance is like an ailing elderly person though though....nfl isnt a level atheletic on a global level sorry ..if the adverage gym rat has 10x ur cardio ur not an a level athlete period.

Not to memtion picking up one sport doesnt mean ul be automaticaly good at another ..look at jordan and basketball

 

[blaseblah]

its actually the opposite...

a world class football player might become a top 20 fighter after 6-12 months of training. he would stand no chance in basketball, tennis, soccer and everything else though

Different physiques needed for different sports. MMA on the other hand has weight classes.

 

[Davemeddlehed]

Brock was a wrestler since he was a kid until he started wwe and yet he could not really strike or take a punch after training mma for years.

That's not something you can learn.

 

[grimballer]

He specifically said that his wrestling success is due in large part due to his timing from Karate.

playing football/basketball also give you timing...

but that aside, he still has to grab a hold of a guy (whos train to resist n knows whats coming) n take him down with decent nuff technique (has nothing to do karate).

his ability to cover the distance is what sets him apart, n most nba/nfl players would be even better at covering that distance , cause they are more explosive.

 

[robjenkins2]

Jones went to Iowa State COMMUNITY College. They aren't the same thing.

Maybe you shouldn't be asking people if they're retarded when you can't even read.

He had a full ride to Iowa State after becoming the national JUCO champ, he chose to go into mma to make money because his girl was pregnant.

 

[Hard To Tell]

Being a top level, natural athlete and/or top level in other sports doesn't necessarily translate to being a good fighter. There are lot of intangibles at play like chin, heart, toughness etc.

BUT

MMA fans needs to get some perspective on the level of the sport. It is still way, way, way behind things like footlball, basketball, athletics, tennis and soccor in terms of numbers and talent level. Basically, these sports have much better athletes and many, many more of them.

So if guys like Travis Brown and Brian Schaud can do well pretty quickly, despite being nothing special athletic wise and having no prior combat sport experience before taking up the sport in their mid 20's, then of course guys from other sports, who are ten times the athletes they will ever be, can at least do the same, but probably better.

Plus you've got to take MMA fans with a pinch of salt. Up until recently if you polled on here 'who would win in a fight between Ronda Rousey and Floyd Mayweather?' At least 50% of sherdoggers would pick Rousey, which shows just how little these people understand fighting and athleticism

 

[grimballer]

Clearly a pussy mentality trying to win by flopping. There is no proof at all that an NBA player would be good at fighting.

Would he have a better chin than Mark Hunt? Better cardio than the Diaz brothers? More heart than Frankie? It's fucking fighting, we already see that the biggest and most explosive guys currently in the sport don't always win or aren't necessarily champion material. Of course Lebron is a good athlete, but it's relative to what he does and has trained for. Messi in football isn't that athletic either, still the greatest player ever. Lebron could never do what he does and vice versa.

combo of speed, acceleration, change of direction, balance is unmatched

 

[empsim]

Different physiques needed for different sports. MMA on the other hand has weight classes.

soccer player, tennis player, basketball can have a similar physique. they would still never get good at the other sports. it takes much longer to learn other sports than learning fighting.

if you dont start playing tennis or soccer at like 6 years old you'll never be world class.

 

[Mr Wings]

Lol I've been seeing this forever now. Are people trolling when they say this or do they really believe it.

What the fuck can you learn in 6 months that'll teach you how to beat a guy who has been doing this for years? Fighting is the one sport where having a super high vertical, a blazing 40, and crazy explosion doesn't 100% dictate a fight.

I was a former college wrestler and trust me. It's going to take longer than 6 months to learn takedowns, it's not just a single leg/double leg...and it's not just "hurr durr sprawl when they shoot"...hearing this really dawns to me how little a lot of you know about the intricate nature of grappling/striking.

6 months may teach you some basic stuff, but when you're getting hooks thrown in and your back taken...human nature takes over and people do things that they shouldn't do. It takes years of training to break the habit of these quirks.

Kevin Randleman was an A+ athlete and one of the best college wrestlers in his era not to mention the potential "supps" he may have taken in his hey day. And his record is nothing spectacular (RIP). That should show you that this sport has evolved much further from the time where a super athlete could come in and dominate.

Oh and don't mention Brock Lesnar as an example, considering he was the #1 Heavyweight wrestler at Minnesota in his NCAA days

I agree with your point, but wrestlers are different than football/baseball/tennis players. Wrestling is a combat sport, or at least closely related, and as a result, wrestlers have found success in MMA.

But yes, I agree, take some high level NFL guys, train them for 6 months, and throw them in the Octogan and I think they'd still be fucked.