"Give an A+ athlete 6 months"

[grimballer]

Just like Michael Jordan was great at baseball..... Some of the responses here are sad.

how does ability to jump high/run fast help in hitting a baseball again?

baseball is all about hand/eye coordination

 

[Sir Punchalot]

Soccer players in MMA... Now that would fun. "Oh no, his fist graced my forearm, I have to lie down and scream with my hands covering my face now."

 

[Mr Wings]

how does ability to jump high/run fast help in hitting a baseball again?

baseball is all about hand/eye coordination

So wait, there's no hand eye coordination in basketball and no running in baseball?

 

[Mr Wings]

Forrest Griffin trained with the Detroit pistons and said he could make any of them HW champ within 6 months. Case closed
EXPOSED

If he said it, it has to be true.

 

[The-AxeMurderer]

Jon Jones with 6 months training could be an elite wide receiver in the NFL.

See, sounds stupid doesn't it?

Lets not down play MMA and give these guys the respect they deserve.

 

[Guernica]

Brock is built Ford Tough. He'll be the champ by September.

 

[grimballer]

So wait, there's no hand eye coordination in basketball and no running in baseball?

the difference is in basketball you can have the best skills in the world, if you dont have the athleticism to go with it, you wont make it (unless youre a 7 footer). in baseball you dont need athleticism that much, just ability to make contact with the ball (big papi).

i mean whats next? is being good at pool or darts athleticism as well?

 

[irollnaked]

Harder, but trouble is you've trained your whole life for something different.

Some of you fools need to get into a gym and train BJJ and kickboxing. Get a feel for the shit you shovel.

There's a lot of really athletic guys that can't handle 6 months as a white belt.

Just like Ray Mercer training something totally different his whole life yet still knicking out a former UFC HW champ. No 6 month bjj trainig needed.

 

[GSPenn1991]

Give lebron 6 months and he will still be destroyed by the top 20 heavy weights

 

[Vergilius]

Lol I've been seeing this forever now. Are people trolling when they say this or do they really believe it.

What the fuck can you learn in 6 months that'll teach you how to beat a guy who has been doing this for years? Fighting is the one sport where having a super high vertical, a blazing 40, and crazy explosion doesn't 100% dictate a fight.

I was a former college wrestler and trust me. It's going to take longer than 6 months to learn takedowns, it's not just a single leg/double leg...and it's not just "hurr durr sprawl when they shoot"...hearing this really dawns to me how little a lot of you know about the intricate nature of grappling/striking.

6 months may teach you some basic stuff, but when you're getting hooks thrown in and your back taken...human nature takes over and people do things that they shouldn't do. It takes years of training to break the habit of these quirks.

Kevin Randleman was an A+ athlete and one of the best college wrestlers in his era not to mention the potential "supps" he may have taken in his hey day. And his record is nothing spectacular (RIP). That should show you that this sport has evolved much further from the time where a super athlete could come in and dominate.

Oh and don't mention Brock Lesnar as an example, considering he was the #1 Heavyweight wrestler at Minnesota in his NCAA days

What's more is that striking is probably even more difficult to master than tdd and a decent ground defense. 6 months allows you to be just an orange belt in most martial arts, though of course you could progress further if you train every day. While some orange or green belts can have good basic skills and superior athletic ability, there is still a lot of stuff you just can't do well at that point (of course there may be once in a lifetime exceptions, but they ARE once in a lifetime).

 

[Vergilius]

its kinda ironic you asking others if theyre retarded.

jones settled for wrestling cause he wasnt good nuff to pursue a nfl career like his brothers. besides even he himself said his brothers routinely kick his ass.

also jones is outwrestling olypmic level wrestlers n subing bjj blaclbelts.

now i dont care how "talented n recruited" he was outta junior college, if what youre saying is true, he shouldnt be able to dominated high caliber opponents the way he does in such a short time.

his size + athletic ability compensated alot for his lack of pure technical skills.

now again if we consider lebron whos on another level when it comes to athleticism n his size, its easy to see why he would dominated in short time

Chandler Jones is 60 pounds heavier than Jon and that's the only reason he would ever stand a chance at this point.

 

[barehanded]

Athleticism helps, but the best athletes in MMA are not necessarily the best fighters. In every weight division you can find guys fighting on regional circuit that are looking more athletic than top 10 fighters in the UFC.

 

[Vergilius]

the difference is in basketball you can have the best skills in the world, if you dont have the athleticism to go with it, you wont make it (unless youre a 7 footer). in baseball you dont need athleticism that much, just ability to make contact with the ball (big papi).

i mean whats next? is being good at pool or darts athleticism as well?

Plenty of really good basketball players aren't super athletes. Paul George isn't anything as athletic as Russell Westbrook, but he is a top 10 player because of his drive, skillset and decision making.

 

[Roljo]

Could work in the heavyweight because you only really need to connect with one solid punch first and it's night night. Just look at how the heavyweight belt changes hands. In other divisions skill has too much of a part for this to be possible

 

[Ramon Antonio]

combo of speed, acceleration, change of direction, balance is unmatched

What point are you trying to make? That Messi could make it in MMA? :-D Or that Lebron James could do what Messi does on a football field? I'm confused.

Messi isn't very athletic compared to his peers, he's not the strongest, doesn't jump the highest, isn't the fastest of them all etc. He's extremely technically gifted, briliant handling, insight in the game, knows how to read a defense etc. He was actually told that physically he was too small to make it in football. It's because of his extreme talent that he made it anyway. He had to take HGH to become 1.70, how the fuck is he naturally athletic? I don't even think he would have made it in any other major sport than football either.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

how does ability to jump high/run fast help in hitting a baseball again?

baseball is all about hand/eye coordination

Well the A+ athlete crowd is making the point that any A+ athlete from NBA or Football could easily cross over into MMA and easily be the champ there. I'm not saying NO top athlete from any physical sport wouldn't stand a chance with proper training, but not with just 6 months. We have top wrestlers, top kickboxers, top BJJ guys, top sambo guys etc. in MMA. It takes extreme amount of dedication, toughness and training to reach those levels, and also, athletic ability as well.

Reminds me of that time Roger Huerta KO'd a NFL player twice his size within 5 seconds.

 

[AndroidRage]

playing football/basketball also give you timing...

but that aside, he still has to grab a hold of a guy (whos train to resist n knows whats coming) n take him down with decent nuff technique (has nothing to do karate).

his ability to cover the distance is what sets him apart, n most nba/nfl players would be even better at covering that distance , cause they are more explosive.

Damn, between that and growing up in the meanstreets it sounds like a lot of these guys could easily be pro boxers and make even more than they do now. Wonder why they don't?

Some elite soccer player should train 6 months and whoop money mayweather.

This stupid shit is so insulting to fighters in any combat sport that it should be considered fighter bashing.

 

[Saitama91]

The fact I find most funny is that these "A level athlete" worshippers always seem to assume these men would somehow naturally have the mindset of a fighter, meaning they would not react like Brock or worse when getting hit to the face etc.

Exactly this!

Because you can't turn someone like this

into this

 

[NationWideNinja]

Loads of examples of fighters that are superior athletes within their division and still get whooped because they lack other intangibles such as heart, timing, feeling for boxing/wrestling/bjj, chin and whatnot. Chad Mendes, Uriah Hall, Matt Mitrione, Brendan Schaub, Melvin Guillard, Brock, Tyrone Woodley, etc etc.

Being very good in one sport does not mean that you could do well in other sports. Just because basketball players are big and fast doesnt mean they'll be MMA champs, it takes a lot more than that.

 

[Emang8]

Exceptional athleticism will allow a person to perform better than those who are less than exceptional. However some people no matter how athletic they may be, just are not fighters. It takes years for fighters to develop fighter like instincts and is not something that can be 'taught' in 6 months.