"Give an A+ athlete 6 months"

[120wrestling]

Lol I've been seeing this forever now. Are people trolling when they say this or do they really believe it.

What the fuck can you learn in 6 months that'll teach you how to beat a guy who has been doing this for years? Fighting is the one sport where having a super high vertical, a blazing 40, and crazy explosion doesn't 100% dictate a fight.

I was a former college wrestler and trust me. It's going to take longer than 6 months to learn takedowns, it's not just a single leg/double leg...and it's not just "hurr durr sprawl when they shoot"...hearing this really dawns to me how little a lot of you know about the intricate nature of grappling/striking.

6 months may teach you some basic stuff, but when you're getting hooks thrown in and your back taken...human nature takes over and people do things that they shouldn't do. It takes years of training to break the habit of these quirks.

Kevin Randleman was an A+ athlete and one of the best college wrestlers in his era not to mention the potential "supps" he may have taken in his hey day. And his record is nothing spectacular (RIP). That should show you that this sport has evolved much further from the time where a super athlete could come in and dominate.

Oh and don't mention Brock Lesnar as an example, considering he was the #1 Heavyweight wrestler at Minnesota in his NCAA days

 

[joeyjoejoe]

6 months of training and you'll be ready to get your ass beat lol.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

It's Brock. Country strong.

 

[Mixedfights]

Yeah right bro.

 

[Sauce Castillo]

Bismack Biyombo or James Johnson could be heavyweight champs with legit 3 months of training at a high level gym.

 

[Mondo Freaks]

Steph Curry BW champ with 6 weeks training

 

[BRASIL WAND]

Bismack Biyombo or James Johnson could be heavyweight champs with legit 3 months of training at a high level gym.

Lol I laughed. Nice one m8

 

[Noah]

7 months.

 

[surgeyou1]

Lol I laughed. Nice one m8

James Johnson probably could. Legit martial arts background.

Johnson comes from a clan of warriors. His parents are black belts. He has eight siblings, and they are also all black belts of varying degrees. His youngest sister, about 10 years his junior, is working toward her third degree. He’s a second-degree black belt himself. His first MMA bout came at the age of 18. Johnson was declared the winner after 97 seconds. He’s fought a total of seven MMA matches and is undefeated. He’s 20-0 in all his kickboxing matches.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/they-call-him-bloodsport-james-johnson-kicks-his-way-into-the-nba/

 

[ThePatriot]

its somewhat true at HW

its hard to prove/disprove because other than brock, there are no other A+ athletes in MMA

 

[grimballer]

come on!

jon jones (c level at best) became ufc champ after 3 years.

could you imagine what would someone like lebron do?

he bigger, stronger, faster, quicker... than jones.

its not crazy to suggest it takes him even less time to become ufc champ

 

[Winbot]

either they're trolling or they've never grappled.

 

[120wrestling]

come on!

jon jones (c level at best) became ufc champ after 3 years.

could you imagine what would someone like lebron do?

he bigger, stronger, faster, quicker... than jones.

its not crazy to suggest it takes him even less time to become ufc champ

Are you retarded by any chance? Jones was also a Top 5 recruit coming out of high school in the national rankings, he was a Greco All-American, and Folk style State Champion/ Recruited by IOWA state.

He didn't come off the couch.

Obviously you know very little about the sport you're "a fan of" Jones was a HIGH level wrestler and was a College National Champ. All he had to do was learn to strike considering no one would match his grappling pedigree

 

[Melas Chasma]

The fact I find most funny is that these "A level athlete" worshippers always seem to assume these men would somehow naturally have the mindset of a fighter, meaning they would not react like Brock or worse when getting hit to the face etc.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Bismack Biyombo or James Johnson could be heavyweight champs with legit 3 months of training at a high level gym.

Does that mean toronto finally gets a championship?

Last time it happened i was 2 years old.


edit: CFL doesn't count.

 

[BRASIL WAND]

James Johnson probably could. Legit martial arts background.



http://grantland.com/the-triangle/they-call-him-bloodsport-james-johnson-kicks-his-way-into-the-nba/

I remember reading this a while back.

Those were amateur matches... i.e a legit 6'10 athlete fighting Bubba out the backwoods and Tuna Can from back alley.


Some don't quite appreciate what it actually takes to be a UFC champion...

I guarantee its far more than some vert and a cute Karate Kid black belt lol.

 

[essie]

Bismack Biyombo or James Johnson could be heavyweight champs with legit 3 months of training at a high level gym.

 

[tdluxon]

Lol I've been seeing this forever now. Are people trolling when they say this or do they really believe it.

What the fuck can you learn in 6 months that'll teach you how to beat a guy who has been doing this for years? Fighting is the one sport where having a super high vertical, a blazing 40, and crazy explosion doesn't 100% dictate a fight.

I was a former college wrestler and trust me. It's going to take longer than 6 months to learn takedowns, it's not just a single leg/double leg...and it's not just "hurr durr sprawl when they shoot"...hearing this really dawns to me how little a lot of you know about the intricate nature of grappling/striking.

6 months may teach you some basic stuff, but when you're getting hooks thrown in and your back taken...human nature takes over and people do things that they shouldn't do. It takes years of training to break the habit of these quirks.

Kevin Randleman was an A+ athlete and one of the best college wrestlers in his era not to mention the potential "supps" he may have taken in his hey day. And his record is nothing spectacular (RIP). That should show you that this sport has evolved much further from the time where a super athlete could come in and dominate.

Oh and don't mention Brock Lesnar as an example, considering he was the #1 Heavyweight wrestler at Minnesota in his NCAA days

That may have been true early on but not anymore. The level of athleticism and skill is way up

 

[surgeyou1]

I remember reading this a while back.

Those were amateur matches... i.e a legit 6'10 athlete fighting Bubba out the backwoods and Tuna Can from back alley.


Some don't quite appreciate what it actually takes to be a UFC champion...

I guarantee its far more than some vert and a cute Karate Kid black belt lol.

Stipe Miocic is a failed college baseball player and he's considered one of the best athletes at HW. I really don't think it would take much for a monster like JJ Watt or Von Miller to come over and clean up.

 

[grimballer]

Are you retarded by any chance? Jones was also a Top 5 recruit coming out of high school in the national rankings, he was a Greco All-American, and Folk style State Champion/ Recruited by IOWA state.

He didn't come off the couch.

Obviously you know very little about the sport you're "a fan of" Jones was a HIGH level wrestler and was a College National Champ. All he had to do was learn to strike considering no one would match his grappling pedigree

its kinda ironic you asking others if theyre retarded.

jones settled for wrestling cause he wasnt good nuff to pursue a nfl career like his brothers. besides even he himself said his brothers routinely kick his ass.

also jones is outwrestling olypmic level wrestlers n subing bjj blaclbelts.

now i dont care how "talented n recruited" he was outta junior college, if what youre saying is true, he shouldnt be able to dominated high caliber opponents the way he does in such a short time.

his size + athletic ability compensated alot for his lack of pure technical skills.

now again if we consider lebron whos on another level when it comes to athleticism n his size, its easy to see why he would dominated in short time