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"Give an A+ athlete 6 months"

So all the great athletes are going into boxing since the highest paid athlete on the planet is a boxer?
Well tou have to employ some common sense being a top level athlete.

Generally at a highschool level a top athlete will determine which sport has the highest probability of financial success coupled with educational benefits etc.

Its hardly that simple
 
Not too sure what you're talking about... I'm not saying anything about an A-level Athlete fighting someone with the same skill? Because in 6 months an A-level athlete will not have the same fighting ability as someone who has been a professional fighter for say 10-15 years.
Umm Jon Jones.
8 months and B level maybe C
 
Who the fuck defines a level athlete?
If u took 10-20 of the finest in nba,nfl, premier league football etc and trained them up for a few months the vast majority would still be hilariously outmatched
People seem to forget all the hand eye and reflex b.s they spew is built up for their particular sport over a lifetime ....just because u can after a lifetime throw a perfect spiral or curve the ball almost 90 degrees off a corner kick doesnt mean ul pick up boxing etc well
Plus all would have to retune their s+c and rebuild their bodies over months to suit the new sport



Idiots talking about a level athletes dont get it.....if the ufc and other non boxing fighting arts paid more then more would take it up early and widen the talent pool yes
But the idea that guys who have already devoted their lives to perfecting a non combat sport could wander in and now and dominate is simply stupid .
You're not allowed to spread truth and common sense on Sherdog brah;)
 
Stipe Miocic is a failed college baseball player and he's considered one of the best athletes at HW. I really don't think it would take much for a monster like JJ Watt or Von Miller to come over and clean up.


It's apples to oranges, my friend. Stipe has the right type of athleticism for fighting. JJ and Von are fantastic football athletes but I've never seen anything from them to indicate they have the cardio or coordination to hang on the feet with lifelong kickboxers or grapple... at all. They're great football players and they have the right type of athleticism to excel at that sport, but they're not complete enough athletes to reach the ELITE level of HW fighters, IMO.

They might clean up after a couple years training at a good camp in a lesser organization or as a UFC prelim fighter if only because the division is so shallow, but just like we've seen with other excellent athletes that come into MMA, if they don't come from a combat sports background they inevitably lose to the better combat athlete.

Before you bring up the whole failed football/basketball/baseball player argument again, let's get it clear that the difference between an undrafted NFL LB and a HOF LB is close to negligible in terms of physical athleticism. The main difference lies in having an understanding of the game and a feel for how it flows. If you compare the 40 yard dash times of a 4 year starter for Purdue to his opposite in the NFL you really won't see much of a difference... in most cases. Being good at the sport is more important than being an all around 5-star athlete; just ask Larry Bird.
 
Athleticism is a formula and better athletes perform better than non athletes, that is a simple fact.

Athlete w training superior to non-athlete with training.

This is a simple irrefutable fact thats even understood at a middle school level regarding sports.

again, you didn't address the example i gave.

and who is a non-athlete?
 
Actually the 2 nfl washouts (one never even stepped on the feild) were at a time top 10 fighters.

Mitrione started mma in his 30s

So imagine would A levels would do starting Jones age or earlier.

the only thing separating many of your so called a list athletes on the nfl field and so called not a list athletes is size. not athleticism. tons of failed high level collegiate football and basketball players. why aren't they flocking to mma and dominating to make that conor money? or boxing to make that floyd money. should be easy for them.
 
the only thing separating many of your so called a list athletes on the nfl field and so called not a list athletes is size. not athleticism. tons of failed high level collegiate football and basketball players. why aren't they flocking to mma and dominating to make that conor money? or boxing to make that floyd money. should be easy for them.
No A level is hardly a matter of just size. HW is a unique paradigm.

Conor is one athlete in the entire sport who makes exceptional money and thats not based on his skill. Those are shitty odds to pursue in a sport where the average income is in the thousands
 
do you think he reacts the way someone with no training would react?

Worse. He doesn't turn and try to get the fuck out of there when he's been hit with a big shot that rocks him. He just shells up and eats more shots until he goes down.
 
No A level is hardly a matter of just size. HW is a unique paradigm.

Conor is one athlete in the entire sport who makes exceptional money and thats not based on his skill. Those are shitty odds to pursue in a sport where the average income is in the thousands

wouldn't the odds be almost certain for a top athlete? c'mon, stay with your logic.
 
Worse. He doesn't turn and try to get the fuck out of there when he's been hit with a big shot that rocks him. He just shells up and eats more shots until he goes down.

have you ever sparred?
 
And look at these high earning "A-Level Athletes" . . .

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. . . such athleticism!!!

I guess you didn't see the punch that Manny Machado (Baltimore Orioles) through last night.

Machida is wishing he had that kind of hand speed and power.

Machado > Machida all day long! Oh, and lead off hitters aren't suppose to be the powerful guys in the batting order.
 
A bigger, stronger, more co-ordinate and athletic person will ALWAYS beat someone with comparable skill and less athleticism.
This is just a fact.

Actually no, and just about every NFL and NBA coach will tell you so. A bigger, stronger, more co-ordinated and athletic person will sometimes lose to someone with comparable skill, less athleticism, but who performs better under pressure, or is more motivated, or is just mentally stronger.

As Yogi Berra said, "Ninety percent of baseball is half mental". You're discounting the mental aspect, and you don't have to listen to many high level coaches in big money sports to realize how important the mental aspect is. Its why underdogs sometimes come up with the big win despite being out attributed by the favorites (in both athleticism and skills come to think of it).

Different sports require different kinds of mental toughness. Pain tolerance for instance isn't as much of an issue in say baseball as it is boxing. Concentration on a single event under huge pressure (like a curve ball coming at you in the 9th inning in a close World Series game) isn't as much an issue in boxing as it is baseball.

So all the great athletes are going into boxing since the highest paid athlete on the planet is a boxer?

Actually probably golf, since that seems to give the highest career earnings (golfers last a lot longer than boxers, and there are more of them earning huge amounts of money). If its about money, the way to go is definitely golf. And look at all the superstars in other sports (Jordan, Gretzky etc) who play golf all the time now and joke about how bad they are at it - obviously golf takes huge athleticism.
 
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It's all about the chin. Doesn't matter how strong or athletic you are if you can't take a shot.
 
wouldn't the odds be almost certain for a top athlete? c'mon, stay with your logic.
No.
You didn't understand what I typed nor do you understand odds or probability

Connor is an outlier in mma he is one single person whos financial success is based on his ability to talk not his skill. Again I stress the word one person in a sport where the average income is in the thousands

Those are abysmal odds if a high level athlete or any rational minded person is pursuing financial success or stability
 
Herschel Walker takes the belt from Stipe in 2 months if he wanted. Now. At his current age.
 
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