"Give an A+ athlete 6 months"

[bdreason]

But why assume NFL players have glass jaws, or afraid of getting hit? My guess is you average NFL linemen can take a punch at least as well as Stipe or Reem

I'm not assuming anything. I'm just saying that just because you're big and athletic, doesn't mean you're tough. Look at Brock Lesnar. The guy is a physical specimen, and the first time I saw him really get hit in the Octagon he panicked and lost composure. Taking a hit is a talent. And I'm not just talking about having a strong chin. I'm talking about the ability to stay composed when you're physical well-being is threatened.

 

[lecter]

It's true for women's MMA

 

[robjenkins2]

But he DID go to a D3 school where there is no scholarship money. It's a fact that Jon Jones transferred to Morrisville State before he dropped out of college. He never once attended Iowa State, he attended Iowa State Community College.

So why did he choose that school over a D1 powerhouse wrestling school when they wanted him? Why did he say multiple times that he was going to attend Iowa State University?

 

[Davemeddlehed]

So why did he choose that school over a D1 powerhouse wrestling school when they wanted him? Why did he say multiple times that he was going to attend Iowa State University?

Who knows why he did what he did? All we know for sure is what he actually did, which was attend a community college, and then transfer to a D3 state school.

 

[Podcast]

Learn BJJ in 6 months, okay, lol.

 

[$uicideboy$]

i could beat lower(top15-20)level ufc guys with 6 months training

 

[robjenkins2]

Who knows why he did what he did? All we know for sure is what he actually did, which was attend a community college, and then transfer to a D3 state school.

So how long was he there?

 

[Davemeddlehed]

So how long was he there?

What difference does it make how long he was there? What matters here in this discussion we're having is how long he was at Iowa State University on a free ride scholarship, which is no time at all.

 

[MadHouse]

come on!

jon jones (c level at best) became ufc champ after 3 years.

could you imagine what would someone like lebron do?

he bigger, stronger, faster, quicker... than jones.

its not crazy to suggest it takes him even less time to become ufc champ

Jones is a horrible example to use the guy is a master at utilizing his reach and long stature, extremely high fight IQ, extremely creative in his striking and grappling game all of which you can't teach someone in a short period of time or hell even teach at all i mean there are guys training for years yet don't have those traits

 

[bubby]

What difference does it make how long he was there? What matters here in this discussion we're having is how long he was at Iowa State University on a free ride scholarship, which is no time at all.

Because he got a girl preggers.

 

[Aluminati]

That's not something you can learn.

Yes, it is. After wrestling and judo in high school, I picked up boxing during my early twenties. I learned how to take a punch, and keep my defense up while the ringing subsides somewhere in my mid-twenties. I wasn't the greatest at setting up and mixing shots, but I picked up counter-punching pretty quickly. Nowhere near at an elite level, but enough not to get embarrassed on my feet against gym rats and amateurs.

 

[Davemeddlehed]

Yes, it is. After wrestling and judo in high school, I picked up boxing during my early twenties. I learned how to take a punch, and keep my defense up while the ringing subsides somewhere in my mid-twenties. I wasn't the greatest at setting up and mixing shots, but I picked up counter-punching pretty quickly. Nowhere near at an elite level, but enough not to get embarrassed on my feet against gym rats and amateurs.

There's a mentality behind taking a punch. I don't mean rolling with a punch, I mean how you react once you've been nailed with a hard shot. You can't teach that to someone, they either have it or they don't to react well to being rocked/hurt by a good shot.

 

[robjenkins2]

What difference does it make how long he was there? What matters here in this discussion we're having is how long he was at Iowa State University on a free ride scholarship, which is no time at all.

I was just curious asking a question. I know that Iowa and Iowa State both wanted Jones out of high school but he didn't have the grades to qualify. You're trying to make it sound like he wasn't a high level d1 athlete which is not true.

 

[hasar]

come on!

jon jones (c level at best) became ufc champ after 3 years.

could you imagine what would someone like lebron do?

he bigger, stronger, faster, quicker... than jones.

its not crazy to suggest it takes him even less time to become ufc champ

LeBron would flop after every jab.

 

[Aluminati]

There's a mentality behind taking a punch. I don't mean rolling with a punch, I mean how you react once you've been nailed with a hard shot. You can't teach that to someone, they either have it or they don't to react well to being rocked/hurt by a good shot.

I get it. Some people are like Wandy, who just wings hooks or shoots a double, and some people just turtle.

 

[nstig8]

Deandre Jordan would be UFC HW Champion with no training. Just needs to cut junk food for 2 weeks.

 

[Davemeddlehed]

I get it. Some people are like Wandy, who just wings hooks or shoots a double, and some people just turtle.

Bingo. You have Chris Lebens, and Brock Lesnars. That can't be trained, or taught, it's just in someone or it's not.

 

[AnotherOldGuy]

Two A+ athletes (superstars Jim Brown of NFL and Wilt Chamberlain of the NBA) were tempted to try the theory that an A+ athlete could become the boxing heavyweight champ with just a few months training - both wanted to fight Muhammed Ali. On investigation both decided it was extremely unlikely they had any chance at all, and so dropped the idea (in Brown's case after meeting Ali in a park for a test, putting on gloves, and spending a couple of minutes swinging and missing at Ali, who threw no punches in return).

Fans of A+ athletes are more optimistic about how easy it is to learn how to fight than the athletes themselves.

BTW, both or kind of interesting stories, lot's of stuff about Ali's come up since his death.

 

[mjoln]

Bingo. You have Chris Lebens, and Brock Lesnars. That can't be trained, or taught, it's just in someone or it's not.

It is not that simple. Its very complex thing how we react to pain and pressure and that is why peoples in military / combat sports etc train with those two things. People change, sometimes willingly, sometimes unwillingly. There is no one real Leben or Brock, those dudes change as life change around them.

 

[FootstompShonie]

Yeah dude A-level athletes would dominate.

That's why 6'6'' and 250 pound college All-American, first round draft pick, and 6-year NFL starter Marcus Jones dominated MMA after training for a couple years.

LOL just kidding he got KTFO in like 2 minutes by this guy: