Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

Blayt7hh said:
I’m still kind of stunned that nvidia designed it like that and didn’t make adaptors for it. I think that’s really telling that they know the hall is in their court
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I know. Im kind of surprised too that the issue was known since november and the newer shipments of graphic cards never came out with the alternative adapters. Not everyone is going to have tower cases exceeding 12" in width
 
Lol a website was excited to point out that the 4070 ti at list price. It seems things are not great in the 4070ti market.
 
Putting together my new pc and realized Noctua never game me my damn LGA 1700 backplate, had to unscrew everything and take out the back vent case fan because the case's little window behind the cpu wasn't wide enough to just put the backplate there when the mb is already in place. It was the next to the last thing to do too.
Got the EVGA Dark Kingpin z690 board since they are heavily discounted (due to moving to the z790 boards), highly rated power efficiency/delivery and overclocking so check it out if you need a top motherboard for a solid price ($399 on EVGA's website, I paid $499 during Black Friday deals and it was already heavily discounted then). Only two ram slots but DDR5 64 GB max and you're not really going to need more for gaming. Got the Corsair ax1600 power supply on sale back in late November as well (upgrading from the ax1500, power efficiency and delivery is what I'm going for here despite the power hungry Intel chip, have to sell the 1500 now).
 
PC CPU Shipments See Steepest Decline in 30 Years
These may even be the worst declines in x86 CPU history.
Tom's Hardware said:
It is no secret that the PC business and tech industry at large is going through a bit of a rough patch. However, a new report penned by Dean McCarron of Mercury Research paints an incredibly bleak picture of the state of things. Probably the biggest bombshell is that figures show the x86 processor market has just endured “the largest on-quarter and on-year declines in our 30-year history.” Based on previously published third-party data, McCarron is also reasonably sure that the 2022 Q4 and full-year numbers represent the worst downturn in PC processor history.

The x86 processor downturn observed has been precipitated by the terrible twosome of lower demand and an inventory correction. This menacing pincer movement has resulted in 2022 unit shipments of 374 million processors (excluding ARM), a figure 21% lower than in 2021. Revenues were $65 billion, down 19 percent YoY. McCarron shines a glimmer of light in the wake of this gloom, reminding us that overall processor revenue was still higher in 2022 than any year before the 2020s began.
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My takeaway is that everyone who didn't have a desktop or laptop when COVID hit bought one. A lot of people got into gaming who had never tried it. They don't need a new one every year. Hell, you don't even need a new gaming PC every 4-5 years. And for general/office purposes the hardware is good enough to last a decade, now, or until the PC stops functioning. That's how good hardware has gotten. That's not a bad thing.

For some reason morons buy a new smartphone every year despite that even ARM hardware hasn't justified that for years. I don't see reason to be gloomy because that stupidity isn't contagious to the PC market. Servers, in particular, are more relevant than they have ever been, and this truth will only intensify in the years to come.
 
Madmick said:
PC CPU Shipments See Steepest Decline in 30 Years
These may even be the worst declines in x86 CPU history.

My takeaway is that everyone who didn't have a desktop or laptop when COVID hit bought one. A lot of people got into gaming who had never tried it. They don't need a new one every year. Hell, you don't even need a new gaming PC every 4-5 years. And for general/office purposes the hardware is good enough to last a decade, now, or until the PC stops functioning. That's how good hardware has gotten. That's not a bad thing. For someone reason morons buy a new smartphone every year even though ARM hardware hasn't justified that for years. I don't see reason to be gloomy because that stupidity isn't contagious to the PC market. Servers, in particular, are more relevant than they have ever been, and the truth will only intensify in the years to come.
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Agreed. It's also just too damn expensive for a lot of people to justify the cost, especially during the cost of living crisis that at least Australia is experiencing. The current most popular GPU on the Steam Hardware Survey is a 1650 Super, while 65% of the population are still running 1080p.
 
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Madmick said:
PC CPU Shipments See Steepest Decline in 30 Years
These may even be the worst declines in x86 CPU history.

My takeaway is that everyone who didn't have a desktop or laptop when COVID hit bought one. A lot of people got into gaming who had never tried it. They don't need a new one every year. Hell, you don't even need a new gaming PC every 4-5 years. And for general/office purposes the hardware is good enough to last a decade, now, or until the PC stops functioning. That's how good hardware has gotten. That's not a bad thing.

For some reason morons buy a new smartphone every year despite that even ARM hardware hasn't justified that for years. I don't see reason to be gloomy because that stupidity isn't contagious to the PC market. Servers, in particular, are more relevant than they have ever been, and the truth will only intensify in the years to come.
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Based on easing of COVID restrictions and not seeing a significant improvement in performance in the real world people are asking why do I need to spend 2500 dollars to get the latest and greatest PC when I am already getting pretty much all I need. People are finding other reasons to spend their money on vacations and family parties. I think to lack of an real innovation such as you point out about the cellphone. I could see augmented reality and wide field of view VR and AR could help boost sales.
 
avenue94 said:
Looks like Best Buy is clearing inventory for 4070 and 4060.

This half of the issue, the overarching issue is people have never upgraded their computers annually or every other year. The Covid boom was never sustainable.
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best buy is definately not doing that in canada lol

cheapest 3080 you can get from them is the tuf 3080 $1599. thats 300 bucks more than a 4070ti lol. on top of that theyre all sold out on best buy, and youll have to buy off of one of their third party sellers who have obviously hiked the prices up.

you can also get a founders 3090ti for $2599, or an aftermarket 3090ti for $2999.

nowinstock.net shows all the 3080's out of stock across the board. same with the 3090ti's except for the $2599 founders at best buy.

that 10 gb 3080 for $429 USD is an alright deal though. maybe i guess. not an incredible steal or anything but its not like youre getting completely fleeced. but they are already sold out.
 
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avenue94 said:
Yeah, not sure if Best Buy Canada has the same deal as US BBY (exclusive dealer for FE cards)
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i wouldnt think so, considering they have the the FE 3090ti up for $2599 where you can get a 4090 for a few hundred bucks cheaper elsewhere

hmmmn what a pickle. if i'm spending over 2 grand on a graphics card, do i go for the flagship card of the last generation thats priced 3 times more than what its worth, or do i save myself a few hundred bucks and go for the flagship card of the current gen that completely trounces it, and every other card on the entire market? what a dilemma! what ever shall i do? well hey, if i'm already spending $2599 and tax for a founders 3090ti, i may as well pony up the extra $300 on an aftermarket right? lol

i'm not sure what their strategy is here. do they just want these cards to sit on shelves forever? do they think people might be stupid enough to buy them at those prices? or are the best buy workers just stupid?
 
idrankyourbeer said:
i'm not sure what their strategy is here. do they just want these cards to sit on shelves forever? do they think people might be stupid enough to buy them at those prices? or are the best buy workers just stupid?
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If they are still priced high, it likely means they have sold through most of their stock of 30 series, or haven't gotten enough new 40 series stock. That would be my read.
 
My old PC was having issues running Warhammer3. The new one is running like a dream

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Ok, seeing is the first vendor I tried to buy a PC from I think bullshitted me I tried a second vendor who has accepted my order, though it's apparently waiting for some parts, so I feel like their ship times on their website is a bit of a lie. But hopefully everything will pan out sooner than later. I'm actually not in a rush so no major drama lol.
 
Edifier R1280DB Active Bookshelf Speakers at Gamestop for $88.18. If you have the room for them, or if you wall mount them, they'll blow any pc speakers out of the water. They'll blow away any soundbar in the same price range as well.
 
jefferz said:
Intel 670p 2tb 3.0x4 NVME for $100 on Amazon, sold by Micro Center.
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It's showing $130 for me.
Best Buy has the 970 Evo Plus 2 TB refurbished for $130. I got the 1 TB version from them last year and haven't had any problems (only 17gb had ever been used).
 
My Spot said:
It's showing $130 for me.
Best Buy has the 970 Evo Plus 2 TB refurbished for $130. I got the 1 TB version from them last year and haven't had any problems (only 17gb had ever been used).
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I posted the seller for the $100 price was Micro Center, you're quoting the price from Giz-Promo. Are you new to Amazon? Do you not know how to check other sellers?

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It will then list other sellers like Micro Center
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